Problems with Federal Death for Roof

[Iceman36]

Problems with the trial of Dylann Roof.


#1. Dylann Roof should never have been allowed to represent himself, on the basis of the successful attempt to avoid his mental health history and diagnosis from being testified to in court, as well as on the basis of his age, even though he was legally an adult, he was by no means mature enough to provide himself with competent representation, and the fact that he simply wanted to shock the court with his ideology.


#2. Dylann Roof committed his crime in 2015, and as such, without a new method of execution that doesn't rely on medicine or any other humanity, sentencing Roof to death is little more than symbolic.



#3. Dylann Roof's case is complicated by the fact that he is under two different, conflicting opposite capital sentences from two different judicial authorities.



#4. The federal death penalty has the same problems as the more commonly carried out state death penalties and often, because of the nature of those on federal death row, the feds even have less effect on criminality.

On Federal death, you're looking at Tim mcveigh who was motivated by far right wing radical and violent ideology and sympathies for the Arab terrorists, and for randy weaver and the branch davidians.

The Rosenbergs who sought to assist the soviet union with American nuclear secrets.

Tsarnaev who is of radical Islam and who sees reward in death after his bad deeds.

 

[Iceman36]

Oh, and number 5...

None of the jurors on Roof's state or federal case were his peers.

 

[Iceman36]

WillHaftawaite

Oh really, Dylann Roof's peers were in 2015, in their early 20s with less than a high school education to favor the defense, or with no more than a blue collar trade skill to favor the prosecution.

One of the Jurors was an international businessman who was on a business trip on an airplane when he was summoned.

None were in their early 20s, none lacked an education and none felt disenfranchised in any way, at least the same type of way as Roof.

 

[RetiredGySgt]

WillHaftawaite

Oh really, Dylann Roof's peers were in 2015, in their early 20s with less than a high school education to favor the defense, or with no more than a blue collar trade skill to favor the prosecution.

One of the Jurors was an international businessman who was on a business trip on an airplane when he was summoned.

That isnt commonly what peers means so go cry somewhere else.

 

[Iceman36]

That isnt commonly what peers means so go cry somewhere else.

Then what does it mean if a rich college educated international businessman with a heaven on earth life, can judge a poor kid half his age or less?

 

[Auld Phart]

WillHaftawaite

Oh really, Dylann Roof's peers were in 2015, in their early 20s with less than a high school education to favor the defense, or with no more than a blue collar trade skill to favor the prosecution.

One of the Jurors was an international businessman who was on a business trip on an airplane when he was summoned.

None were in their early 20s, none lacked an education and none felt disenfranchised in any way, at least the same type of way as Roof.

You need to look up the term peers as it applies to juries.

What Is a Jury of Peers? - FindLaw

While it isn't specifically stated anywhere in the Constitution, defendants generally have the right to be tried by "a jury of peers." But what exactly is a jury of peers? Learn about this and more at FindLaw's Criminal Procedure section.

www.findlaw.com

 

[Meathead]

Problems with the trial of Dylann Roof.


#1. Dylann Roof should never have been allowed to represent himself, on the basis of the successful attempt to avoid his mental health history and diagnosis from being testified to in court, as well as on the basis of his age, even though he was legally an adult, he was by no means mature enough to provide himself with competent representation, and the fact that he simply wanted to shock the court with his ideology.


#2. Dylann Roof committed his crime in 2015, and as such, without a new method of execution that doesn't rely on medicine or any other humanity, sentencing Roof to death is little more than symbolic.



#3. Dylann Roof's case is complicated by the fact that he is under two different, conflicting opposite capital sentences from two different judicial authorities.



#4. The federal death penalty has the same problems as the more commonly carried out state death penalties and often, because of the nature of those on federal death row, the feds even have less effect on criminality.

On Federal death, you're looking at Tim mcveigh who was motivated by far right wing radical and violent ideology and sympathies for the Arab terrorists, and for randy weaver and the branch davidians.

The Rosenbergs who sought to assist the soviet union with American nuclear secrets.

Tsarnaev who is of radical Islam and who sees reward in death after his bad deeds.

They should just let him into general pop. It would take no more than 15 minutes.

 

[jwoodie]

Problems with the trial of Dylann Roof.


#1. Dylann Roof should never have been allowed to represent himself, on the basis of the successful attempt to avoid his mental health history and diagnosis from being testified to in court, as well as on the basis of his age, even though he was legally an adult, he was by no means mature enough to provide himself with competent representation, and the fact that he simply wanted to shock the court with his ideology.


