CDZ Putin has lost all credibility since announcing his reasons for invading Ukraine.

[beautress]

He's only lost credibility with you.

Well, hundreds have protested in Russia. That used to be a crime in Russia, but now the people are more open to their neighbor countries, and Putin goofed. Not only that but the Russian killing of 15 orphans in the orphanage they bombed really went over poorly to the Russians, who generally value their own children, and many there grew up in orphanages or by relatives after WWII. Killing babies who have never done anything but depend on the kindness of others is not real high on the tolerability list of a lot of European countries.

 

[peacefan]

Very interesting, so you were a supporter of Putin and Xi. And the only reason you aren't now is you don't like the dynamics of their relationship. Very interesting.

no, that's not the only reason. i also have my suspicions about their expansion plans for their communist/socialist + muslim-fundamentalist alliance of countries.
that Orwellian side of their plans in particular has me worried.

 

[peacefan]

How?

January 6th aftermath.

 

[justoffal]

no, that's not the only reason. i also have my suspicions about their expansion plans for their communist/socialist + muslim-fundamentalist alliance of countries.
that Orwellian side of their plans in particular has me worried.

Russia, China North Korea and Iran.... Are definitely going after the dollar system.

 

[beautress]

no, that's not the only reason. i also have my suspicions about their expansion plans for their communist/socialist + muslim-fundamentalist alliance of countries.
that Orwellian side of their plans in particular has me worried.

I hope we can somehow work it out. I'll put it on my prayer list. God made all people, and he loves his creation. We have to work things out so that mouths are fed so as to rid one basic cause of global confrontations. With so many tigers by the tail, I'm sure world leaders would like to put the worst ones in a cage somewhere.

 

[beautress]

Russia, China North Korea and Iran.... Are definitely going after the dollar system.

Well, they do have their share of pals in this country, but we should all be friends not only with foreigners, but with each other. Giving warmongers uranium and billions of gallons of oil beneath the Aleutian Islands does not help the world situation, it only gives ambitious bullies an open gate on war.

 

[App'z]

Yep $20 on total bull shit !

MSN

www.msn.com

 

[App'z]

Quote : I hope we can somehow work it out. I'll put it on my prayer list. God made all people, and he loves his creation. We have to work things out so that mouths are fed so as to rid one basic cause of global confrontations. With so many tigers by the tail, I'm sure world leaders would like to put the worst ones in a cage somewhere.
Maybe a Crazy person actually believe that !

Russia is shooting because they believe they have the guns, and intend to actually over time subdue all of Western Europe. How F/n Crazy ya got to get ! Russia believes it has the Gas STation to make it happen !

So far around 10,000 Russians are jailed for responding in lines protesting with signs and chants against the war. More to come later at 7:00 AM news.

 

[App'z]

Opinion | The Republicans who'd rather own the libs than help Biden fight Putin

Who cares about the global threat Russia poses when you can mock Biden and own the libs?

www.nbcnews.com

 

[sartre play]

When people support dictators We know something really wrong is going on.

 

[peacefan]

Kremlin accuses the West of ‘excessive emotion’

According to Moscow, EU and NATO member states are failing to understand “very many obvious things” The Kremlin is hopeful that Western nations will reconsider their perception of Russia in the future, it has said, as the US and a number of its allies in Europe continue to impose severe and wide-ranging sanctions on Moscow in response to its military attack on Ukraine. Speaking to reporters on Saturday, Press Secretary Dmitry Peskov set out his view on the prospect of Russia’s relations with the West improving. “We hope that, sooner or later, our position will be understood by EU countries and NATO member states,” he said. According to Peskov, these nations “take an excessively emotional approach and refuse to understand very many obvious things.” Read more Leading experts warned NATO expansion would lead to conflict. Why did no one listen? Commenting on whether Moscow was effectively being shut out by the West, Peskov said that, while “there is the abandonment of relations, the winding-down of economic ties, the introduction of various sanctions by a number of states, such as European countries, the US, Canada, Japan, and others, this does not mean Russia’s isolation.” “In the world, as you know, there are many other countries [then these] that have a much more balanced, sometimes more reasonable attitude to the dynamics of international relations. We prefer not to talk about isolation and are clear that we should not discuss it,” he said. His remarks come after a number of governments announced sanctions against Moscow and several of its officials in the wake of the invasion of Ukraine. Earlier this week, the EU revealed plans to exclude seven Russian banks from the SWIFT global payment system. US President Joe Biden hit Russia with a new wave of embargoes last Thursday, insisting the offensive was a “premeditated attack.” According to Biden, Russian President Vladimir Putin is “the aggressor [who] chose this war, and now he and his country will bear the consequences.” Russia’s incursion into its neighbor came after the leaders of the recently recognized Donetsk and Lugansk People’s Republics appealed for assistance to counter what they claimed was a spike in aggression from Kiev. According to the Kremlin, the invasion was aimed at crippling Ukraine’s military and ridding the country of so-called “Nazi” elements.

Local : 2022-03-05(Saturday) 13:46:25
Found via nicer.app/news

so i ask of Moscow : where's your evidence of nazi infiltration of the Ukranian government??

