Protesters Carrying Rifle Outside Obama Rally

[HUGGY]

What cracks me up is that the stupid neo cons think Obama is trying to take away your guns. Don't ya think he could have these stupid fucks taken off the streets if he wanted WITH GOOD REASON?

That fuckwad Bush wouldn't let ya within a mile of him if he didn't like your T-shirt.

What it shows is that Obama understands the constitution and isn't afraid of you ding bats with guns or without...and Bush was and is a major coward with no love for the constitution or the people that revere it.

 

[Immanuel]

I think there is a symbolic message contained in the fact that armed people are showing up at political rallies. I think it should be sending a sending a message to politicians that they are threading on ground that could incite a revolt. That people are seeing a government exceeding its charter to such an extent, that they may be willing to become more than politically active; to become that final check on tyrannical government.

I must say, I am surprised that we have arrived here so quickly, but it's good warning sign that the pols should heed and curtail their efforts at instituting greater controls over people's lives. However, I think the pols are too avaricious to heed any such warning and will plow ahead undaunted.

See I'm not the only person right of center that sees a threat here.

That is basically how I see this. I simply don't think we should be going so far with this message. We are after all, still a Democratic Republic that believes in the ideas of freedom. Allowing these gun totters to dictate policy via intimidation is a scary thing in my book.

Immie

 

[Gudrid]

I could see at as a reasonable protest if, say, the bills being debated involved gun restrictions. But this is just dumb. As I said, it's the boy who cried wolf.

 

[Mr.Fitnah]

Politicians can and do take away your constitutional rights without firing a shot-----so who are the really dangerous people at this rally ?

Completely agree -- just look at how many rights are taken away by the Patriot Act!

I'd like to know how the patriot act caused any loss of rights to you personally, how did it affect yew? what did your lawyer say? on what grounds do you deserve compensation? TIA.

the" pat act" is an extension of the drug war laws, just try to carry a couple of stacks around or buy a plane ticket with cash while carrying plenty, you wont like it and may have a real problem getting the money back.
Buying money orders for more than a few thousand alerts government agents if the sale is done by the book.
Beyond that the taxes we pay are an assault on freedom.
everything is taxed in some way.

 

[Tech_Esq]

I could see at as a reasonable protest if, say, the bills being debated involved gun restrictions. But this is just dumb. As I said, it's the boy who cried wolf.

You have something related to the "Bilderbergs" on your tag line. That puts your ability to add 2 and 2 and get 4 under extreme scrutiny.

 

[Tech_Esq]

I think there is a symbolic message contained in the fact that armed people are showing up at political rallies. I think it should be sending a sending a message to politicians that they are threading on ground that could incite a revolt. That people are seeing a government exceeding its charter to such an extent, that they may be willing to become more than politically active; to become that final check on tyrannical government.

I must say, I am surprised that we have arrived here so quickly, but it's good warning sign that the pols should heed and curtail their efforts at instituting greater controls over people's lives. However, I think the pols are too avaricious to heed any such warning and will plow ahead undaunted.

See I'm not the only person right of center that sees a threat here.

That is basically how I see this. I simply don't think we should be going so far with this message. We are after all, still a Democratic Republic that believes in the ideas of freedom. Allowing these gun totters to dictate policy via intimidation is a scary thing in my book.

Immie

Well, don't put words in my mouth. I'm not saying that I have any problem with folks carrying firearms. I also don't think they are driving the message. Neither did I detect any intimidation.

My point is that the overreaching policies of the current government have actually spurred some people (even if they are fringe elements) to bring their weapons to political events. This is a pre-cursor warning that the policies are going too far.

The politicians can choose to blithely ignore it. But, I fear if they do, it will result in not so fringe elements carrying weapons to political meetings in the not so distant future. And, that is likely as not to lead to a some kind of snowball effect and take on a life of its own.

Is it time for a revolution? I'm not sure. Ask Thomas Jefferson and he'd probably say we're about 70 years too late for a revolution. Ask your typical liberal and it would never be time as long as the government is clamping down good and tight. I wonder if we'll find out.

 

[cunclusion]

Maybe so, but I see it as a threat to the President and something that I view as uncalled for. And paranoid is not the right word for it. I have a problem with it. Paranoid, means being afraid that everyone is out to get the paranoid person. I'm not worried they are out to get me. But, I understand what you mean. I just think this is the wrong message to send in America. It is something that seems like it would come from the citizens of Iraq or Afghanistan.

Immie

I don't see it so much as a threat against the President...I think it is more to intimidate anyone that supports health care reform including any politicians and the general public.

And while I have no problem with people expressing their second amendment rights I have a problem with being the subject of intimidation. Civil rights shouldn't be used to deprive others of their civil rights.

