Pro-life at 51%

[Anguille]

That's great, place all the blame on the guy.... I'm a woman and to not take responsibility for your OWN actions is just simply pathetic. You don't let him be the one that makes the decision, you make your own, that's what strong women do.

So it's a woman's fault if they trust a man but not a man's fault for being untrustworthy?

caveat emptor. chances are, if you are ******* "spontaneously" in the restroom stall of a night club irresponsibly then perhaps, and I know this is a giant shocker, your own poor choices have resulted in a path that you can't blame on a pair of testicles.

If the guy who promised to pull out in the night club toilet stall, doesn't and the woman gets pregnant, will he also be half pregnant and have a say in if she can abort or not?

How does that scenario fit into the Great Shogum Compromise?

 

[AllieBaba]

And when you can no longer address the issue, you personally attack. Because I don't see any evidence to back up your statements there.

You think women who belong to religous cults and are FORCED to father children by the so-called "prophet" aren't doing so against their will? I can cite many examples, kiddo. And the "choice" to have sex or not is quite often NOT up to the woman. I could even tell you a few horror stories about having to put up with my drunken husband who demanded sex from me, which, if I turned him down would result in even worse consequences--like broken bones. Fortunately, I used birth control which he didn't know about. Being the good Catholic he was, raping his wife was his right and if a child was the result, he had the Pope on his side.

You need to re-think your ranting nonsense, at least on those two issues.

You need to quit thinking that if people don't think like you do, they need to be "corrected" or are out of their minds.

I didn't hear anyone step forward to say they were "forced" to have children when the state inappropriately stormed the FDLS compound, took dozens of women and children, gave them pelvic exams (against their will) and then dumped them back together when they were unable to find anyone who would claim they were being or had been "abused".

Of course...the REASON that took place was because a mentally ill person who had a record of attempting to set people up in such a manner made ridiculous claims.....which were found to be untrue and unwarranted in any way.

Once again, have you any evidence of hordes of women being "forced" to carry children against their will?

 

[Shogun]

So it's a woman's fault if they trust a man but not a man's fault for being untrustworthy?

caveat emptor. chances are, if you are ******* "spontaneously" in the restroom stall of a night club irresponsibly then perhaps, and I know this is a giant shocker, your own poor choices have resulted in a path that you can't blame on a pair of testicles.

If the guy who promised to pull out in the night club toilet stall, doesn't and the woman gets pregnant, will he also be half pregnant and have a say in if she can abort or not?

How does that scenario fit into the Great Shogum Compromise?

First, perhaps you'll refrain from trying to justify irresponsible behaviour like throwing your ***** at the first guy to buy you a drink at the bar.

Second, specifically I mention that individuals should be responsible for using every form of contraception available. From the pill to the morning after pill you have no excuse, besides blaming your own poor CHOICE, if you get knocked up while ******* in the restroom of a club. No abortion for YOU!


Now, did you need to continue your lesson about sexual options which minimize the risk, of pregnancy or is this where I buy you a drink and tell yo to meet me in stall number 4?

 

[Shogun]

Are you PMS ing?

thats kind of a sexist statement, eh? Can I ask you if you are on the rag every time you post in a thread? oh, duh.. do as I say not as I do.. gotcha.

That's the second sexist statement I've made to you in this thread. 'Bout time you caught on.

I let the fist one pass.. I'm buying the drinks, after all.

 

[Anguille]

I'd say the most fault lies with the one who has to deal with the consequences. Life's unfair, but the truth is, it's the woman who has the baby. Therefore, if she is stupid enough to place her wellbeing and the wellbeing of future children at risk by fraternizing with men who are untrustworthy, she is more to blame.

Because after all, she could just say no.

I would say the most fault lies with whoever has the most control over the situation and if there is no physical force involved or abuse of authority or other such factor, then both partners share in the responsability for self control.
I've never understood why men should get more of a pass than women do for being unable to control their urges but I know why they do. We still live in a sexist society.

 

[Shogun]

ahh yes.. when push comes to shove.. blame some testicles.


*yawn*


What man makes you let them stick their dick into you, Ang? You think anyone forgets that No means No? non-rapists, that is?

 

[MaggieMae]

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

I'll wager I'm a much classier person than you are on the topic of, personal decisions regarding, or in fact performance during, sex. You, on the other hand, have just proven yourself to be nothing more than a holier-than-thou pig.

Just for your, er ******* edification, here are ALL the polls going back a couple of years. There's only ONE that shows a 51% approval rating. Surprise, surprise, even FOX's numbers aren't that high.

Abortion

 

[MaggieMae]

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

Comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strong points, either. But it's rather cute when someone feels a need to chuckle and harrumph over his sexual conquests. (The [lady] doth protest too much, me thinks...)

 

[KittenKoder]

In Canada they are very close to making it possible for a male to carry a child full term (all those experimented fetuses!) anyhoo, when it's possible for them to carry the fetus full term how about this, if the woman doesn't want it, let the men take it the rest of the development.

 

[Shogun]

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

I'll wager I'm a much classier person than you are on the topic of, personal decisions regarding, or in fact performance during, sex. You, on the other hand, have just proven yourself to be nothing more than a holier-than-thou pig.

Just for your, er ******* edification, here are ALL the polls going back a couple of years. There's only ONE that shows a 51% approval rating. Surprise, surprise, even FOX's numbers aren't that high.

