Public school children forced to pray to Allah

So we see JS and Del using the race card and the "islamophobia" card and insulting our families. Liberals are inclusive and tolerant........Unless you disagree with them. They have such a "needy" personality that they'll even let a murderous cult use them if it pokes a finger in the eye of a conservative.
 
Jack, you guys have used the racial and anti-religious cards: don't lie. You are not bright enough to get away with it.
 
Voting maybe not, but you made me curious so I researched it. (This is from Wikipedia). It sounds like the religion is not quite as demonic as you have portrayed it.

Oh boy, another attempt from the uninformed to defend something they know nothing about.

Early reforms

Main article: Early reforms under Islam
During the early reforms under Islam in the 7th century, reforms in women's rights affected marriage, divorce and inheritance.[17] Women were not accorded with such legal status in other cultures, including the West, until centuries later.[18] The Oxford Dictionary of Islam states that the general improvement of the status of Arab women included prohibition of female infanticide and recognizing women's full personhood.[19] "The dowry, previously regarded as a bride-price paid to the father, became a nuptial gift retained by the wife as part of her personal property."[17][20] Under Islamic law, marriage was no longer viewed as a "status" but rather as a "contract", in which the woman's consent was imperative.[17][20][21] "Women were given inheritance rights in a patriarchal society that had previously restricted inheritance to male relatives."[17] Annemarie Schimmel states that "compared to the pre-Islamic position of women, Islamic legislation meant an enormous progress; the woman has the right, at least according to the letter of the law, to administer the wealth she has brought into the family or has earned by her own work."[22] William Montgomery Watt states that Muhammad, in the historical context of his time, can be seen as a figure who testified on behalf of womenÂ’s rights and improved things considerably. Watt explains: "At the time Islam began, the conditions of women were terrible - they had no right to own property, were supposed to be the property of the man, and if the man died everything went to his sons." Muhammad, however, by "instituting rights of property ownership, inheritance, education and divorce, gave women certain basic safeguards."[23] Haddad and Esposito state that "Muhammad granted women rights and privileges in the sphere of family life, marriage, education, and economic endeavors, rights that help improve women's status in society."[24]

Women's rights went from them being non existent to giving them the right to own personal property and back to them being property. This is, somehow, better than we did in the US because women did not have any rights in the 7th century United States.

Instead of trying to justify modern day Islam by looking to the past you should look at what it does today.
 
QWB, you are not an expert on anything. In fact, you and Jack Fate are joined at the hip in the spec ed class. So don't even try your smarminess. Either meet the evidence head on or continued to be mocked.
 
She, the actress, said she was looking around...if she had been the camera would have been jittering around as well. And the mic wouldn't have picked up her one whispered phrase...this is just pure stupidity and hysteria.

The entire video is bullshit. Some kids inadvertently were allowed to pray, not FORCED to pray...the principal apologized. End of story. Well, except some rightwingloons got a hold of the tape and edited it and hired someone to do a voice over...hmmm, what's Britelbart up to these days?

They don't need to edit it. It's already established by the 9th circuit and US Supreme Court that teachers can require kids to pray to Allah. PDF of the case with Judge Phyllis Hamilton presiding is already on line.
What would we do without your big lie?

That's it? Just vague accusation?

Everything I posted is backed up and you know it, why do you deny it?
 
QWB, you are not an expert on anything. In fact, you and Jack Fate are joined at the hip in the spec ed class. So don't even try your smarminess. Either meet the evidence head on or continued to be mocked.

I know more about Islam and Christianity than you do.

Why does Islam condone the beating of wives by their husbands?
 
A question if I may to all the parents of daughters.

Would YOU be okay with your daughter being segregated and asked to leave the prayer room, knowing the Muslim religion treats woman as second class citizens?
Yes...because it is instructive for children to see how other cultures treat women.

Is it also instructive for them to be treated like they are in other cultures?
 
A question if I may to all the parents of daughters.

Would YOU be okay with your daughter being segregated and asked to leave the prayer room, knowing the Muslim religion treats woman as second class citizens?
Actualy, in every Mosque that I have ever been to or attended service.

There is both a men's prayer room and a women's prayer room.

Both rooms are carpeted and are equally furnished and nice.

The women are NOT treated as second class anything.

We just believe in separating men and women during prayer time.

Separate, but equal. We tried that one here and it flopped, but thanks for the idea.
 
Jack, you guys have used the racial and anti-religious cards: don't lie. You are not bright enough to get away with it.

Now you're gonna have to show my post where I used a race or anti-religious card. What do you mean by "anti-religious" card?

Anytime you accuse someone of racisim and religious hatred when you have no evidence for it, as you don't, then you are playing the race card.

The fauxright reactionaries having been trying to get away with this for two years, and true American conservatives and centrists and liberals have not permitted it. You will not get away with it this time.

Until you understand that American Muslims are every bit as American as you, with all the same rights and privileges, then you are guilty of religious hatred.

Stop it.
 
