Pro-life at 51%

[AllieBaba]

No, it's all the same. The same people who want to yank the rights of a 13 year old to determine whether or not he wants painful treatment and force him to have treatment are the people who have no problem with yanking the rights of the old, the infirm, the young, the vulnerable, and diminished capacity people. You're eugenecists, and the kind who absolutely don't believe that the child of a poor woman is as valuable as your own.

 

[MaggieMae]

Legalized abortion is one of the best ways to prevent crime....

The Impact of Legalized Abortion on Crime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Abortion is also good for the environment. When there are more people than this planet can support we could well end up killing each other or dying of hunger. Maybe both.

Those who would have women endlessly pump out babies against their will, claiming it's because of their respect for life, only facilitate our possible extinction. It's quite perverse of them to call themselves pro life.

What women are these? Because I've never heard of someone having a baby against her will.

You make the choice when you decide the risk of getting pregnant is worth it. That's when the choice over whether or not to create life is made.

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Omg, I think you must have (a) never even had a sexual encounter, and/or (b) still relying on mumbo jumbo printed for young girls back in the 40's.

 

[AllieBaba]

And when you can no longer address the issue, you personally attack. Because I don't see any evidence to back up your statements there.

 

[MaggieMae]

Rather, I'd CHOOSE to require you to utilize every birth control option available before you came near me. You wouldn't get me preggos, ang. Responsibility is crazy like that.

Abstinence is the only birth control method that is 100% effective. If you don't want me to get you pregnant quit spreading your legs.

Indeed, I have no problem ******* you in the ass, Ang.. If anal sex is what you crave then stop beating around the proverbial bush. I guess you've never sucked a dick before, eh?

It's always easy to tell who's losing an argument. S/he starts acting like a forty-something going on twelve.

 

[Shogun]

Abstinence is the only birth control method that is 100% effective. If you don't want me to get you pregnant quit spreading your legs.

Indeed, I have no problem ******* you in the ass, Ang.. If anal sex is what you crave then stop beating around the proverbial bush. I guess you've never sucked a dick before, eh?

It's always easy to tell who's losing an argument. S/he starts acting like a forty-something going on twelve.

That is a hilarious accusation coming from the same person to address Allie Baba by insisting that she's never had sex!



Omg, I think you must have (a) never even had a sexual encounter, and/or (b) still relying on mumbo jumbo printed for young girls back in the 40's.

please, don't let the irony hit you on your ass while you leave this thread!

 

[MaggieMae]

Has extreme vagina envy turned Shogun and Diamond Dave into a couple of very bitter bitches?

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

 

[MaggieMae]

No, it's all the same. The same people who want to yank the rights of a 13 year old to determine whether or not he wants painful treatment and force him to have treatment are the people who have no problem with yanking the rights of the old, the infirm, the young, the vulnerable, and diminished capacity people. You're eugenecists, and the kind who absolutely don't believe that the child of a poor woman is as valuable as your own.

Riiiight...

 

[MaggieMae]

And when you can no longer address the issue, you personally attack. Because I don't see any evidence to back up your statements there.

You think women who belong to religous cults and are FORCED to father children by the so-called "prophet" aren't doing so against their will? I can cite many examples, kiddo. And the "choice" to have sex or not is quite often NOT up to the woman. I could even tell you a few horror stories about having to put up with my drunken husband who demanded sex from me, which, if I turned him down would result in even worse consequences--like broken bones. Fortunately, I used birth control which he didn't know about. Being the good Catholic he was, raping his wife was his right and if a child was the result, he had the Pope on his side.

You need to re-think your ranting nonsense, at least on those two issues.

 

[Neser Boha]

Do you say the same thing when cops arrest a murderer? I mean, thats the DIRTY WORK of my principal against murder, eh?

You probably shouldn't try and tangent into torture, yo... that one will blow up in your face.

Indeed, you may want to think as much but, legally, we've prosicuted abortions before in this country and we can do it again. Don't want my opinion in your vagina? Then stop turning your vagina into a death chamber.

