Putin Awards Hero Of Russia To Soldier In Knife Fight

[Zavulon]

Hilarious, seeing as Russia has its own Nazis fighting for them.

Neo-Nazism in Russia - Wikipedia

Neo-Nazism in Russia​

If Russia is Serious about De-Nazification, it Should Start at Home

With its claims of ‘denazification’ of Ukraine, Russia has successfully directed international media attention towards far-right trends in Ukraine. However, while the presence of far-right actors in Ukraine should not be ignored, reporting on these actors has distracted from the prominence of...

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"If Russia is Serious about De-Nazification, it Should Start at Home"

But it's not serious about it, is it?

It depends, as often, on the definitions we use. For Russians, "Nazies" means mostly "anti-Russian". They don't consider foreign anti-muslim, anti-jewish or anti-LGBT political groups as "nazies" if they are not anti-Russian.
Russian "classic", in the western understanding, Nazies, with their motto "Germans are good comrades and friends, damned Jewish Commissars are lying to you" either were arrested or joined Ukrainian side, because any sane person see, that Germans are not "good camrades and friends" of Russians, vice versa, they are murdering (directly and inderectly) Russian people. And ideology of European superiority is obviously wrong and stupid.

Ideology of Russian superiority... Actually, we don't consider it as "ideology" at all. Its more about "common sense" and "common knowledge".

 

[Kruska]

Those poor Ukrainians have suffered terribly from Putin's terrorism.

Hopefully Trump will not abandon these people but I doubt it.

Who cares about Trump's blah, blah??

Whilst he babbles about US global hegemony needs to be ensured via Greenland, and Canada as well as retaking the Panama canal - you really believe, that Ukraine - which is even more vital to US global hegemony, the US Senate and Congress will allow Trump to simply hand it over to Russia??

If at all - it's a US/NATO charade designed to rearm/train/and equip the UDF, for the next stage of this war. Aka to proceed with NATO's Eastward expansion.

 

[frigidweirdo]

It depends, as often, on the definitions we use. For Russians, "Nazies" means mostly "anti-Russian". They don't consider foreign anti-muslim, anti-jewish or anti-LGBT political groups as "nazies" if they are not anti-Russian.
Russian "classic", in the western understanding, Nazies, with their motto "Germans are good comrades and friends, damned Jewish Commissars are lying to you" either were arrested or joined Ukrainian side, because any sane person see, that Germans are not "good camrades and friends" of Russians, vice versa, they are murdering (directly and inderectly) Russian people. And ideology of European superiority is obviously wrong and stupid.

Ideology of Russian superiority... Actually, we don't consider it as "ideology" at all. Its more about "common sense" and "common knowledge".

As far as I can tell "Nazi" is like "Commie" for Americans. It's a buzz word that people use without understanding.

Easily to manipulate simple people.

 

[Zavulon]

As far as I can tell "Nazi" is like "Commie" for Americans. It's a buzz word that people use without understanding.

Easily to manipulate simple people.

Its simple, but it fits. There is no practical difference between different types of Western threats like Germans (who invaded Russia in XX century), Frenches (who invaded Russia in XIX century), Swedens (who invaded Russia in XVIII century), Poles (who invaded Russia in XVII century), Lithuanians (who invaded Russia in XVI century), or NATO, who is invading Russia now. They are all more or less the same. They want to kill us and take our land. Thats why we should kill them and take their land.

 

[Deadstick]

And again, the formation of neo-Nazis only entered service AFTER the annexation of the Crimea.

The Nazis were on a rampage in Donbass from the start what Porochenko called an anti terror operation when in fact it was a attack on the civilians in Donbass.

And again, the formation of neo-Nazis only entered service AFTER the annexation of the Crimea.

This was Poroschenko in 2014 threatening the Children and Pensioners of Donbass as his so called anti terror operation started and resulted in years of Cities like Donetsk being shelled with thousands of civilians dead, then the people of Donbass got armed and organised and gave the Ukrainian fascists a bloody good beating at Donetsk airport and Debeltsave.

 

[odanny]

Who cares about Trump's blah, blah??

Whilst he babbles about US global hegemony needs to be ensured via Greenland, and Canada as well as retaking the Panama canal - you really believe, that Ukraine - which is even more vital to US global hegemony, the US Senate and Congress will allow Trump to simply hand it over to Russia??

