Princeton Study: U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

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Princeton Study U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.

Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy," they write, "while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

As one illustration, Gilens and Page compare the political preferences of Americans at the 50th income percentile to preferences of Americans at the 90th percentile as well as major lobbying or business groups. They find that the government—whether Republican or Democratic—more often follows the preferences of the latter group rather than the first.

The researches note that this is not a new development caused by, say, recent Supreme Court decisions allowing more money in politics, such as Citizens United or this month's ruling onMcCutcheon v. FEC. As the data stretching back to the 1980s suggests, this has been a long term trend, and is therefore harder for most people to perceive, let alone reverse.

"Ordinary citizens," they write, "might often be observed to 'win' (that is, to get their preferred policy outcomes) even if they had no independent effect whatsoever on policy making, if elites (with whom they often agree) actually prevail."

The Republican policies of the last 3 decades for turning America into an Oligarchy have achieved their goal of stripping the voters of their democratic right to a government OF the people and FOR the people.

The government is now a fully owned subsidiary of the 1%.

And yet the Libertarians and the TP'ers are still unhappy.

Go figure!
 
Princeton Study U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.

Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy," they write, "while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

As one illustration, Gilens and Page compare the political preferences of Americans at the 50th income percentile to preferences of Americans at the 90th percentile as well as major lobbying or business groups. They find that the government—whether Republican or Democratic—more often follows the preferences of the latter group rather than the first.

The researches note that this is not a new development caused by, say, recent Supreme Court decisions allowing more money in politics, such as Citizens United or this month's ruling onMcCutcheon v. FEC. As the data stretching back to the 1980s suggests, this has been a long term trend, and is therefore harder for most people to perceive, let alone reverse.

"Ordinary citizens," they write, "might often be observed to 'win' (that is, to get their preferred policy outcomes) even if they had no independent effect whatsoever on policy making, if elites (with whom they often agree) actually prevail."

The Republican policies of the last 3 decades for turning America into an Oligarchy have achieved their goal of stripping the voters of their democratic right to a government OF the people and FOR the people.

The government is now a fully owned subsidiary of the 1%.

And yet the Libertarians and the TP'ers are still unhappy.

Go figure!

Sad, but I didn't need Princeton to tell me this......I realized it when Romney professed that corporations were people.
 
Without corporations a bunch of you people would be fighting in the streets over a scrap of bread.

This nation survived quite nicely with corporations until St Reagan decided to cripple the middle class and hand over power to the 1% instead.

The right will continue to fight for the rights of 1% until we really are fighting over scraps of bread. Then, they'll blame President Obama and/or the Dems.
 
The federal, state, and local government treasure chest...$6,100 billion. The most profitable corporation in comparison earned a paltry $45 billion profit. $6,100 billion vs $45 billion.
 
Well, actually, technically, our United States of America is not a Democracy. It is a Republic based on a mix of central government and federalism and is driven via indirect representative Democracy. See: electoral college, as we like to call it.
 
Without corporations a bunch of you people would be fighting in the streets over a scrap of bread.

This nation survived quite nicely with corporations until St Reagan decided to cripple the middle class and hand over power to the 1% instead.

Reagan crippled the middle class with thousands of jobs killing regulations costs hundreds of billions of dollars? Oh wait, no that was Democrats. Its not the GOP's fault the Democrats have throw the middle class under the bus, sacrificed on the alter of various liberal agendas.
 
The Republicrats have sold their souls to the corporate elite. Funny how the progs who whine and snivel about the Repubs can't see it in their own party. Here's a clue for you dimwits, it's BOTH PARTIES DOING IT!

Wake the hell up!
 
The Republicrats have sold their souls to the corporate elite. Funny how the progs who whine and snivel about the Repubs can't see it in their own party. Here's a clue for you dimwits, it's BOTH PARTIES DOING IT!

Wake the hell up!

Certainly the Dems colluded but it was the Republican agenda that enriched the 1% while impoverishing and disenfranchising the middle class.
 
Without corporations a bunch of you people would be fighting in the streets over a scrap of bread.

This nation survived quite nicely with corporations until St Reagan decided to cripple the middle class and hand over power to the 1% instead.
I WAS MIDDLE CLASS IN THE 80'S....by the early 90's I was upper middle class. I was retired by the age of 55.
Sure, I had to work hard and sacrifice...and take some chances.....
But I never felt crippled.
Why do you say the middle class was crippled? Why was I one that wasn't? Come to think of it, almost everyone I know has done better each year....I have seen people go from renting to owning...to owning a larger one....from renting to owning to putting kids through school....from 15K a year to 6 figures....from a weekend in the mountains as a vacation to 10 days in St. Maarten for a vacation.
Seems the only ones that went backwards and were crippled are the ones that claim to be victims.
Hmmm....maybe that is the problem? People spending too much time worrying about being a victim and not enough time making sure they are not?
Maybe?
 
Princeton Study U.S. No Longer An Actual Democracy

A new study from Princeton spells bad news for American democracy—namely, that it no longer exists.

Asking "[w]ho really rules?" researchers Martin Gilens and Benjamin I. Page argue that over the past few decades America's political system has slowly transformed from a democracy into an oligarchy, where wealthy elites wield most power.

Using data drawn from over 1,800 different policy initiatives from 1981 to 2002, the two conclude that rich, well-connected individuals on the political scene now steer the direction of the country, regardless of or even against the will of the majority of voters.

"The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy," they write, "while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."

As one illustration, Gilens and Page compare the political preferences of Americans at the 50th income percentile to preferences of Americans at the 90th percentile as well as major lobbying or business groups. They find that the government—whether Republican or Democratic—more often follows the preferences of the latter group rather than the first.