QWB, you are not an expert on anything. In fact, you and Jack Fate are joined at the hip in the spec ed class. So don't even try your smarminess. Either meet the evidence head on or continued to be mocked.

I know more about Islam and Christianity than you do.

Why does Islam condone the beating of wives by their husbands?

No, you don't at all, Jack Fate. You are very ignorant in both religions. Your comments prove it over and over.

For instance, in America, Islam does not protect men for beating their wives. And men in Africa, regardless of their religions, beat their wives, from the Mediterranean to the Cape of Good Hope.

You are so ignorant that you mistake religion for cultural attitudes.

Jack Fate, I don't know where and how much education you received, but its limitations are obvious.
 
A question if I may to all the parents of daughters.

Would YOU be okay with your daughter being segregated and asked to leave the prayer room, knowing the Muslim religion treats woman as second class citizens?
Actualy, in every Mosque that I have ever been to or attended service.

There is both a men's prayer room and a women's prayer room.

Both rooms are carpeted and are equally furnished and nice.

The women are NOT treated as second class anything.

We just believe in separating men and women during prayer time.

Separate, but equal. We tried that one here and it flopped, but thanks for the idea.

In private matters, this is none of your business, podjo. We are all protected by the Constitution concerning these issues. And by your silly definition, we have to get down on the Orthodox Jews and the Quakers and others for separating the sexes during worship.

What is wrong with you, son, that you have eyes and will not see and have ears and will not hear.
 
QWB, you are not an expert on anything. In fact, you and Jack Fate are joined at the hip in the spec ed class. So don't even try your smarminess. Either meet the evidence head on or continued to be mocked.

I know more about Islam and Christianity than you do.

Why does Islam condone the beating of wives by their husbands?

No, you don't at all, Jack Fate. You are very ignorant in both religions. Your comments prove it over and over.

For instance, in America, Islam does not protect men for beating their wives. And men in Africa, regardless of their religions, beat their wives, from the Mediterranean to the Cape of Good Hope.

You are so ignorant that you mistake religion for cultural attitudes.

Jack Fate, I don't know where and how much education you received, but its limitations are obvious.

On July 1, Kanwal filed for divorce, a prospect her father, a 52-year-old immigrant from Pakistan, would not entertain. Investigators say that after an argument on the night of July 5, he strangled Kanwal with a bungee cord. He could not accept the "disgrace" a divorce or affair would bring on his family, according to police.

The United Nations estimates that as many as 5,000 women are murdered in such honor killings each year for offenses like immodesty or refusing an arranged marriage. They may be on the rise in the U.S., as seen anecdotally in Kanwal's death and a handful of other prominent attacks:

• Fifty-year-old Yaser Abdel Said became the focus of a massive manhunt after he allegedly killed his teenage daughters Sarah and Amina — for dating boys against his will. Relatives say he tried to marry off Amina in his native Egypt when she was 16, and he hasn't been seen since the girls were shot to death on New Year's Day.

• Zein Isa, a Palestinian terrorist who lived in St. Louis, was convicted of killing his daughter Palestina in 1989. Investigators say he was furious she had a black boyfriend, went to a school dance and got a job at Wendy's. Palestina's mother held her down as Isa plunged a 9-inch knife into his daughter's chest, actions the FBI picked up on a microphone as they investigated Isa for his terrorist ties.

• Waheed Mohammad, a 22-year-old immigrant from Afghanistan, was shamed by his sister, who he thought was a "bad Muslim girl." At his mother's behest, investigators say, he tried to "stop" his sister, stabbing her multiple times, though she survived

Murder in the Family: Honor Killings in America - Local News | News Articles | National News | US News - FOXNews.com
 
You are reactionary, eaglebeck, not a traditional conservative. You are mistaking your uber-patriotic position as classical conservatism. You are dead wrong.
Shut up, kid. Your Poli Sci teacher taught you wrong.

And please note that "classical conservatives" don't kiss Obama's ass the way you do.
 
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SFC Ollie, if you are not endorsing the 1st Amendment protections, then are you offering anything of worth?
 
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You are reactionary, eaglebeck, not a traditional conservative. You are mistaking your uber-patriotic position as classical conservatism. You are dead wrong.
Shut up, kid. Your Poli Sci teacher taught you wrong.

And please note that "classical conservatives" don't kiss Obama's ass the way you do.

negged for refusing to accept that Jokey is a dumbshit not with conversing with.
 
You are reactionary, eaglebeck, not a traditional conservative. You are mistaking your uber-patriotic position as classical conservatism. You are dead wrong.
Shut up, kid. Your Poli Sci teacher taught you wrong.

And please note that "classical conservatives" don't kiss Obama's ass the way you do.

negged for refusing to accept that Jokey is a dumbshit not with conversing with.
:lol: I think he has me on Ignore. He refuses to respond to me.
 
The video says they were asked and that a few chose to participate.

The title of this thread says FORCED.

If they were forced then why didn't they all participate.

What horseshit! The OP is worse than the people he is complaining about.

psik
 

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