Private Sector Jobs Report Red Alert plus Trump Refuses to Release Oct Results

[citygator]

The ADP jobs report shows job losses piling up the second half of this year. In related news the Trump administration is vowing not to release any GDP or jobs data ever. Something no administration has ever threatened. Clearly the administration thinks no news is better than the bad (horrible?) news that is coming.

"Democracy dies in darkness."

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-lost-jobs-through-late-october-new-private-sector-data-shows-2025-11-11/

WASHINGTON, Nov 11 (Reuters) - U.S. firms were shedding more than 11,000 jobs a week through late October, payroll processor ADP said on Tuesday in its latest real-time estimate of job market trends.

"The labor market struggled to produce jobs consistently during the second half of the month," said Nela Richardson, ADP's chief economist. ADP recently began issuing weekly payroll estimates as a way to augment its monthly jobs report.

ADP's payroll data is among several private-sector sources that policymakers have referred to as an alternative - if not a full substitute - to the official statistics that have been missing during the current U.S. government shutdown.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/12/white-house-october-data-release.html

"The... October CPI and jobs reports likely never being released," Leavitt said. "All of that economic data released will be permanently impaired, leaving our policymakers at the Fed, flying blind at a critical period."

With the spending impasse appearing to be near an end, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters that part of the fallout could be lasting damage to the government's data collection ability.

Jobs report data should be easy to collect belatedly because it involves asking business for hard numbers, according to Jeffrey Roach, chief economist at LPL Financial. In fact, he said the BLS could likely get multiple months' worth of data during one collection period if needed.

 

[WorldWatcher]

As the HR Informatgion Systems guy for my organizatgion of about 3,500 employees...

I've had to do BLS job reporting. Typically you were selected at random for a couple of years. Once your period is done, you are out of the random selection pool for a few years.

Reporting consisted of loging into their site and punching in a few numbers new hires, terms, number of full-time paid, number of part-time paid.

I doubt that employers were not required to make their submissions during the shutdown.

WW

 

[SweetSue92]

The ADP jobs report shows job losses piling up the second half of this year. In related news the Trump administration is vowing not to release any GDP or jobs data ever. Something no administration has ever threatened. Clearly the administration thinks no news is better than the bad (horrible?) news that is coming.

"Democracy dies in darkness."

https://www.reuters.com/business/us-lost-jobs-through-late-october-new-private-sector-data-shows-2025-11-11/

WASHINGTON, Nov 11 (Reuters) - U.S. firms were shedding more than 11,000 jobs a week through late October, payroll processor ADP said on Tuesday in its latest real-time estimate of job market trends.

"The labor market struggled to produce jobs consistently during the second half of the month," said Nela Richardson, ADP's chief economist. ADP recently began issuing weekly payroll estimates as a way to augment its monthly jobs report.

ADP's payroll data is among several private-sector sources that policymakers have referred to as an alternative - if not a full substitute - to the official statistics that have been missing during the current U.S. government shutdown.

https://www.cnbc.com/2025/11/12/white-house-october-data-release.html

"The... October CPI and jobs reports likely never being released," Leavitt said. "All of that economic data released will be permanently impaired, leaving our policymakers at the Fed, flying blind at a critical period."

With the spending impasse appearing to be near an end, White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told reporters that part of the fallout could be lasting damage to the government's data collection ability.

Jobs report data should be easy to collect belatedly because it involves asking business for hard numbers, according to Jeffrey Roach, chief economist at LPL Financial. In fact, he said the BLS could likely get multiple months' worth of data during one collection period if needed.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump needs to laser-focus on the economy and everything that goes with it now. Jobs, housing, cost of living, affordability. He's about to lose everything he gained because very few can get ahead.

 

[1srelluc]

The Schumer Shutdown has cost us 11 Billion.

Record government shutdown leaves an estimated $11 billion in permanent economic damage

The longest federal government shutdown in U.S. history appears to be nearing an end, but not without leaving a mark on an already-struggling economy

www.latimes.com

• The longest federal government shutdown in U.S. history is leaving an estimated $11 billion in permanent economic damage despite imminent reopening.
• About 1.25 million federal workers haven’t been paid since October, disrupting consumer spending and travel, while thousands of flights remain canceled.
• The shutdown has compounded existing economic challenges including sluggish hiring and elevated inflation, and has disrupted food aid benefits for 42 million recipients.

 

[citygator]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump needs to laser-focus on the economy and everything that goes with it now. Jobs, housing, cost of living, affordability. He's about to lose everything he gained because very few can get ahead.

I dont think he knows how. He's mostly in if for the show. I think he'd rather tell you the economy and jobs are good versus do the work to make it good. My opinion.

 

[SweetSue92]

I dont think he knows how. He's mostly in if for the show. I think he'd rather tell you the economy and jobs are good versus do the work to make it good. My opinion.

It would help if the Fed would put Americans over politics, yet here we are.

 

[1srelluc]

I dont think he knows how. He's mostly in if for the show. I think he'd rather tell you the economy and jobs are good versus do the work to make it good. My opinion.

