Proclaiming Hillary received the most popular votes is HIGHLY overrated

[Mac1958]

Has there EVER been an election in which the partisans in the winning party HAVEN'T claimed a mandate?

Zero credibility.

Hopefully cooler heads will prevail. Somehow.
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[Dr.Traveler]

Yeah, like I said I don't believe in mandates. Never have. Now, in Louisiana where we have jungle primaries and run off elections, I'd give you a mandate if you manage to win outright, no run off. But Presidental elections? No. Just no. The system is way too rigged to have only two candidates at the end.

 

[jc456]

Mandate bubba. Can't spin it tard (trump acceptance resistance disorder)

To put that in English, you appear to be saying that Trump has a mandate, even though he didn't get more votes.

Is that correct?
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he did, he got 306 to 232, isn't that more? or do you have some new math?

Oh, I see, you're going to ignore the actual vote totals.

Okay, never mind, I'm not interested in playing games.
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How is that, he won 306 to 232 I ignore nothing.

Technical point: Michigan isn't in yet. It's probably going to give its electors to Trump, but it isn't in yet.

And again, that means Trump won, but that's all it means. If you want to dig deeper into it and claim mandate you need more than winning. Did he win by a historic margin? No. Did he win the popular vote? No. Does he enjoy high favorable ratings? No. Did the Republicans increase their margins in the House? No. Did they increase their margin in the Senate? No.

They control the House and Senate, but actually lost ground in both. They had 54 seats in the prior Senate, and now have 52. They had 247 House seats before, and now have 238.

In short, there's no landslide or mandate here. Trump eeked out a victory and the GOP managed to hold onto Congress despite losing seats. It's a win. And that's about it.

Mandate bubba, mandate, landslide victory. all three houses. the congress didn't turn over. IT WAS EXPECTED by YOUR MSM dumbshits.

 

[ClosedCaption]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

You obviously didn't bother reading beyond the thread title.

I did and it was just an explanation of why he thinks the truth is over rated. But the truth doesn't care if you call it names...it's still the truth.

Truth?

The truth is we don't have one popular election, we have 53. And you get to vote in your state's popular election and you have a say in how your state allocates electoral votes. That's perfectly fair.

But you safety pins just keep screaming "unfair" like the safe space warriors you are.

That was a statement made on something no one is talking about followed by some creative name calling that has been approved by some mass declaration to all RWNJ's.

I'm not talking about how many elections. Or States allocating votes. I said that you saying Hilary won the popular vote is over rated makes no sense.

Its like pointing at a river, book or website and saying over rated....That doesnt make the river a book goof ball. Over rated is the easiest most nothing objection and now I see why you used it. You have nothing left but names

 

[DigitalDrifter]

We'll see how much RWnuts think majorities don't matter once the Democrats in the Senate start filibustering the GOP's agenda.

lol, you watch. You heard it here.

By the way, I assume your sig line (Good Job Deomcrats!) is sarcasm?

After this election, the Dimocrats will only have five state trifectas (Dim governor, Legislature, Senate). That is the fewest in history.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

To put that in English, you appear to be saying that Trump has a mandate, even though he didn't get more votes.

Is that correct?
.

he did, he got 306 to 232, isn't that more? or do you have some new math?

Oh, I see, you're going to ignore the actual vote totals.

Okay, never mind, I'm not interested in playing games.
.

How is that, he won 306 to 232 I ignore nothing.

Technical point: Michigan isn't in yet. It's probably going to give its electors to Trump, but it isn't in yet.

And again, that means Trump won, but that's all it means. If you want to dig deeper into it and claim mandate you need more than winning. Did he win by a historic margin? No. Did he win the popular vote? No. Does he enjoy high favorable ratings? No. Did the Republicans increase their margins in the House? No. Did they increase their margin in the Senate? No.

They control the House and Senate, but actually lost ground in both. They had 54 seats in the prior Senate, and now have 52. They had 247 House seats before, and now have 238.

In short, there's no landslide or mandate here. Trump eeked out a victory and the GOP managed to hold onto Congress despite losing seats. It's a win. And that's about it.

Mandate bubba, mandate, landslide victory. all three houses. the congress didn't turn over. IT WAS EXPECTED by YOUR MSM dumbshits.

