Public schools teaching kids that Mohamad is god messenger

[Lovebears65]

WTF. How much uproar on the left about separating church and state when it comes to Christianity but they are going to teach this to our children. [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tLf_ao8DXhE&feature=youtu.be]American children being indoctrinated with biased and false positive information about Islam - YouTube[/ame]

 

[bodecea]

WTF. How much uproar on the left about separating church and state when it comes to Christianity but they are going to teach this to our children. American children being indoctrinated with biased and false positive information about Islam - YouTube

And they are being taught that Jesus was the son of god.....both bogus.

 

[Steven_R]

Depends on how it is presented. If it's a discussion of world religions and what each believes (e.g. introducing kids to comparative religions), then it's no different then telling kids about Greek or Norse mythology. If it's an endorsement (e.g. hey kids, there is only one God and Muhammed is His messenger) then it's a no go.

 

[RightDown]

Depends on how it is presented. If it's a discussion of world religions and what each believes (e.g. introducing kids to comparative religions), then it's no different then telling kids about Greek or Norse mythology. If it's an endorsement (e.g. hey kids, there is only one God and Muhammed is His messenger) then it's a no go.

Beautifully stated.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

WTF. How much uproar on the left about separating church and state when it comes to Christianity but they are going to teach this to our children. American children being indoctrinated with biased and false positive information about Islam - YouTube

And they are being taught that Jesus was the son of god.....both bogus.

That being said...which would you rather have taught to your chil..er..uh......Americas children?
And dont say neither,because thats apparently not an option.

 

[Jackson]

Depends on how it is presented. If it's a discussion of world religions and what each believes (e.g. introducing kids to comparative religions), then it's no different then telling kids about Greek or Norse mythology. If it's an endorsement (e.g. hey kids, there is only one God and Muhammed is His messenger) then it's a no go.

Steven, I agree with you. If there is going to be a unit on the worlds largest religions, I would estimate there would be about two or three pages on each of the 7 most practiced religions and that would be it.

But in this case, Christianity is not mentioned whereas the Islamic faith has 36 pages. I would indeed have a problem with that.

Replace that book immediately.

 

[Steven_R]

It's a history book. It is perfectly acceptable to discuss what the Greeks and Romans believed when they were the center of the world, to describe the rise of Christianity, the period when Islam was the center of learning, the Reformation, the Enlightenment, and all of those subjects require at least some discussion about the major religious beliefs at the time.

It's not wrong to discuss the period of Muslim dominance and say "by the way, here are some of the major Muslim beliefs: Mohammed, Jihad, Jizya, etc..." any more than it is wrong to frame the Reformation by describing the various schools of thought in the Christian Church at the time.

 

[bodecea]

Depends on how it is presented. If it's a discussion of world religions and what each believes (e.g. introducing kids to comparative religions), then it's no different then telling kids about Greek or Norse mythology. If it's an endorsement (e.g. hey kids, there is only one God and Muhammed is His messenger) then it's a no go.

Unfortunately....some people think that just the mentioning of Mohammed and/or islam is an endorsement.

 

[bodecea]

36 pages.....Chapter 10.....on a AP History book....WOW!
This faux outrage cracks me up.....but of course, it's Hannity.

 

[Wry Catcher]

FTI

The Big Religion Comparison Chart: Compare World Religions - ReligionFacts

 

[bodecea]

Ok, just looked up the textbook table of contents:


http://assets.pearsonschool.com/asset_mgr/current/201132/WH 2011 survey TOC_35280.pdf

the Hannity report was a total lie.....look at all the content.

Once again, the OP doesn't do her homework and goes off half cocked based on simply falling for some RW bullshit.

 

[Coyote]

Given that this is a Hannity bit, it's not surprising that there is a bit of distortion to the claim.

First off - the class is not a religion class, and the textbook is not a religious textbook. It's World History.

Given that Islam was influential in world history, particularly the ancient world, resulting in multiple Islamic nations and empires such as the Ottoman Empire, it's not surprising that there is more than just a page or two devoted to it. Discussing what they believed is certainly relevant to understanding the history of the period.

Consider this - if you removed all references to Christianity when you studied American history how could you hope to understand the forces that shaped our country - freedom of religion (due to the many sects seeking freedom from religious persecution) and why we place such a high value on religous freedom. Consequently Islam has very little role to play in American history and a discussion of Islam would be a footnote at best.

In addition, Hannity leaves out half the story - the half that balances out this so-called outrage. Here's what the textbook company has to say: Pearson | Always Learning

In Florida, as in other states, Pearson creates custom course materials that align to the state’s specific curriculum standards. Florida’s standards split the world history curriculum into two years of study, in grades 6 and 10. The state’s standards require the sixth grade curriculum start with early civilizations and continue through to the fall of Rome (476 A.D.). In the 10th grade, the state’s high school curriculum begins with the Byzantines (330 A.D.), proceeds to the Early Middle Ages in Europe (500 A.D.) and continues to the present day.

