Public school children forced to pray to Allah

[Kalam]

Your simply saying "no" proves nothing.....

That's because the burden of proof is on you to show that I have. What are you waiting for?

Just as you accusing someone of breaking a womans arm or urinating on them proves nothing.....

You can ask CornDog about that yourself. He won't deny it.

Unless you have solid proof, ABDUL, you'd better back up the ******* truck!

Do you know what "abdul" means?

 

[xotoxi]

Who the **** cares if Muslims pray with their own gender? Lots of religions do dopey things, get a grip.

So you consider the following to be nothing more than dopey things Islam demands:

Spousal abuse
Stoning of women who cry rape without 4 male witnesses
Women being beaten if a piece of skin accidentally becomes exposed.
No schooling for women

Well that's a starter list anyway.

Damn, you HATE women don't you? Or is it only brown women you hate Ravi?

I would have never taken Ravi as a misogynist and T-Ferg as a feminist!

 

[Kalam]

Hold up. Let's accept his word without proof of different. It pisses me off when people do that to me, and it isn't fair to do it to Kalam when I don't like it done to myself.

As I said though, the way he worded it is odd, leads me to believe he MIGHT hit a woman if the need arose.

That's because you'll see whatever you want no matter what I say.

 

[Kalam]

Actually, that is the first time you have ever said no.

'Fraid not.

Every other time you answered with "I've never touched my wife except in a loving way." or some such bullshit. Unlike some I will accept your word that you don't hit your wife. But I do wonder what you mean by "I don't plan to." Does that mean that things will remain the same as long as your wife doesn't stand up to you?

It means that I don't and won't beat women.

 

[Jack Fate]

Actually, that is the first time you have ever said no.

'Fraid not.

Every other time you answered with "I've never touched my wife except in a loving way." or some such bullshit. Unlike some I will accept your word that you don't hit your wife. But I do wonder what you mean by "I don't plan to." Does that mean that things will remain the same as long as your wife doesn't stand up to you?

It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Islam condones the beating of wives by their husbands. Case closed.

What is Al-taqiyya?

 

[syrenn]

Simple answer: They don't.

I disagree with you on that one suni man. In my opinion they sure as hell do.

In Islam, both men and women are equals in the sight of Allah.

It's just that some muslim countries have traditions and pre-Islamic cultures that subordinate women.

But it is NOT Islamic


It happens in many countries all over the world.

Ever been to South America? Brazil? Mexico? Latin America?

They are heavily Christian and treat their women very harshly and not as equals..

Men and woman may be equal in the eyes of your god. HOWEVER god is not the one interrupting, imposing and enforcing said equal treatment. Your clerics are the ones doing that, not your god.

 

[ConHog]

Actually, that is the first time you have ever said no.

'Fraid not.

Every other time you answered with "I've never touched my wife except in a loving way." or some such bullshit. Unlike some I will accept your word that you don't hit your wife. But I do wonder what you mean by "I don't plan to." Does that mean that things will remain the same as long as your wife doesn't stand up to you?

It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good, I applaud you going against your religion in that matter, and won't accuse you of such from now on.

Glad to see you admit that Islam gets things wrong.

 

[Jack Fate]

What is Al-taqiyya?

 

[syrenn]

It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good for you Kalam! Two thumbs up for you for that!


However under sharia law you/muslim men, have the right to beat your wife/women to death without fear of punishment.

 

[ConHog]

Anyone else find it odd that Sunni Mann hauled ass when the question of wife beating arose?

Kalam will you condemn Sunni Mann for his refusal to answer the question?

 

[Kalam]

Actually, that is the first time you have ever said no.

'Fraid not.

Every other time you answered with "I've never touched my wife except in a loving way." or some such bullshit. Unlike some I will accept your word that you don't hit your wife. But I do wonder what you mean by "I don't plan to." Does that mean that things will remain the same as long as your wife doesn't stand up to you?

It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good, I applaud you going against your religion in that matter, and won't accuse you of such from now on.

Glad to see you admit that Islam gets things wrong.

