sangha
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- Jun 1, 2010
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no, dummy. not the obvious answer. not an answer i'd acknowledge. healthcare is not a primary source of education on diet and exercise. is this what you are proposing that our healthcare system should be? are you stating that the lifestyles in other more healthful countries are those which were taught them in hospitals? how is obesity converse to the proliferation of medical coverage in the US? who's got the absurd notion now?
people know damn well that they are disgusting when they are. they see me breaking a sweat to keep in shape and characterize the media as portraying unrealistic images of people who are narrower than they are, they are aware that the differences between fitness and obesity are not magical. notwithstanding, they claim that healthy food choices are nasty rabbit food. this is culture not stupidity.
have you finished reconciling your statement about the inadequacy of medicaid with the inadequacy of single payer care? in light of success in that challenge do you still maintain some need to pursue single payer care for all in an effort to paradoxically improve health outcomes?
Wow, you've really gone off the deep end. I think it's hilarious the way you argue that the health care system has no role to play in educating the public about matters relating to their health. Of course, it's so inane you won't come right out and say it. That would be too honest for you
So instead you have to put words in my mouth about people being educated in hospitals and other nonsense.
And which of the many voices in your head told you I said anything about reconciling medicaid and single payer? If wingnuts didnt make stuff up, they'd have nothing to say
I'd ask you to quote where I said such a thing, but I know that wingnuts never back up their absurdly dishonest claims. They just post a bunch of childish insults
similarly, maybe you could pin me down saying that "the health care system has no role to play in educating the public about matters relating to their health".
i've asked you to make some sense through reconciling your statement that medicaid is inadequate, and the discussion of this thread whereby socialized healthcare like medicaid is being vetted for its efficacy. look at the title of the thread against the posture of your argument. what can i say?
in your earlier argument that quality of healthcare drives quality of outcomes, you've conceded that lifestyle is important. you insisted that lifestyle education is the outcome-facilitator in quality of healthcare to persist in a link between studies which show outcomes in the US are inferior to, say, european outcomes. challenged to come out and say whether you thought that the outcomes in europe were driven by healthcare-facilitated lifestyle education, you have gone ad hominem troll status to deflect the ways your stupid argument is imperiled. noted.
I already stated that you're not honest enough to come right out and say it, but you make your hostility to the idea of the health care system playing a greater role in educating the public very clear by getting hysterical when I mention the idea. Why else would you mischaracterize my position as extreme as wanting to make people get their health information from hospitals?
So now that I've supported my statement, why don't you do the same and show me the quote?
And again, I said nothing about comparing medicaid to single payer, and I still see no reason to do so because medicaid is not a single payer system. I have no idea why you think there is a need to reconcile anything wrt medicaid and single payer.
" challenged to come out and say whether you thought that the outcomes in europe were driven by healthcare-facilitated lifestyle education, you have gone ad hominem troll status to deflect the ways your stupid argument is imperiled. "
What are you hallucinating again? You never asked me that question. This is just another attempt to distract with a straw man argument I never made. It's exactly as I said above about the way you get hysterical about the idea that the health care system can do more to educate people. Now you're making up some drivel about how "outcomes in europe were drivien by"..blah, blah, blah
It's very simple wingnut - Health care systems can and have influenced people to change their lifestyles in a healthy manner through education and the health care system should do more of this education wherever possible.
Now try and get hysterical about that