And Trump himself. His own camp went into election day expecting to lose.

But, on topic, if you think it's a mandate, then what is it a mandate for? Conservatives are already fighting back against Trump's infrastructure proposal. That's never seeing the light of day. Ryan and McConnel have made it abundantly clear that deportation isn't going to happen either. Trump himself is backpedaling on the wall. No one in the GOP can agree about how to handle Obamacare, with some folks pushing for immediate and total repeal, some looking to replace, and some looking to keep the Pre-existing conditions clause and young adult coverage.

So, if it's a mandate, what is it a mandate for. Be specific. Your own elected officials don't have a clue what they're mandated to do but if that mandate is as clear as you claim, speak up. Go on. We're listening.

While you babble on in general word salad, the rest of the nation will be looking at the election and realizing that this wasn't the complete and total victory the GOP claimed. Losing seats in the House and Senate and losing the popular vote isn't exactly a vote of confidence.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

We'll see how much RWnuts think majorities don't matter once the Democrats in the Senate start filibustering the GOP's agenda.

lol, you watch. You heard it here.

By the way, I assume your sig line (Good Job Deomcrats!) is sarcasm?

After this election, the Dimocrats will only have five state trifectas (Dim governor, Legislature, Senate). That is the fewest in history.

That story deserves more attention. The GOP really has done a great job building grassroots and laying claim to the State houses.

Problem is though they do a terrible job governing. Kansas and Louisiana in particular are states where the GOP had carte blanche and screwed the whole thing up. The DNC is pretty much non-existent in Louisiana and they still won the Governorship thanks to Bobby Jindal.

 

[jc456]

he did, he got 306 to 232, isn't that more? or do you have some new math?

Oh, I see, you're going to ignore the actual vote totals.

Okay, never mind, I'm not interested in playing games.
.

How is that, he won 306 to 232 I ignore nothing.

Technical point: Michigan isn't in yet. It's probably going to give its electors to Trump, but it isn't in yet.

And again, that means Trump won, but that's all it means. If you want to dig deeper into it and claim mandate you need more than winning. Did he win by a historic margin? No. Did he win the popular vote? No. Does he enjoy high favorable ratings? No. Did the Republicans increase their margins in the House? No. Did they increase their margin in the Senate? No.

They control the House and Senate, but actually lost ground in both. They had 54 seats in the prior Senate, and now have 52. They had 247 House seats before, and now have 238.

In short, there's no landslide or mandate here. Trump eeked out a victory and the GOP managed to hold onto Congress despite losing seats. It's a win. And that's about it.

Mandate bubba, mandate, landslide victory. all three houses. the congress didn't turn over. IT WAS EXPECTED by YOUR MSM dumbshits.

And Trump himself. His own camp went into election day expecting to lose.

But, on topic, if you think it's a mandate, then what is it a mandate for? Conservatives are already fighting back against Trump's infrastructure proposal. That's never seeing the light of day. Ryan and McConnel have made it abundantly clear that deportation isn't going to happen either. Trump himself is backpedaling on the wall. No one in the GOP can agree about how to handle Obamacare, with some folks pushing for immediate and total repeal, some looking to replace, and some looking to keep the Pre-existing conditions clause and young adult coverage.

So, if it's a mandate, what is it a mandate for. Be specific. Your own elected officials don't have a clue what they're mandated to do but if that mandate is as clear as you claim, speak up. Go on. We're listening.

While you babble on in general word salad, the rest of the nation will be looking at the election and realizing that this wasn't the complete and total victory the GOP claimed. Losing seats in the House and Senate and losing the popular vote isn't exactly a vote of confidence.

it's exactly why it was a mandate!!! 306 to 232

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Oh, I see, you're going to ignore the actual vote totals.

Okay, never mind, I'm not interested in playing games.
.

How is that, he won 306 to 232 I ignore nothing.

Technical point: Michigan isn't in yet. It's probably going to give its electors to Trump, but it isn't in yet.

And again, that means Trump won, but that's all it means. If you want to dig deeper into it and claim mandate you need more than winning. Did he win by a historic margin? No. Did he win the popular vote? No. Does he enjoy high favorable ratings? No. Did the Republicans increase their margins in the House? No. Did they increase their margin in the Senate? No.