The Florida edition of the Pearson high school World History text aligns to the state’s standards, which require that the high school course includes content on the origins of Islam, while the middle school text details the earlier origins of Judaism and Christianity. The Florida Department of Education approved the Pearson World History programs for adoption and validated that the content in our programs meets the requirements and educational goals of the state.

Now why did Hannity leave out any mention of the Middle School text?

 

[bodecea]

Given that this is a Hannity bit, it's not surprising that there is a bit of distortion to the claim.

First off - the class is not a religion class, and the textbook is not a religious textbook. It's World History.

Given that Islam was influential in world history, particularly the ancient world, resulting in multiple Islamic nations and empires such as the Ottoman Empire, it's not surprising that there is more than just a page or two devoted to it. Discussing what they believed is certainly relevant to understanding the history of the period.

Consider this - if you removed all references to Christianity when you studied American history how could you hope to understand the forces that shaped our country - freedom of religion (due to the many sects seeking freedom from religious persecution) and why we place such a high value on religous freedom. Consequently Islam has very little role to play in American history and a discussion of Islam would be a footnote at best.

In addition, Hannity leaves out half the story - the half that balances out this so-called outrage. Here's what the textbook company has to say: Pearson | Always Learning

In Florida, as in other states, Pearson creates custom course materials that align to the state’s specific curriculum standards. Florida’s standards split the world history curriculum into two years of study, in grades 6 and 10. The state’s standards require the sixth grade curriculum start with early civilizations and continue through to the fall of Rome (476 A.D.). In the 10th grade, the state’s high school curriculum begins with the Byzantines (330 A.D.), proceeds to the Early Middle Ages in Europe (500 A.D.) and continues to the present day.

The Florida edition of the Pearson high school World History text aligns to the state’s standards, which require that the high school course includes content on the origins of Islam, while the middle school text details the earlier origins of Judaism and Christianity. The Florida Department of Education approved the Pearson World History programs for adoption and validated that the content in our programs meets the requirements and educational goals of the state.

Now why did Hannity leave out any mention of the Middle School text?

I linked the textbook table of contents.....Christianity isn't left out at all. It was all a lie. Guess the kinds of people that fall for it.....

 

[ClosedCaption]

Ok, just looked up the textbook table of contents:


http://assets.pearsonschool.com/asset_mgr/current/201132/WH 2011 survey TOC_35280.pdf

the Hannity report was a total lie.....look at all the content.

Once again, the OP doesn't do her homework and goes off half cocked based on simply falling for some RW bullshit.

I can hear her now going "But Hannity said..."

 

[g5000]

At 43 seconds, the fat guy holds up a copy of the book.

Here is the TOC of that book: http://assets.pearsonschool.com/asset_mgr/current/201132/WH 2011 survey TOC_35280.pdf

Hannity plainly says, "By the way, keep in mind it has zero chapters on Christianity or Judaism".

He lies.

Look at Chapter 5: Chapter 5 Ancient Rome and the Rise of Christianity

 

[g5000]

Anyone who watches Fox News deserves to be lied to.

 

[Coyote]

Depends on how it is presented. If it's a discussion of world religions and what each believes (e.g. introducing kids to comparative religions), then it's no different then telling kids about Greek or Norse mythology. If it's an endorsement (e.g. hey kids, there is only one God and Muhammed is His messenger) then it's a no go.

Unfortunately....some people think that just the mentioning of Mohammed and/or islam is an endorsement.

Exactly - although to be fair, there are also those who yell and scream when Christianity is brought up in the context of American history. You just can't study history without also learning about the religions that influenced it.

 

[Plasmaball]

Op should be worrying about her math skills before anything else.

 

[bodecea]

At 43 seconds, the fat guy holds up a copy of the book.

Here is the TOC of that book: http://assets.pearsonschool.com/asset_mgr/current/201132/WH 2011 survey TOC_35280.pdf

Hannity plainly says, "By the way, keep in mind it has zero chapters on Christianity or Judaism".

He lies.

Look at Chapter 5: Chapter 5 Ancient Rome and the Rise of Christianity

Hannity thinks his viewers are pretty stupid. And in many cases, he's spot on.

 

[bodecea]

Depends on how it is presented. If it's a discussion of world religions and what each believes (e.g. introducing kids to comparative religions), then it's no different then telling kids about Greek or Norse mythology. If it's an endorsement (e.g. hey kids, there is only one God and Muhammed is His messenger) then it's a no go.

Unfortunately....some people think that just the mentioning of Mohammed and/or islam is an endorsement.

Exactly - although to be fair, there are also those who yell and scream when Christianity is brought up in the context of American history. You just can't study history without also learning about the religions that influenced it.

Don't see that.....ever. (Not denying it never happens tho)