If at all - it's a US/NATO charade designed to rearm/train/and equip the UDF, for the next stage of this war. Aka to proceed with NATO's Eastward expansion.

I don't remember Ukraine signing up to join NATO, although after this violent aggression and occupation by a despotic neighbor I can certainly understand why they would want to.

 

[Kruska]

I don't remember Ukraine signing up to join NATO, although after this violent aggression and occupation by a despotic neighbor I can certainly understand why they would want to.

After it was attacked by Russia in 2014, both Ukraine & NATO had increasingly prepared onto a NATO membership for Ukraine.

Ukraine joined NATO's Partnership for Peace in 1994 and the NATO-Ukraine Commission in 1997, then agreed the NATO-Ukraine Action Plan in 2002 and entered into NATO's Intensified Dialogue program in 2005.

The Ukraine-Russian relationship can be viewed upon as having failed in 1993 and thus subsequently continued to deteriorate - when despite the CIS Belovezha Accords of 1991 - the Ukrainian government declared that integration to the EU was the main foreign policy objective in 1993, and Ukraine joined NATO's Partnership for Peace in 1994.

Russia and later Putin had tried to establish and support a pro-Russian governmnet (trying to reenact the CIS) - which failed again in 2013 - therefore Putin decide to occupy Crimea in 2014, (to also safeguard Russia's vital Naval base) and due to Ukraine proceeding towards NATO membership, whilst a pro NATO /EU and anti-Russian President was elected - decided again to strike in Feb. 2022.

IMO, most likely to depose of Zelenski and to install a Moscow puppet (again trying to reenact a CIS) - and not in view of occupying and integrating Ukraine into Russia.

 

[Deadstick]

I don't remember Ukraine signing up to join NATO, although after this violent aggression and occupation by a despotic neighbor I can certainly understand why they would want to.

Well i can, they were making noises about joining Nato back in 2008.

 

[Litwin]

Every single day ISIS with snow proves itself to be a terrorist state filled with the terrorists.

 

[Deadstick]

Another Massacre by retreating Ukrainian fascists and their Mercenary friends, i would have been tempted to shoot any Foreign trash on the spot.
‘Black Tuesday’ - How The AFU Strewn The Town With Corpses

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Hilarious, seeing as Russia has its own Nazis fighting for them.

And so does the USA.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

Another Massacre by retreating Ukrainian fascists and their Mercenary friends, i would have been tempted to shoot any Foreign trash on the spot.
‘Black Tuesday’ - How The AFU Strewn The Town With Corpses

To all:

It's probably not a great idea to click on the links this guy posts.

If you know, you know.

 

[frigidweirdo]

Its simple, but it fits. There is no practical difference between different types of Western threats like Germans (who invaded Russia in XX century), Frenches (who invaded Russia in XIX century), Swedens (who invaded Russia in XVIII century), Poles (who invaded Russia in XVII century), Lithuanians (who invaded Russia in XVI century), or NATO, who is invading Russia now. They are all more or less the same. They want to kill us and take our land. Thats why we should kill them and take their land.

Thing is, the west could have invaded Russia in the 1990s, but didn't. Could have justified an invasion 3 years ago, but didn't.

You can't make an argument that Russia invading the Ukraine was actually NATO invading Russia. It makes no sense.

 

[frigidweirdo]

And so does the USA.

Sure it does. The point here is to show that Russia is full of shit when it claims to be fighting Nazism.

 

[Zavulon]

Thing is, the west could have invaded Russia in the 1990s, but didn't. Could have justified an invasion 3 years ago, but didn't.

They tried, with Chechen terrorists, but thanks to Putin and 911 - they failed.

You can't make an argument that Russia invading the Ukraine was actually NATO invading Russia. It makes no sense.

Of course it make sense. Ukraine is a part of Russia, as Canada or California are parts of America. America didn't tolerate pro-Russian or pro-Chinese governments even in Nicaragua. There is no chances that the USA can tolerate pro-Chinese government (and Russian medium range missiles) in Canada.
In Ukraine NATO countries just hired some local militants to murder local Russians. It is an attack against Russian people and, hence, it is an attack against Russia. "You attack one of us - you attack all of us."