They control the House and Senate, but actually lost ground in both. They had 54 seats in the prior Senate, and now have 52. They had 247 House seats before, and now have 238.

In short, there's no landslide or mandate here. Trump eeked out a victory and the GOP managed to hold onto Congress despite losing seats. It's a win. And that's about it.

Mandate bubba, mandate, landslide victory. all three houses. the congress didn't turn over. IT WAS EXPECTED by YOUR MSM dumbshits.

And Trump himself. His own camp went into election day expecting to lose.

But, on topic, if you think it's a mandate, then what is it a mandate for? Conservatives are already fighting back against Trump's infrastructure proposal. That's never seeing the light of day. Ryan and McConnel have made it abundantly clear that deportation isn't going to happen either. Trump himself is backpedaling on the wall. No one in the GOP can agree about how to handle Obamacare, with some folks pushing for immediate and total repeal, some looking to replace, and some looking to keep the Pre-existing conditions clause and young adult coverage.

So, if it's a mandate, what is it a mandate for. Be specific. Your own elected officials don't have a clue what they're mandated to do but if that mandate is as clear as you claim, speak up. Go on. We're listening.

While you babble on in general word salad, the rest of the nation will be looking at the election and realizing that this wasn't the complete and total victory the GOP claimed. Losing seats in the House and Senate and losing the popular vote isn't exactly a vote of confidence.

it's exactly why it was a mandate!!! 306 to 232

Ok. For what? Lay it out. Was it a mandate for Trump's agenda? Because his own party is slicing and dicing that up now and guys like Ryan and McConnel got re-elected too. Is it a mandate for Ryan's #BetterWay because Trump's agenda is not at all compatible with that. Who is it a mandate for? What is is it a mandate for?

If you know, you'd best tell the GOP because right now they're arguing pretty hard about what comes next. There's a real, very real, chance Obamacare won't be repealled or replaced because the GOP doesn't have a clue what to do in relation to that. And that may be the one thing Trump, Ryan, and McConnell agree on.

 

[jc456]

How is that, he won 306 to 232 I ignore nothing.

Technical point: Michigan isn't in yet. It's probably going to give its electors to Trump, but it isn't in yet.

And again, that means Trump won, but that's all it means. If you want to dig deeper into it and claim mandate you need more than winning. Did he win by a historic margin? No. Did he win the popular vote? No. Does he enjoy high favorable ratings? No. Did the Republicans increase their margins in the House? No. Did they increase their margin in the Senate? No.

They control the House and Senate, but actually lost ground in both. They had 54 seats in the prior Senate, and now have 52. They had 247 House seats before, and now have 238.

In short, there's no landslide or mandate here. Trump eeked out a victory and the GOP managed to hold onto Congress despite losing seats. It's a win. And that's about it.

Mandate bubba, mandate, landslide victory. all three houses. the congress didn't turn over. IT WAS EXPECTED by YOUR MSM dumbshits.

And Trump himself. His own camp went into election day expecting to lose.

But, on topic, if you think it's a mandate, then what is it a mandate for? Conservatives are already fighting back against Trump's infrastructure proposal. That's never seeing the light of day. Ryan and McConnel have made it abundantly clear that deportation isn't going to happen either. Trump himself is backpedaling on the wall. No one in the GOP can agree about how to handle Obamacare, with some folks pushing for immediate and total repeal, some looking to replace, and some looking to keep the Pre-existing conditions clause and young adult coverage.

So, if it's a mandate, what is it a mandate for. Be specific. Your own elected officials don't have a clue what they're mandated to do but if that mandate is as clear as you claim, speak up. Go on. We're listening.

While you babble on in general word salad, the rest of the nation will be looking at the election and realizing that this wasn't the complete and total victory the GOP claimed. Losing seats in the House and Senate and losing the popular vote isn't exactly a vote of confidence.

it's exactly why it was a mandate!!! 306 to 232

Ok. For what? Lay it out. Was it a mandate for Trump's agenda? Because his own party is slicing and dicing that up now and guys like Ryan and McConnel got re-elected too. Is it a mandate for Ryan's #BetterWay because Trump's agenda is not at all compatible with that. Who is it a mandate for? What is is it a mandate for?