 

[peacefan]

Putin's destruction of Ukraine is driven by religious fervor -- not lunacy: columnist

In a column for the Daily Beast, former Wall Street Journal Moscow correspondent A. Craig Copetas said that although there have been some suggestions that Vladimir Putin is suffering some type of mental illness, his invasion of Ukraine is also part and parcel of a religious belief among Russians that dominating the region is part of God's plan. Admitting that historians may never know to what extent Putin has spiraled into mental illness, Copetas claims there is enough known about Putin from his acolytes to explain his sudden desire to invade Ukraine. According to the journalist, former U.S. National Security Council director Fiona Hill nailed it when she said of Putin that he is "...increasingly operating emotionally. It’s reestablishing dominance over what Russia sees as the Russian Imperium. We’re treading back through old historical patterns that we said that we would never permit to happen again.” Writing, "The Imperial Kremlin has two masters, one temporal, the other spiritual. The tsar and the Russian Patriarch of All Moscow and All Rus. The tsar and his hierophant-in-chief worked and lived and ruled in tandem. 'There’s no difference between the secular realm and the spiritual realm,' explains the Byzantine and Russian historian Henry Hopwood-Phillips. 'The tsar and the patriarch are meant to occupy the same body and the same mystical mind. That’s the anvil of Russia’s domestic Byzantine statecraft,'" Copetas contributed, "And Putin’s hammer is wielded by God." READ: 'Putin's nightmare' as Russian soldiers revolt and security forces 'overwhelmed' at home According to Russian Orthodox bishop Patriarch Kirill, a supporter of Putin's invasion, "Let God save the Russian soil. When I say Russian, I use an ancient expression from the chronicles of where Russian soil started, which includes the Ukraine and Belarus. God forbid that the evil forces that have always fought against the unity of Russia and the Russian church get the upper hand in brotherly Ukraine.” Copetas added, "Kirill’s frequent pronouncements in support of Putin’s destruction of Ukraine are not gibberish and, for more Russians than many in the West might want to believe, it’s not lunacy." Writing Putin is "desperately trying to recapture a romanticized heyday," the columnist quoted Russian historian Hopwood-Phillips, who added, "Putin looks to be suffering deep melancholy,” reckons Hopwood-Phillips. “His consciousness is still floating in the 17th century, and 44 million Ukrainians are paying the price.” You can read more here.

Local : 2022-03-04(Friday) 15:06:50
Found via nicer.app/news

and i challenge Moscow : prove that you're not engaging in a misinformation campaign, prove that you're not on a violent quest to bring back the USSR under a new name..

 

[peacefan]

and... Moscow... why do you deliberately target random civilians and civilian infrastructure? doesn't that kinda violate your mission statement?

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

That would be a violation of the treaty. Those are not member states.

Lithuania, Latvia and Estonia ARE NATO members. Ukraine is not.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

Biden aint corrupt. Trump was. Anyone blind to that is really really blind.

Biden isn't corrupt? How did he get to be a multi-millionaire on his Senate/VP salary and his wife's junior college professor's paycheck?

The answer is Hunter Biden's corruption and bribes, paid by Russian oligarchs, a corrupt Ukrainian gas company. and the Communist Party of China, There are probably more.

 

[skews13]

Putin says he invaded Ukraine to protect Russians there from 'genocide' coming from Kyiv.
I've never heard more ridiculous nonsense.

Putin wants the Russian empire (USSR) back, and he's willing to shed the blood of the free and even the innocent to achieve that.

I hope NATO will provide logistical and combat support to the Ukrainians and Latvians, Estonians and Lithuanians. They're gonna need it.

Putin and Xi will never enjoy my support again.
Because Xi sees Putin as a useful idiot, and Putin is letting him.

Yep. Putin is better at Nazi propaganda, than the Nazis ever were. He is almost Fox News material.

 

[Admiral Rockwell Tory]

of course. and that might have been Russia upping the ante after the west stationed nuclear cruise missiles in western Europe.

but the fact it is, stationing nukes that close to the US clearly was a step too far, and it led to the cold war 1.

now, i'd really like NOT to see a cold war 2.

i'd like to see Putin struck down like the mad dog that he has become.

fast-track the baltic states and Ukraine for NATO membership.
support them with covert ops and logistical support.

The Baltic states ARE NATO members! When are you going to catch a clue?

 

[toobfreak]

Biden aint corrupt. Trump was. Anyone blind to that is really really blind.

Well, you just shot the pooch with that line of BS. Trump the businessman who had never been questioned in his life was suddenly corrupt running for office (never mind the whole Russia claim has now been totally disproved a rabid lie), but Biden with his family fingers in world governments for years his son actually on the Ukraine board (and China), yep---- nothing to see there!

 

[saveliberty]

The OP suggests Putin had credibility at some point in the past. Feel free to establish that point. In his case, once a thug, always a thug.

 

[saveliberty]

And that Canadian pipeline is blocked, due to Joe (CDZ) actions against US citizens. If we were still a net exporter than Russia wouldnt have the funds to go into Ukraine, but since most Joe(CDZ) voters have very low intelligence the World War is coming quick.

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As to your Binet Scale IQ chart, I'm at 144. That and a post on USMB makes me equal to most others. I didn't know what I was getting with Trump. Just knew Hillary was a poorer choice. I suspect Biden voters had the same reasoning. No one likes to admit they made a bad decision and Biden clearly was a terrible one.