Ha! If anyone paid attention to your financial advice they would be in the poor house by now.

 

[citygator]

The Schumer Shutdown has cost us 11 Billion.

Record government shutdown leaves an estimated $11 billion in permanent economic damage

The longest federal government shutdown in U.S. history appears to be nearing an end, but not without leaving a mark on an already-struggling economy

www.latimes.com

• The longest federal government shutdown in U.S. history is leaving an estimated $11 billion in permanent economic damage despite imminent reopening.
• About 1.25 million federal workers haven’t been paid since October, disrupting consumer spending and travel, while thousands of flights remain canceled.
• The shutdown has compounded existing economic challenges including sluggish hiring and elevated inflation, and has disrupted food aid benefits for 42 million recipients.

First that is way overestimated for political purposes, there will be a recovery bump. Always happens. Second, that's like 3 days sales for Walmart and Amazon. Not enough to blow the GDP. Trump is looking for all kind of excuses to blame people for his failures. We saw this in his first term.

I am not saying we are in free fall but the base economy is weak. I hope we dig out of it but there is just so much chaos under this administration.

 

[1srelluc]

First that is way overestimated for political purposes, there will be a recovery bump. Always happens. Second, that's like 3 days sales for Walmart and Amazon. Not enough to blow the GDP. Trump is looking for all kind of excuses to blame people for his failures. We saw this in his first term.

I am not saying we are in free fall but the base economy is weak. I hope we dig out of it but there is just so much chaos under this administration.

Hey, that figure is from one of your own left-leaning rags so if anything it's underestimated.....Other sources claim 17 Billion so I figured I'd use the source on the lower end of the scale....Bad look for the vile dems either way.

 

[citygator]

Hey, that figure is from one of your own left-leaning rags so if anything it's underestimated.....Other sources claim 17 Billion so I figured I'd use the source on the lower end of the scale....Bad look for the vile dems either way.

Meh. There is only one person who will be blamed for a bad economy if one arrives. It wont be the democrats.

 

[SweetTea]

Meh. There is only one person who will be blamed for a bad economy if one arrives. It wont be the democrats.

Which is exactly why they shutdown the government this time and why they will do the same in Jan. They don’t care about the country, people going hungry, people losing their insurance, none of that, just hurting Trump in the midterms.

 

[citygator]

Which is exactly why they shutdown the government this time and why they will do the same in Jan. They don’t care about the country, people going hungry, people losing their insurance, none of that, just hurting Trump in the midterms.

You guys said no one was going hungry and too many poor people are getting SNAP. Your pretend outrage doesnt fool anyone. You are who Jesus warned us about. Hypocrites.

 

[SweetTea]

You guys said no one was going hungry and too many poor people are getting SNAP. Your pretend outrage doesnt fool anyone. You are who Jesus warned us about. Hypocrites.

Too many people are getting SNAP. Very few people were really going hungry. That aside, none of that would have mattered if the Democrats wouldn’t have withheld their votes to keep the government open.

 

[citygator]

Too many people are getting SNAP. Very few people were really going hungry. That aside, none of that would have mattered if the Democrats wouldn’t have withheld their votes to keep the government open.

You just exposed yourself. You did exactly what I said you would. I dont even know how you look in the mirror.

 

[1srelluc]

You guys said no one was going hungry and too many poor people are getting SNAP. Your pretend outrage doesnt fool anyone. You are who Jesus warned us about. Hypocrites.

A vile dem braying about what Jesus said.....Talk about hypocrisy!

I would have left that one alone if I were you.

 

[struth]

As the HR Informatgion Systems guy for my organizatgion of about 3,500 employees...

I've had to do BLS job reporting. Typically you were selected at random for a couple of years. Once your period is done, you are out of the random selection pool for a few years.

Reporting consisted of loging into their site and punching in a few numbers new hires, terms, number of full-time paid, number of part-time paid.

I doubt that employers were not required to make their submissions during the shutdown.

WW

Yes but Schumer had the people collecting that data and running BLS reports laid off due to his shutdown

 

[22lcidw]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Trump needs to laser-focus on the economy and everything that goes with it now. Jobs, housing, cost of living, affordability. He's about to lose everything he gained because very few can get ahead.

Trump deserves a little time. To give him until next summer is reasonable. We also live in perma propaganda now also.

 

[WorldWatcher]

Yes but Schumer had the people collecting that data and running BLS reports laid off due to his shutdown

The employees were still sending the data.

It’s there, just the administration is saying they don’t want to release it.

I know, I’m the guy at my employer that would submit it. It could be mailed or uploaded to their website for electronic transfer.

WW

 

[struth]

The employees were still sending the data.

It’s there, just the administration is saying they don’t want to release it.

I know, I’m the guy at my employer that would submit it. It could be mailed or uploaded to their website for electronic transfer.

WW

There weren’t employees at the BLs to collect it and make a report

Because of the Dem shutdown

 

[leftwinger]

Private-sector employment in the United States rose by 42,000 jobs in October 2025, according to ADP's National Employment Report, //