 

[Deadstick]

They tried, with Chechen terrorists, but thanks to Putin and 911 - they failed.

Of course it make sense. Ukraine is a part of Russia, as Canada or California are parts of America. America didn't tolerate pro-Russian or pro-Chinese governments even in Nicaragua. There is no chances that the USA can tolerate pro-Chinese government (and Russian medium range missiles) in Canada.
In Ukraine NATO countries just hired some local militants to murder local Russians. It is an attack against Russian people and, hence, it is an attack against Russia. "You attack one of us - you attack all of us."

They don't want to admit they are wrong so they double down on their nonsense, of course the US wouldn't tolerate pro Chinese or Russian Governments on their border, they didn't even tolerate Cuban construction workers building an airport in Grenada so they invaded it like they were storming the Beach on Iwo Jima.

 

[frigidweirdo]

They tried, with Chechen terrorists, but thanks to Putin and 911 - they failed.

Of course it make sense. Ukraine is a part of Russia, as Canada or California are parts of America. America didn't tolerate pro-Russian or pro-Chinese governments even in Nicaragua. There is no chances that the USA can tolerate pro-Chinese government (and Russian medium range missiles) in Canada.
In Ukraine NATO countries just hired some local militants to murder local Russians. It is an attack against Russian people and, hence, it is an attack against Russia. "You attack one of us - you attack all of us."

Did the US supply the Chechens?

Doubtful, most of the arms they were using was ex-Soviet. Also, Chechnya wasn't really on the US radar. Russia wasn't a threat in the 1990s, the Soviet Union had collapsed and the US went around doing whatever it wanted.

Unless of course you have evidence to back you other, other than Putin (known liar) saying this happened, without any evidence.

Ukrainians in the Ukraine are Ukrainian, not Russia. Oh wait, HILTER used the same excuse as Putin in 1938 and 1939.... well, that's a great leader to be compared with.

 

[Deadstick]

Did the US supply the Chechens?

Doubtful, most of the arms they were using was ex-Soviet. Also, Chechnya wasn't really on the US radar. Russia wasn't a threat in the 1990s, the Soviet Union had collapsed and the US went around doing whatever it wanted.

Unless of course you have evidence to back you other, other than Putin (known liar) saying this happened, without any evidence.

Ukrainians in the Ukraine are Ukrainian, not Russia. Oh wait, HILTER used the same excuse as Putin in 1938 and 1939.... well, that's a great leader to be compared with.

Don't you remember when the US and the west called the Chechen terrorists rebels? even after they blew up a Schools in Beslan and on another occasion attacked a Maternity hospital, then the UK gave refuge to a wanted Islamist terrorists who lived in London, another case was when the terrorists beheaded three foreign Telecom workers, also weapons and terrorists were entering Chechnya through the Pankisi gorge in Georgia.

 

[Zavulon]

Did the US supply the Chechens?

Yes. Mostly indirectly, through the UK and Turkey.

Doubtful, most of the arms they were using was ex-Soviet.

Its not about arms only. Its more about money.

Also, Chechnya wasn't really on the US radar. Russia wasn't a threat in the 1990s, the Soviet Union had collapsed and the US went around doing whatever it wanted.

And then the USA wanted to create an "arch of Islamic instability" from Indonesia to Kosovo.

Ukrainians in the Ukraine are Ukrainian, not Russia.

Of course, no. Russian are Russians, even if they live in Ukraine, Kazakhstan or the USA. It's ethnicity, not citizenship.

Oh wait, HILTER used the same excuse as Putin in 1938 and 1939.... well, that's a great leader to be compared with.

And the USA used the same excuse during American-Mexican war. Say nothing about Ancient Greeks, who used the same logic after Persian suppression of rebellion in Greek cities (part of Persian Empire).

"We are under attack" is one of the oldest signals, causing immediate "flee or fight" reaction. There is no more place to "flee", therefore most of us choose "fight" reaction.

 

[Zavulon]

They don't want to admit they are wrong so they double down on their nonsense, of course the US wouldn't tolerate pro Chinese or Russian Governments on their border, they didn't even tolerate Cuban construction workers building an airport in Grenada so they invaded it like they were storming the Beach on Iwo Jima.

Yes. So, why the Russians should tolerate anti-Russian regimes on our borders?