I didn't hear any reports that anyone brandished their weapon, let alone discharged it. I didn't hear any reports that anyone armed with a firearm accosted anyone at the event. I don't understand where you get the intimidation factor.

While I'm pretty sure I won't be bringing my M-14 to any political events, if it's legal to do so and nobody misused their weapons or used their rights to miscarry justice (brought a weapon legally, then misused it), I don't see the problem with it.

I think there is a symbolic message contained in the fact that armed people are showing up at political rallies. I think it should be sending a sending a message to politicians that they are threading on ground that could incite a revolt. That people are seeing a government exceeding its charter to such an extent, that they may be willing to become more than politically active; to become that final check on tyrannical government.

I must say, I am surprised that we have arrived here so quickly, but it's good warning sign that the pols should heed and curtail their efforts at instituting greater controls over people's lives. However, I think the pols are too avaricious to heed any such warning and will plow ahead undaunted.

Please the act of having a gun in the open (carried semi auto on strap on shoulder) is intimidation much less a semi automatic weapon. If I was walking down your street with one I bet you would be intimidated might even bring your gun out if you have one.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

Nice, But it's not Washington's Address to 1st session of Congress.

I posted his first state of the union and a link to his first inaugural address to congress. To what are you referring?

I'm referring to Washington's Address to 1st session of Congress. NOT his first inaugural address nor his first state of the union address.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I agree it should be allowed. That doesn't mean that the actions should be taken. Responsible adults do not act in such a manner.

Immie

Obviously they do.

Whether these people are responsible adults or not is a matter of opinion and one that you and I obviously do not share.

Immie

Well while you sit and let the government shove socialism down your throat , people like me and those armed citizens will be fighting to prevent it.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

What cracks me up is that the stupid neo cons think Obama is trying to take away your guns. Don't ya think he could have these stupid fucks taken off the streets if he wanted WITH GOOD REASON?

That fuckwad Bush wouldn't let ya within a mile of him if he didn't like your T-shirt.

What it shows is that Obama understands the constitution and isn't afraid of you ding bats with guns or without...and Bush was and is a major coward with no love for the constitution or the people that revere it.

What good reason would that be nancy?

They didn't break any laws. Bush isn't even a factor why do you stupid fucks insist on bringing him up everytime you attempt to defend Obama?

Perhaps attacking Bush is the only way you can defend Obama.

 

[HUGGY]

I think there is a symbolic message contained in the fact that armed people are showing up at political rallies. I think it should be sending a sending a message to politicians that they are threading on ground that could incite a revolt. That people are seeing a government exceeding its charter to such an extent, that they may be willing to become more than politically active; to become that final check on tyrannical government.

I must say, I am surprised that we have arrived here so quickly, but it's good warning sign that the pols should heed and curtail their efforts at instituting greater controls over people's lives. However, I think the pols are too avaricious to heed any such warning and will plow ahead undaunted.

See I'm not the only person right of center that sees a threat here.

That is basically how I see this. I simply don't think we should be going so far with this message. We are after all, still a Democratic Republic that believes in the ideas of freedom. Allowing these gun totters to dictate policy via intimidation is a scary thing in my book.

Immie

Well, don't put words in my mouth. I'm not saying that I have any problem with folks carrying firearms. I also don't think they are driving the message. Neither did I detect any intimidation.

My point is that the overreaching policies of the current government have actually spurred some people (even if they are fringe elements) to bring their weapons to political events. This is a pre-cursor warning that the policies are going too far.

The politicians can choose to blithely ignore it. But, I fear if they do, it will result in not so fringe elements carrying weapons to political meetings in the not so distant future. And, that is likely as not to lead to a some kind of snowball effect and take on a life of its own.

Is it time for a revolution? I'm not sure. Ask Thomas Jefferson and he'd probably say we're about 70 years too late for a revolution. Ask your typical liberal and it would never be time as long as the government is clamping down good and tight. I wonder if we'll find out.

You are nothing if not one of the most ignorant motherfuckers here at USMB.

Have you read the Patriot Act I,II?

What "liberal" was responsible for the most fascist document to make law in the USA?

That shit is straight up neo con christian fascist. I sit and wonder sometimes if people like you and people like me are of the same species. You are such a fool. Who turned off your brain?

 

[dilloduck]

I don't see it so much as a threat against the President...I think it is more to intimidate anyone that supports health care reform including any politicians and the general public.

And while I have no problem with people expressing their second amendment rights I have a problem with being the subject of intimidation. Civil rights shouldn't be used to deprive others of their civil rights.

I didn't hear any reports that anyone brandished their weapon, let alone discharged it. I didn't hear any reports that anyone armed with a firearm accosted anyone at the event. I don't understand where you get the intimidation factor.

