Public school children forced to pray to Allah

[Wicked Jester]

sure. why would it matter? orthodox jews do the same thing, IIRC.

do you think it would scar them for life?

You're fucked up.

Personally , I want my daughter to grow up knowing that she is not a second class citizen, and she doesn't have to take a back seat to anyone. Including Muslim men.

it doesn't surprise me that your offspring wouldn't be strong enough nor intelligent enough to withstand the *horrors* of a mosque visit.

the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, after all.

What we are talking about here is a parents RIGHT not to have religion shoved down the throats of their children in a PUBLIC SCHOOL setting.......If a parent wants religion shoved down their kids throats in a school setting, then they have the RIGHT to send their kids to a religion based school.

The, "well, they shouldn't have signed the permission slip" angle is complete garbage. I'll use my analogy from earlier......My twin daughters went on a field trip to the L.A. Zoo earlier this week. If the teachers allowed our children to go into the lions cage and pet the cute lil' furry creatures and they have their faces summarily ripped off, are we just supposed to say, "oh well, we signed the permission slip so, no big deal!"......Hell fuckin' no!....And the same goes for having religion shoved down their throats. It's wrong.

PUBLIC schools have two basic responsibilities. To provide a basic education and safe learning environment......In no way are they to act as parents!

Anybody who thinks otherwise are friggin' idiots.

 

[JakeStarkey]

TJ, sign or don't sign the permission slip. You get to vote for school policy in school board elections and for the state school board. You have no other vote. Sign or don't sign.

 

[uscitizen]

The Islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

 

[ConHog]

TJ, sign or don't sign the permission slip. You get to vote for school policy in school board elections and for the state school board. You have no other vote. Sign or don't sign.

So, let's say you sign a permission slip to go visit a Catholic Church, I know you wouldn't but just play along, and while at said Church your child participated in Communion you wouldn't be pissed? I mean you signed the permission slip.

I guarantee the first thing out of yalls mouths would be "That permission slip didn't say a damned thing about taking part in communion."

 

[Si modo]

The Islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

I disagree with your implication. It's not Islamophobia, it's demanding equality under the law.

 

[ConHog]

The Islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

It's not fear fool. I don't want my local school bringing students to my Christian church and having them pray either.

 

[Ravi]

The Islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

I blame the gays...since they are almost totally accepted in society the rightwingloons had to find another scapegoat...there is an election coming up after all.

 

[masquerade]

The Islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

I am not Islamophobic.
I do not live in fear.
I am disgusted at the way the Muslim religion treat woman. Period.

 

[Wicked Jester]

TJ, sign or don't sign the permission slip. You get to vote for school policy in school board elections and for the state school board. You have no other vote. Sign or don't sign.

Seriousy Jane, your liberal stupidity knows no bounds.

 

[masquerade]

A question if I may to all the parents of daughters.

Would YOU be okay with your daughter being segregated and asked to leave the prayer room, knowing the Muslim religion treats woman as second class citizens?

sure. why would it matter? orthodox jews do the same thing, IIRC.

do you think it would scar them for life?

No. But I do believe it would lead these girls to grow up disliking the Muslim religion. Aren't we currently being preached to by this administration to be tolerant and respectful of the Muslim religion? Yes, we are. Until they start treating women as women should be treated, I have zero respect and tolerance for the Muslim religion.

 

[uscitizen]

the islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

i disagree with your implication. It's not islamophobia, it's demanding equality under the law.

huh?

 

[Kalam]

But the women and the girls were told to leave.

How do you know that they were told to leave?

Because muslim men and women don't pray together. Men are allowed to beat their wives and then they can't even pray together afterwards. Nice religion.

Rasul Allah (SAWS) would be surprised to hear that.

Narrated Abu Sa'id; Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet said, "When a man wakes himself at night and awakens his wife and they pray two rak'ahs together, they are recorded among the men and women who make much mention of Allah." - Sunan Abu Dawud, Prayer, no. 1446.​

But don't let that stop you from being a stupid twit.

 

[uscitizen]

The Islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

It's not fear fool. I don't want my local school bringing students to my Christian church and having them pray either.

And you claim to be a Christian?

Turn away the little children?

 

[ConHog]

How do you know that they were told to leave?

Because muslim men and women don't pray together. Men are allowed to beat their wives and then they can't even pray together afterwards. Nice religion.

Rasul Allah (SAWS) would be surprised to hear that.

Narrated Abu Sa'id; Abu Hurayrah: The Prophet said, "When a man wakes himself at night and awakens his wife and they pray two rak'ahs together, they are recorded among the men and women who make much mention of Allah." - Sunan Abu Dawud, Prayer, no. 1446.​

But don't let that stop you from being a stupid twit.

Are they allowed to worship together at mosque?

 

[uscitizen]

How many [people here have even been to a service in a Mosque? Or been to an Islamic orientied cultural center?

 

[ConHog]

How many [people here have even been to a service in a Mosque? Or been to an Islamic orientied cultural center?

Islamice oriented culture center? Give me a break.

I have in fact been in three mosques, but only one during a service.

 

[Si modo]

the islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

i disagree with your implication. It's not islamophobia, it's demanding equality under the law.

huh?

You know, the First Amendment? "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, ...."

This IS a public school.

 

[Si modo]

The Islamophobia from the right is really amazing.
How sad it is to be so filled with fear.

It's not fear fool. I don't want my local school bringing students to my Christian church and having them pray either.

And you claim to be a Christian?

Turn away the little children?

If a public school took them there for prayer, or allowed them to pray, I bet he would. I would.

 

[uscitizen]

How many [people here have even been to a service in a Mosque? Or been to an Islamic orientied cultural center?

Islamice oriented culture center? Give me a break.

I have in fact been in three mosques, but only one during a service.

Conhog is a Manchurian candidate.

 

[uscitizen]

It's not fear fool. I don't want my local school bringing students to my Christian church and having them pray either.

And you claim to be a Christian?

Turn away the little children?

If a public school took them there for prayer, or allowed them to pray, I bet he would. I would.

Jesus would not have, according to the bible.