#2. Dylann Roof committed his crime in 2015, and as such, without a new method of execution that doesn't rely on medicine or any other humanity, sentencing Roof to death is little more than symbolic.



#3. Dylann Roof's case is complicated by the fact that he is under two different, conflicting opposite capital sentences from two different judicial authorities.



#4. The federal death penalty has the same problems as the more commonly carried out state death penalties and often, because of the nature of those on federal death row, the feds even have less effect on criminality.

On Federal death, you're looking at Tim mcveigh who was motivated by far right wing radical and violent ideology and sympathies for the Arab terrorists, and for randy weaver and the branch davidians.

The Rosenbergs who sought to assist the soviet union with American nuclear secrets.

Tsarnaev who is of radical Islam and who sees reward in death after his bad deeds.

What is with these incomprehensible posts? How about:
1. An informative Title;
2. An introductory background statement;
3. Presentation of (relevant) facts; and
4. Conclusions reached

I am not advocating a strict format, but without these elements the ensuing comments are often off-topic outbursts which completely derail the OP's train of thought.

 

[surada]

Then what does it mean if a rich college educated international businessman with a heaven on earth life, can judge a poor kid half his age or less?

You don't know what peers means. Do you think a juvenile would have a jury of children.

 

[Iceman36]

You don't know what peers means. Do you think a juvenile would have a jury of children.

21 isn't a juvenile

 

[martybegan]

That isnt commonly what peers means so go cry somewhere else.

Unlike the left and their extremist murdering scum, the right wants nothing to do with this asshole, let him die.

You are not going to see us try to get him off the hook like the left is doing with Mumia or Peletier.

 

[Iceman36]

Unlike the left and their extremist murdering scum, the right wants nothing to do with this asshole, let him die.

You are not going to see us try to get him off the hook like the left is doing with Mumia or Peletier.

Oh please gimme a fuckin' break...
The right commits murder all the time like this..
And in fact Dylann Roof was radicalized by how far right wing the standard Republicans are..
His ideology is a very little hop, skip and jump from it...
Infact he was welcomed to it by your right wingers.

This is what you get when you fill the heads of children with right wing ideogy that they cant understand and dont..
and don't have the emotional maturity to control what the bullshit they will accept as normal or as their truth..

Some will turn out like him.

 

[surada]

21 isn't a juvenile

Well, he's not going to get a jury of 21 year olds. That's not how it works.

 

[Iceman36]

Well, he's not going to get a jury of 21 year olds. That's not how it works.

He has the right to a jury of 21 year olds..
21 year olds are allowed on juries...
And that isn't asking for an acquittal..
That's asking for some level of parity of maturity and education and lifestyle and understanding.

 

[surada]

He has the right to a jury of 21 year olds..
21 year olds are allowed on juries.

Nope. I'm not allowed a jury of old white grandmothers. Are you an adult?

 

[Iceman36]

Nope. I'm not allowed a jury of old white grandmothers. Are you an adult?

If you're elderly and white, you are entitled to a jury of old white grandmother's.
Period.
The USA isn't nazi Germany although the Republicans are trying to turn the USA into that.
But it isn't there yet.

 

[martybegan]

Oh please gimme a fuckin' break...
The right commits murder all the time like this..
And in fact Dylann Roof was radicalized by how far right wing the standard Republicans are..
His ideology is a very little hop, skip and jump from it...
Infact he was welcomed to it by your right wingers.

This is what you get when you fill the heads of children with right wing ideogy that they cant understand and dont..
and don't have the emotional maturity to control what the bullshit they will accept as normal or as their truth..

Some will turn out like him.

Lol wut?

He's a Nazi, not a Republican, or a mainstream right winger.


He's gonna die, and hopefully since the lefty anti-death penalty types won't touch him with a 10 foot pole, hopefully within the next decade.

 

[martybegan]

If you're elderly and white, you are entitled to a jury of old white grandmothers.

This applies to your OP as well

 

[Iceman36]

Lol wut?

He's a Nazi, not a Republican, or a mainstream right winger.


He's gonna die, and hopefully since the lefty anti-death penalty types won't touch him with a 10 foot pole, hopefully within the next decade.

In the mind of a kid, and infact increasingly in reality there is little or no difference between a republican and a nazi.

 

[martybegan]

In the mind of a kid, and infact increasingly in reality there is little or no difference between a republican and a nazi.

Bullshit.