Abortion

CLEARLY you are not. And, given how many times you've insisted that myself and others are virgins you'll have to forgive me for laughing at your misplaced self righteousness.



Again, look at the trends over the last 20 years. You are not gaining ground. Feel free to stomp your foot and throw a fit.

 

[MaggieMae]

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

Oh, good point. Most liberals are of the opinion if a drunk kills someone in a car wreck, the poor slob should be put away for life..or killed!

But women who get drunk and get pregnant should be given a pass on killing their babies.

Love your statistics. "Most liberals"??? I think some of you horses asses just like to see your shit in print, like someone really really important will "discover" what an articulate and well educated commentator you are. And maybe send you a basket of kudos.

 

[Shogun]

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

Comprehension doesn't seem to be one of your strong points, either. But it's rather cute when someone feels a need to chuckle and harrumph over his sexual conquests. (The [lady] doth protest too much, me thinks...)

It's really not a feat of comprehension when you've insisted that both myself and Allie Baba "must be" virgins. Do you need me to quote you? I'm not bragging at all; merely stating a fact. a fact which you seem incapable of letting sink into that dense rock you have for a skull. Perhaps your first error was to ASSume too much.

 

[MaggieMae]

Has extreme vagina envy turned Shogun and Diamond Dave into a couple of very bitter bitches?

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

That's great, place all the blame on the guy.... I'm a woman and to not take responsibility for your OWN actions is just simply pathetic. You don't let him be the one that makes the decision, you make your own, that's what strong women do.

Lotsa projection there, sweetie. I haven't, in any posting in this thread, said that a woman shouldn't take responsibility for protection TOO.

 

[Shogun]

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

Oh, good point. Most liberals are of the opinion if a drunk kills someone in a car wreck, the poor slob should be put away for life..or killed!

But women who get drunk and get pregnant should be given a pass on killing their babies.

Love your statistics. "Most liberals"??? I think some of you horses asses just like to see your shit in print, like someone really really important will "discover" what an articulate and well educated commentator you are. And maybe send you a basket of kudos.

...says just another user on an internet message board harping like a ******* banshee and stomping her dainty little foot in unbridled rage....





Perhaps you shouldn't throw stones if you are too much of a ***** to deal with rocks flying back at you...

 

[AllieBaba]

I don't think we've cornered the horse's ass market.

 

[MaggieMae]

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Are you PMS ing?

It's the way it talks. Read some of its other postings. Unfucking real that this asshole actually gives a sweet shit one way or the other over an aborted fetus. I get the impression he could get off by slurping up the afterbirth. Shogun, male or female, is one crude dude.

 

[AllieBaba]

Charming. Obviously you have the greatest regard for human life.

 

[MaggieMae]

That's great, place all the blame on the guy.... I'm a woman and to not take responsibility for your OWN actions is just simply pathetic. You don't let him be the one that makes the decision, you make your own, that's what strong women do.

So it's a woman's fault if they trust a man but not a man's fault for being untrustworthy?

She was speaking about getting so caught up in things that you just can't say 'no', therefore you have to have the ability to do away with the consequences should there be any. Why is it okay for the female to get so caught up in things that it totally takes priority over everything, inclusing the risk of getting pregnant. But, now you're saying that the guy is untrustworthy if he is equally caught up in the moment and doesn't pull out? Hypocrisy much? It's YOUR body, as I've heard ad nauseum, you are responsible for what you put into it and how you allow it to get there, but now you want to conveniently shift all the responibility to the guy? Are you ever responsible for anything?

Once again, where have I shifted "ALL" the responsibility to the guy? I made one ******* comment on a very common occurrence. ONE. When a guy says "I'll pull out" and at 180 pounds is on top of a woman weighing 115 pounds, it's kinda hard to start SHOVING HIS FAT ASS OFF when it becomes obvious he has no intention of pulling out.

It ain't rocket science. (But it IS the weight of gravity compounded by the frenzy of the moment.)

 

[MaggieMae]

So it's a woman's fault if they trust a man but not a man's fault for being untrustworthy?

caveat emptor. chances are, if you are ******* "spontaneously" in the restroom stall of a night club irresponsibly then perhaps, and I know this is a giant shocker, your own poor choices have resulted in a path that you can't blame on a pair of testicles.

If the guy who promised to pull out in the night club toilet stall, doesn't and the woman gets pregnant, will he also be half pregnant and have a say in if she can abort or not?

How does that scenario fit into the Great Shogum Compromise?

Well I was hardly referring to restroom stall quickies. That was Shogun's own version, typically laced with his pornographic imagination.

 

[Shogun]

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Are you PMS ing?

It's the way it talks. Read some of its other postings. Unfucking real that this asshole actually gives a sweet shit one way or the other over an aborted fetus. I get the impression he could get off by slurping up the afterbirth. Shogun, male or female, is one crude dude.

It's cute the way nooby motherfuckers react to some good ole Shogun. Listen, *****.. don't cry about my posts when you are going to react in kind. It kinda illustrates the flakeyness of your entire thread input. If you don't like the tone of my words or the mudhole that gets stomped in your ass then I suggest you discover the block user button.

slurping up the afterbirth? for real.. cry me another river. I LOVE irony.