If you know, you'd best tell the GOP because right now they're arguing pretty hard about what comes next. There's a real, very real, chance Obamacare won't be repealled or replaced because the GOP doesn't have a clue what to do in relation to that. And that may be the one thing Trump, Ryan, and McConnell agree on.

lay what out? The mandate is all three houses of government with a win of 306 to 232. baddaboom bubba.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

Technical point: Michigan isn't in yet. It's probably going to give its electors to Trump, but it isn't in yet.

And again, that means Trump won, but that's all it means. If you want to dig deeper into it and claim mandate you need more than winning. Did he win by a historic margin? No. Did he win the popular vote? No. Does he enjoy high favorable ratings? No. Did the Republicans increase their margins in the House? No. Did they increase their margin in the Senate? No.

They control the House and Senate, but actually lost ground in both. They had 54 seats in the prior Senate, and now have 52. They had 247 House seats before, and now have 238.

In short, there's no landslide or mandate here. Trump eeked out a victory and the GOP managed to hold onto Congress despite losing seats. It's a win. And that's about it.

Mandate bubba, mandate, landslide victory. all three houses. the congress didn't turn over. IT WAS EXPECTED by YOUR MSM dumbshits.

And Trump himself. His own camp went into election day expecting to lose.

But, on topic, if you think it's a mandate, then what is it a mandate for? Conservatives are already fighting back against Trump's infrastructure proposal. That's never seeing the light of day. Ryan and McConnel have made it abundantly clear that deportation isn't going to happen either. Trump himself is backpedaling on the wall. No one in the GOP can agree about how to handle Obamacare, with some folks pushing for immediate and total repeal, some looking to replace, and some looking to keep the Pre-existing conditions clause and young adult coverage.

So, if it's a mandate, what is it a mandate for. Be specific. Your own elected officials don't have a clue what they're mandated to do but if that mandate is as clear as you claim, speak up. Go on. We're listening.

While you babble on in general word salad, the rest of the nation will be looking at the election and realizing that this wasn't the complete and total victory the GOP claimed. Losing seats in the House and Senate and losing the popular vote isn't exactly a vote of confidence.

it's exactly why it was a mandate!!! 306 to 232

Ok. For what? Lay it out. Was it a mandate for Trump's agenda? Because his own party is slicing and dicing that up now and guys like Ryan and McConnel got re-elected too. Is it a mandate for Ryan's #BetterWay because Trump's agenda is not at all compatible with that. Who is it a mandate for? What is is it a mandate for?

If you know, you'd best tell the GOP because right now they're arguing pretty hard about what comes next. There's a real, very real, chance Obamacare won't be repealled or replaced because the GOP doesn't have a clue what to do in relation to that. And that may be the one thing Trump, Ryan, and McConnell agree on.

lay what out? The mandate is all three houses of government with a win of 306 to 232. baddaboom bubba.

Mandate means you have the approval of the people to do something. So what? Control of the government is exactly that, control. But it isn't a mandate. The Mandate is approval for a plan of action. What is that mandate?

 

[DigitalDrifter]

We'll see how much RWnuts think majorities don't matter once the Democrats in the Senate start filibustering the GOP's agenda.

lol, you watch. You heard it here.

By the way, I assume your sig line (Good Job Deomcrats!) is sarcasm?

After this election, the Dimocrats will only have five state trifectas (Dim governor, Legislature, Senate). That is the fewest in history.

That story deserves more attention. The GOP really has done a great job building grassroots and laying claim to the State houses.

Problem is though they do a terrible job governing. Kansas and Louisiana in particular are states where the GOP had carte blanche and screwed the whole thing up. The DNC is pretty much non-existent in Louisiana and they still won the Governorship thanks to Bobby Jindal.

Yes it does need more attention, especially among liberals.

 

[Dr.Traveler]

We'll see how much RWnuts think majorities don't matter once the Democrats in the Senate start filibustering the GOP's agenda.

lol, you watch. You heard it here.

By the way, I assume your sig line (Good Job Deomcrats!) is sarcasm?