Beating is allowed under very limited circumstances, not encouraged. When one of the female companions (RA) consulted Muhammad (SAWS) for advice on who to marry, he advised her to stay away from a certain man and cited the fact that he beat his wives as a reason. Quit pretending as if you know anything about Islam, it only underscores your already obvious stupidity.

 

[ConHog]

It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good for you Kalam! Two thumbs up for you for that!


However under sharia law you/muslim men, have the right to beat your wife/women to death without fear of punishment.

A) Please don't call Muslim scum men, they are boys
B) That's not true, they COULD face punishment, in the form of restitution, just the same as if you killed someone's dog. Oh wait, you meant punishment in the form of hey that was a human you harmed? Nah never mind then.

 

[Wicked Jester]

What is Al-taqiyya?

How many times have you asked that now?

And why won't they answer?

What is Al-taqiyya?.......I'm not in the mood to go searching.

 

[Kalam]

It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good for you Kalam! Two thumbs up for you for that!


However under sharia law you/muslim men, have the right to beat your wife/women to death without fear of punishment.

I'm afraid that isn't true...

 

[Jack Fate]

'Fraid not.


It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good, I applaud you going against your religion in that matter, and won't accuse you of such from now on.

Glad to see you admit that Islam gets things wrong.

Beating is allowed under very limited circumstances, not encouraged. When one of the female companions (RA) consulted Muhammad (SAWS) for advice on who to marry, he advised her to stay away from a certain man and cited the fact that he beat his wives as a reason. Quit pretending as if you know anything about Islam, it only underscores your already obvious stupidity.

Beating your wife is condoned in Islam. Period.

What is al tacqiyya

 

[Wicked Jester]

'Fraid not.


It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good, I applaud you going against your religion in that matter, and won't accuse you of such from now on.

Glad to see you admit that Islam gets things wrong.

Beating is allowed under very limited circumstances, not encouraged. When one of the female companions (RA) consulted Muhammad (SAWS) for advice on who to marry, he advised her to stay away from a certain man and cited the fact that he beat his wives as a reason. Quit pretending as if you know anything about Islam, it only underscores your already obvious stupidity.

"Beating is allowed" under ANY circumstances is as cowardly as it gets.

 

[ConHog]

'Fraid not.


It means that I don't and won't beat women.

Good, I applaud you going against your religion in that matter, and won't accuse you of such from now on.

Glad to see you admit that Islam gets things wrong.

Beating is allowed under very limited circumstances, not encouraged. When one of the female companions (RA) consulted Muhammad (SAWS) for advice on who to marry, he advised her to stay away from a certain man and cited the fact that he beat his wives as a reason. Quit pretending as if you know anything about Islam, it only underscores your already obvious stupidity.

So let's see here. I stand up and say "okay he finally answered the question, lets accept his answer" and you respond with attacks. Why Kalam , hitting too close to home? No pun intended.

Why is it that so many people "misunderstand " Islam? Why have SO many people mistakenly came to the conclusion that it is a violent, hateful, chauvinistic, fear mongering cult? The entire world hates and fears Islam. Tell me, is that the world's fault, or maybe does the whole world have reason?

 

[ConHog]

What is Al-taqiyya?

How many times have you asked that now?

And why won't they answer?

What is Al-taqiyya?.......I'm not in the mood to go searching.

I think it's an Arab taco made of spiced camel meat........

 

[Ravi]

Who the **** cares if Muslims pray with their own gender? Lots of religions do dopey things, get a grip.

So you consider the following to be nothing more than dopey things Islam demands:

Spousal abuse
Stoning of women who cry rape without 4 male witnesses
Women being beaten if a piece of skin accidentally becomes exposed.
No schooling for women

Well that's a starter list anyway.

Damn, you HATE women don't you? Or is it only brown women you hate Ravi?

I would have never taken Ravi as a misogynist and T-Ferg as a feminist!

 

[Jack Fate]

Would one of you members of the religion of peace go ask your Imam this?

What is al taqiyya?