Most abortions happen in the first trimester. If you want all those people not to have abortions, put a sign out and say you'll take care of the baby.
Before you scream "personal choice" and "close your legs" - save the rant. I deal with how it happens in real life, not some warped Utopian ideal that your moral high-ground vacuous, mind-numbing brain thinks the world should work. Start dealing with reality, then start giving practical solutions. We can all stand on our high horse. You do that a lot, with this and the Israel issues....

Again, who needs to hold a sign when voting will work just as well? There is no dispute that abortions were not always legal. Thus, they can become illegal again. Save your mellodrama for teh coathanger excuses.

You could also say that you deal with murder in real life, too. That a killer doesn't subscribe to some utopian concept that killing humans beings is against the law. I don't really care how you rationalize killing babies OR murderous killers. Call it utopian. Call it a moral high ground. If you want to act like a criminal savage then the rest of society will treat you like one.

ps, reality is not defined solely by how you think it should function. Go ask the ghost of David Ben Gurion all about utopian ideas and practical solutions. I'm sure you'll switch the foot you stood on when posting that giant pile of stupid.

Dearie... consider this:

I have a friend. She recently confided in me that about two years ago she had an abortion that both her and her boyfriend agreed on as they just met each other and were not in any condition to be able to take care of a baby... It was hard for them, but they still think it was the best decision they could have made at that time.

So, according to your tirade above, she's a common criminal savage that should be treated as one. Is that correct?

If a friend of yours confided in you like that... how would you treat her? As common trash? Called her names? Beat her up in the dark alley calling her a whore cuz she couldn't keep her legs together?

My mother... two months before divorcing my father who was an alcoholic and often threatened her with physical harm... had an abortion. She chose to be a single mom with one kid instead of a single mother with two kids... Yeah, she deserves nothing but contempt as she's on par with a savage criminal...




(PS: It is also quite interesting that the only group of people that can be punished (as you would have them) for this 'crime' are women...)

PERSPECTIVE ANYONE?

 

[Shogun]

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

 

[AllieBaba]

Not only that, the evidence does NOT show anything regarding what trimester abortions occur at, because abortion clinics are fuzzy about their stats. The Guttmacher Institute has that disclaimer all through their site...and they are the #1 pro-abortion/abortion statistics provider in the world.

 

[AllieBaba]

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Good SEX is often spontaneous, even though the female AND the male carry protection just in case. But it doesn't come with a set of rules that the two parties must first discuss and then ponder over the final decision. Ever had sex yourself? Obviously at least not until you found someone willing to get out the directions first. Your rant allows for NO margin of error when emotions and libidos peak.

spontaneity isn't an excuse for irresponsibility. Funny how you are the first to leap to excuses, eh? And, in regards to the looming reality of illegal abortions I guess you'll have to readjust your thinking the next time you are in a club bathroom, bent over for some guy that just bought you a drink.

Indeed, I've had lots of sex. How funny it is that your sole rebuttal seems to be insisting that you are the only person to ever have fucked someone!

And, my partners have never had a problem with ******* a concerned, responsible person. I'd hate to see what kind of festering bacteria pot your vag is given the kind of herpe-inviting stance you enjoy taking.

Indeed, when it comes to the potential killing of a human being there should be no margin of error. Apparently, you'd also think our laws against drunk driving are too fascist too! Seriously, if your sexuality is reflected in your failed "you have never had sex' arguement then I makes sense why you'd need to facilitate your self esteem with your ass. Unfortunately for you, 51% and counting disagree with your logic and your cesspool method.

Oh, good point. Most liberals are of the opinion if a drunk kills someone in a car wreck, the poor slob should be put away for life..or killed!

But women who get drunk and get pregnant should be given a pass on killing their babies.

 

[Newby]

Like I said... it's about the other human life involved.. not about your vagina.. you want to concrete up your vagina, carve it out, or turn it into a party room... all well and good...