While I'm pretty sure I won't be bringing my M-14 to any political events, if it's legal to do so and nobody misused their weapons or used their rights to miscarry justice (brought a weapon legally, then misused it), I don't see the problem with it.

I think there is a symbolic message contained in the fact that armed people are showing up at political rallies. I think it should be sending a sending a message to politicians that they are threading on ground that could incite a revolt. That people are seeing a government exceeding its charter to such an extent, that they may be willing to become more than politically active; to become that final check on tyrannical government.

I must say, I am surprised that we have arrived here so quickly, but it's good warning sign that the pols should heed and curtail their efforts at instituting greater controls over people's lives. However, I think the pols are too avaricious to heed any such warning and will plow ahead undaunted.

Please the act of having a gun in the open (carried semi auto on strap on shoulder) is intimidation much less a semi automatic weapon. If I was walking down your street with one I bet you would be intimidated might even bring your gun out if you have one.

ahhhhhhhhhh so you love the false security you get by burying your head in the sand and pretending citizens aren't armed if you can't see the weapon.

 

[Lonestar_logic]

I don't see it so much as a threat against the President...I think it is more to intimidate anyone that supports health care reform including any politicians and the general public.

And while I have no problem with people expressing their second amendment rights I have a problem with being the subject of intimidation. Civil rights shouldn't be used to deprive others of their civil rights.

I didn't hear any reports that anyone brandished their weapon, let alone discharged it. I didn't hear any reports that anyone armed with a firearm accosted anyone at the event. I don't understand where you get the intimidation factor.

While I'm pretty sure I won't be bringing my M-14 to any political events, if it's legal to do so and nobody misused their weapons or used their rights to miscarry justice (brought a weapon legally, then misused it), I don't see the problem with it.

I think there is a symbolic message contained in the fact that armed people are showing up at political rallies. I think it should be sending a sending a message to politicians that they are threading on ground that could incite a revolt. That people are seeing a government exceeding its charter to such an extent, that they may be willing to become more than politically active; to become that final check on tyrannical government.

I must say, I am surprised that we have arrived here so quickly, but it's good warning sign that the pols should heed and curtail their efforts at instituting greater controls over people's lives. However, I think the pols are too avaricious to heed any such warning and will plow ahead undaunted.

Please the act of having a gun in the open (carried semi auto on strap on shoulder) is intimidation much less a semi automatic weapon. If I was walking down your street with one I bet you would be intimidated might even bring your gun out if you have one.

The sight of a firearm intimidates you? Hahhaahahahhahahahahahahaha

 

[Tech_Esq]

I don't see it so much as a threat against the President...I think it is more to intimidate anyone that supports health care reform including any politicians and the general public.

And while I have no problem with people expressing their second amendment rights I have a problem with being the subject of intimidation. Civil rights shouldn't be used to deprive others of their civil rights.

I didn't hear any reports that anyone brandished their weapon, let alone discharged it. I didn't hear any reports that anyone armed with a firearm accosted anyone at the event. I don't understand where you get the intimidation factor.

While I'm pretty sure I won't be bringing my M-14 to any political events, if it's legal to do so and nobody misused their weapons or used their rights to miscarry justice (brought a weapon legally, then misused it), I don't see the problem with it.

I think there is a symbolic message contained in the fact that armed people are showing up at political rallies. I think it should be sending a sending a message to politicians that they are threading on ground that could incite a revolt. That people are seeing a government exceeding its charter to such an extent, that they may be willing to become more than politically active; to become that final check on tyrannical government.

I must say, I am surprised that we have arrived here so quickly, but it's good warning sign that the pols should heed and curtail their efforts at instituting greater controls over people's lives. However, I think the pols are too avaricious to heed any such warning and will plow ahead undaunted.

Please the act of having a gun in the open (carried semi auto on strap on shoulder) is intimidation much less a semi automatic weapon. If I was walking down your street with one I bet you would be intimidated might even bring your gun out if you have one.

I have to disagree. I don't see anything intimidating about someone who has a weapon slung over their back. Now if they were brandishing it, that might be different. I think it's much ado about nothing.

 

[editec]

Obviously they do.

Whether these people are responsible adults or not is a matter of opinion and one that you and I obviously do not share.

Immie

Well while you sit and let the government shove socialism down your throat , people like me and those armed citizens will be fighting to prevent it.

Will you?

I rather doubt it.

What exactly are YOU doing to prevent socialism?

Voting R?

Writing nasty things about liberals on the internet?

And you think that those things will help this nation not become a totalitarian state, do you?

Don't count on it.

 

[Tech_Esq]

See I'm not the only person right of center that sees a threat here.

That is basically how I see this. I simply don't think we should be going so far with this message. We are after all, still a Democratic Republic that believes in the ideas of freedom. Allowing these gun totters to dictate policy via intimidation is a scary thing in my book.