After this election, the Dimocrats will only have five state trifectas (Dim governor, Legislature, Senate). That is the fewest in history.

That story deserves more attention. The GOP really has done a great job building grassroots and laying claim to the State houses.

Problem is though they do a terrible job governing. Kansas and Louisiana in particular are states where the GOP had carte blanche and screwed the whole thing up. The DNC is pretty much non-existent in Louisiana and they still won the Governorship thanks to Bobby Jindal.

Yes it does need more attention, especially among liberals.

It'll have to. Folks even prior to election day were starting to realize that there is no "bench" for the Democrats. If Hillary had won, the folks lining up behind her to be next were all also old establishment types. Obama was the last up and coming person in the DNC and while he was pretty popular and easily walked to election and re-election, his charisma didn't help anyone else.

The only other Democrat that honestly could have won 2016 was Biden, and like Clinton he's old. No way he runs in 2020. And with no state level game, then who comes next is a mystery.

 

[TheDude]

Overrated nothing, it has no meaning. It’s not relevant


Your point about strategy is dead-on however, but don't expect liberals to comprehend the point. Most are unable to see past the narrative and/or surface. Meanwhile, we supposed to believe they intelligent, cuz they say so.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

How can you call the truth over rated? She won the popular vote. You can call it anything you like except a lie.

You obviously didn't bother reading beyond the thread title.

I did and it was just an explanation of why he thinks the truth is over rated. But the truth doesn't care if you call it names...it's still the truth.

Truth?

The truth is we don't have one popular election, we have 53. And you get to vote in your state's popular election and you have a say in how your state allocates electoral votes. That's perfectly fair.

But you safety pins just keep screaming "unfair" like the safe space warriors you are.

That was a statement made on something no one is talking about followed by some creative name calling that has been approved by some mass declaration to all RWNJ's.

I'm not talking about how many elections. Or States allocating votes. I said that you saying Hilary won the popular vote is over rated makes no sense.

Its like pointing at a river, book or website and saying over rated....That doesnt make the river a book goof ball. Over rated is the easiest most nothing objection and now I see why you used it. You have nothing left but names

I didn't write the OP, safety pin. What makes no sense is the idea of a "national popular vote" to begin with. It's like global warming, it doesn't exist except in the minds of the superstitious and impressionable. So there is no national popular vote for your felon loser candidate to win and the OP is inaccurate for presuming a media phantom.

Which means she won NOTHING.

 

[Nia88]

Every other 1st world country rules by the majority. For example britexit was decided by the people. We as a Ameirca who is suppose to the leader and example of democracy should do the same.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Every other 1st world country rules by the majority. For example britexit was decided by the people. We as a Ameirca who is suppose to the leader and example of democracy should do the same.

We rule by the majority too, safety pin. The majority in each state appoints the electors and the majority of those electors determines the next president.

Too complicated? Then just stick to crying in the streets with you fellow safe spacers.

 

[Nia88]

Every other 1st world country rules by the majority. For example britexit was decided by the people. We as a Ameirca who is suppose to the leader and example of democracy should do the same.

We rule by the majority too, safety pin. The majority in each state appoints the electors and the majority of those electors determines the next president.

Too complicated? Then just stick to crying in the streets with you fellow safe spacers.

The whole safety pin and crying insult is played out please come up with another one.

 

[saintmichaeldefendthem]

Every other 1st world country rules by the majority. For example britexit was decided by the people. We as a Ameirca who is suppose to the leader and example of democracy should do the same.

We rule by the majority too, safety pin. The majority in each state appoints the electors and the majority of those electors determines the next president.

Too complicated? Then just stick to crying in the streets with you fellow safe spacers.

The whole safety pin and crying insult is played out please come up with another one.

 

[KGB]

Every other 1st world country rules by the majority. For example britexit was decided by the people. We as a Ameirca who is suppose to the leader and example of democracy should do the same.

no other 1st world country has our system of government. It is a union of sovereign states, almost 50 individual countries formed into one. The majorities in those states voted for Trump. He won the election, Hillary lost. Trump is your next President. There is no prize nor Presidency for winning the popular vote. Next time, run a better candidate...