OR, since you are the ultimate gatekeeper, enjoy the prerogative that your bra burning ancestors fought for and stop letting irresponsible decision turn your vagina into a trash receptacle at the park.

Has extreme vagina envy turned Shogun and Diamond Dave into a couple of very bitter bitches?

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

That's great, place all the blame on the guy.... I'm a woman and to not take responsibility for your OWN actions is just simply pathetic. You don't let him be the one that makes the decision, you make your own, that's what strong women do.

 

[Anguille]

Has extreme vagina envy turned Shogun and Diamond Dave into a couple of very bitter bitches?

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Are you PMS ing?

 

[Anguille]

Has extreme vagina envy turned Shogun and Diamond Dave into a couple of very bitter bitches?

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

That's great, place all the blame on the guy.... I'm a woman and to not take responsibility for your OWN actions is just simply pathetic. You don't let him be the one that makes the decision, you make your own, that's what strong women do.

So it's a woman's fault if they trust a man but not a man's fault for being untrustworthy?

 

[Newby]

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

That's great, place all the blame on the guy.... I'm a woman and to not take responsibility for your OWN actions is just simply pathetic. You don't let him be the one that makes the decision, you make your own, that's what strong women do.

So it's a woman's fault if they trust a man but not a man's fault for being untrustworthy?

She was speaking about getting so caught up in things that you just can't say 'no', therefore you have to have the ability to do away with the consequences should there be any. Why is it okay for the female to get so caught up in things that it totally takes priority over everything, inclusing the risk of getting pregnant. But, now you're saying that the guy is untrustworthy if he is equally caught up in the moment and doesn't pull out? Hypocrisy much? It's YOUR body, as I've heard ad nauseum, you are responsible for what you put into it and how you allow it to get there, but now you want to conveniently shift all the responibility to the guy? Are you ever responsible for anything?

 

[AllieBaba]

I'd say the most fault lies with the one who has to deal with the consequences. Life's unfair, but the truth is, it's the woman who has the baby. Therefore, if she is stupid enough to place her wellbeing and the wellbeing of future children at risk by fraternizing with men who are untrustworthy, she is more to blame.

Because after all, she could just say no.

 

[Shogun]

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Are you PMS ing?

thats kind of a sexist statement, eh? Can I ask you if you are on the rag every time you post in a thread? oh, duh.. do as I say not as I do.. gotcha.

 

[Shogun]

It appears to me that both of them like to think they're unwilling co-participants in the whole pregnancy thing. How many women posting here, as younger and more fantasy prone romantics, ever heard the words breathlessly whispered "I'll pull out--I PROMISE!!"

Then they don't, leaving the girl to agonize for another month while the boy goes about his merry way.

That's great, place all the blame on the guy.... I'm a woman and to not take responsibility for your OWN actions is just simply pathetic. You don't let him be the one that makes the decision, you make your own, that's what strong women do.

So it's a woman's fault if they trust a man but not a man's fault for being untrustworthy?

caveat emptor. chances are, if you are ******* "spontaneously" in the restroom stall of a night club irresponsibly then perhaps, and I know this is a giant shocker, your own poor choices have resulted in a path that you can't blame on a pair of testicles.

 

[Anguille]

and yet, by THAT point you've already failed in that little thing we call responsibility. What man has ever forced his dick into you to the point of promising to pull out? Hell, pregnancies ALREADY provide a net profit via child support. How the **** do you fathom that promising to pull out invalidates your CHOICE TO ALLOW THE PENIS INTO YOUR VAG IN THE FIRST ******* PLACE? Or, without condoms, spermacidal lube and a ******* diaphragm? You are hardly a damsel in pregnant distress here. Again, enjoy your PRE-ZIPPER choice. If that means that you don't get to feed your self esteem through giving unprotected ***** away then, I guess, there are always mechanical options for you.

Are you PMS ing?

thats kind of a sexist statement, eh? Can I ask you if you are on the rag every time you post in a thread? oh, duh.. do as I say not as I do.. gotcha.

That's the second sexist statement I've made to you in this thread. 'Bout time you caught on.