Immie

Well, don't put words in my mouth. I'm not saying that I have any problem with folks carrying firearms. I also don't think they are driving the message. Neither did I detect any intimidation.

My point is that the overreaching policies of the current government have actually spurred some people (even if they are fringe elements) to bring their weapons to political events. This is a pre-cursor warning that the policies are going too far.

The politicians can choose to blithely ignore it. But, I fear if they do, it will result in not so fringe elements carrying weapons to political meetings in the not so distant future. And, that is likely as not to lead to a some kind of snowball effect and take on a life of its own.

Is it time for a revolution? I'm not sure. Ask Thomas Jefferson and he'd probably say we're about 70 years too late for a revolution. Ask your typical liberal and it would never be time as long as the government is clamping down good and tight. I wonder if we'll find out.

You are nothing if not one of the most ignorant motherfuckers here at USMB.

Have you read the Patriot Act I,II?

What "liberal" was responsible for the most fascist document to make law in the USA?

That shit is straight up neo con christian fascist. I sit and wonder sometimes if people like you and people like me are of the same species. You are such a fool. Who turned off your brain?

Coming from you, that's a compliment. So I'll accept it as one.

Thank you!

 

[Barb]

Man carrying assault weapon attends Obama protest - Yahoo! News

I am no fan of the President, but this is disturbing to me. The message is clear and quite frankly, I think inappropriate. Not to mention just plain stupid. Notice that at least one of the guys wouldn't identify himself.

Immie

The lunatic fringe of the right wing is getting more and more extreme...fed by the ravings of Beck, Hannity, and FoxNews

Sooner or later there will be violence.

It appears you don't have a clue what the political right and political left actually is. You keep using "right wing" wrongly. If you could educate yourself, instead of spouting incorrect talking points for the sake of getting some partisan hack rep, the integrity of your posting and intellect would increase.

I had to give Chris some partisan hack rep (and a thanks) just because I could. So, spanky, what do you deem to be the appropriate use of political left and right? How do you think it is most widely perceived in most American conversations?

 

[editec]

See I'm not the only person right of center that sees a threat here.

That is basically how I see this. I simply don't think we should be going so far with this message. We are after all, still a Democratic Republic that believes in the ideas of freedom. Allowing these gun totters to dictate policy via intimidation is a scary thing in my book.

Immie

Well, don't put words in my mouth. I'm not saying that I have any problem with folks carrying firearms. I also don't think they are driving the message. Neither did I detect any intimidation.

My point is that the overreaching policies of the current government have actually spurred some people (even if they are fringe elements) to bring their weapons to political events. This is a pre-cursor warning that the policies are going too far.

The politicians can choose to blithely ignore it. But, I fear if they do, it will result in not so fringe elements carrying weapons to political meetings in the not so distant future. And, that is likely as not to lead to a some kind of snowball effect and take on a life of its own.

Is it time for a revolution? I'm not sure. Ask Thomas Jefferson and he'd probably say we're about 70 years too late for a revolution. Ask your typical liberal and it would never be time as long as the government is clamping down good and tight. I wonder if we'll find out.

You are nothing if not one of the most ignorant motherfuckers here at USMB.

Tech esq? Not even close to the most ignorant MF on the net.

Have you read the Patriot Act I,II?

Nobody has. It's mostly referencing to other laws that were already in place giving the gvernment the right to mess with citizens.

What "liberal" was responsible for the most fascist document to make law in the USA?

Totally agree.

The worthless insiders calling themselves Democrats lined up in droves to help the Republicans pass this egregious law.

Just as they've consistently lined up to vote with the insiders calling themselves Republicans to use the excuse of the war on drugs to erode any hope you or I have of privacy from government intrusion.

Both those laws are really a war on our the rights of the individual.

That shit is straight up neo con christian fascist. I sit and wonder sometimes if people like you and people like me are of the same species. You are such a fool. Who turned off your brain?

Television, would be my guess.

Just like it continues to turn most of our brains into mush.

The very fact that this board is little more than clueless partisans, each blaming the other side for the woes of America, when their leaders continue to get a pass

This divided nation pretty much proves how effectively we are being manipulated.

Not that libs and cons don't have real differences, but the vast majority of them are patriots who love this nation.

Unlike the people both sides tend to vote into office.

 

[CrusaderFrank]

Gun Carrying Americans have a chilling effect on Socialism

 

[bourne87]

Please the act of having a gun in the open (carried semi auto on strap on shoulder) is intimidation much less a semi automatic weapon. If I was walking down your street with one I bet you would be intimidated might even bring your gun out if you have one.[/QUOTE]

What are you talking about? Of course I would know that you are voicing your right bear arms.....