The researches note that this is not a new development caused by, say, recent Supreme Court decisions allowing more money in politics, such as Citizens United or this month's ruling onMcCutcheon v. FEC. As the data stretching back to the 1980s suggests, this has been a long term trend, and is therefore harder for most people to perceive, let alone reverse.

"Ordinary citizens," they write, "might often be observed to 'win' (that is, to get their preferred policy outcomes) even if they had no independent effect whatsoever on policy making, if elites (with whom they often agree) actually prevail."

The Republican policies of the last 3 decades for turning America into an Oligarchy have achieved their goal of stripping the voters of their democratic right to a government OF the people and FOR the people.

The government is now a fully owned subsidiary of the 1%.

And yet the Libertarians and the TP'ers are still unhappy.

Go figure!
Kill all the rich people and educated middle managers! Let's go back to farming and horse drawn wagons.

If the rich are in control, blame the pols...they are the ones being controlled...and you let them.
 
Without corporations a bunch of you people would be fighting in the streets over a scrap of bread.

This nation survived quite nicely with corporations until St Reagan decided to cripple the middle class and hand over power to the 1% instead.
I WAS MIDDLE CLASS IN THE 80'S....by the early 90's I was upper middle class. I was retired by the age of 55.
Sure, I had to work hard and sacrifice...and take some chances.....
But I never felt crippled.
Why do you say the middle class was crippled? Why was I one that wasn't? Come to think of it, almost everyone I know has done better each year....I have seen people go from renting to owning...to owning a larger one....from renting to owning to putting kids through school....from 15K a year to 6 figures....from a weekend in the mountains as a vacation to 10 days in St. Maarten for a vacation.
Seems the only ones that went backwards and were crippled are the ones that claim to be victims.
Hmmm....maybe that is the problem? People spending too much time worrying about being a victim and not enough time making sure they are not?
Maybe?

Your anecdotes don't refute the facts in the studies.
 
Without corporations a bunch of you people would be fighting in the streets over a scrap of bread.


Oh, we need corporations, but we don't need corporations controlling government. Republicans are responsible for that, considering corporations as "people" - and they are the ones that will cause the middle-class to fight for bread in the streets.....the 1% won't give a hoot......they won't be the ones doing the fighting.
 
The Republicrats have sold their souls to the corporate elite. Funny how the progs who whine and snivel about the Repubs can't see it in their own party. Here's a clue for you dimwits, it's BOTH PARTIES DOING IT!

Wake the hell up!

Certainly the Dems colluded but it was the Republican agenda that enriched the 1% while impoverishing and disenfranchising the middle class.








Bullshit. In 1932 2% of the population controlled 76% of this nations wealth. Democrats took over both houses of Congress, and held them for 40 continuous years. They also held the presidency for a significant amount of that time as well. The net result of 40 years of ABSOLUTE Democrat control was 1% controls 90% now.

So, you tell me, who were the Dems working for? Because it clearly wasn't the middle class.
 
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Your anecdotes don't refute the facts in the studies.

The anecdotes in the studies are concocted by a couple commie liberals from a commie/liberal institution in the commie liberal IVY League of LOWER EDUCATION. What else did you or any other of the commie/liberals who posts here expect? That AMERICAN CORPORATIONS/POLITICIANS would come to that conclusion? BIG AMERICAN corporations have always been the leader in politics in this country SINCE there have been BIG AMERICAN CORPORATIONS. You dumbasses think this is new?

Remember the Rockefellers? DuPonts? Astors? Fords? Durants? Gettys? Hunts? Vanderbilts? Goulds? No of course you don't.....Those are just a few of the people that invested and grew THIS GREAT COUNTRY. And now the BLEEDING HEART LIBERAL COMMUNISTS such as yourselves are just aching to split up the wealth of the BUILDERS of AMERICA.

You people can go straight down to hell. Read Mr. Sowell's quote...you are among the parasites he spoke of. And so are the commies who concocted the so called study.

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Without corporations a bunch of you people would be fighting in the streets over a scrap of bread.

This nation survived quite nicely with corporations until St Reagan decided to cripple the middle class and hand over power to the 1% instead.
I WAS MIDDLE CLASS IN THE 80'S....by the early 90's I was upper middle class. I was retired by the age of 55.
Sure, I had to work hard and sacrifice...and take some chances.....
But I never felt crippled.
Why do you say the middle class was crippled? Why was I one that wasn't? Come to think of it, almost everyone I know has done better each year....I have seen people go from renting to owning...to owning a larger one....from renting to owning to putting kids through school....from 15K a year to 6 figures....from a weekend in the mountains as a vacation to 10 days in St. Maarten for a vacation.
Seems the only ones that went backwards and were crippled are the ones that claim to be victims.
Hmmm....maybe that is the problem? People spending too much time worrying about being a victim and not enough time making sure they are not?
Maybe?

Not everyone makes it and a lot of people work hard but don't get ahead. In fact, that logic isn't 100% guaranteed. There have been plenty of people who worked hard and lost everything. People who thought they did everything right to make sure they weren't victims but became ones anyways.

They don't deserve protection because it worked out for you?
 
The Republicrats have sold their souls to the corporate elite. Funny how the progs who whine and snivel about the Repubs can't see it in their own party. Here's a clue for you dimwits, it's BOTH PARTIES DOING IT!

Wake the hell up!

Certainly the Dems colluded but it was the Republican agenda that enriched the 1% while impoverishing and disenfranchising the middle class.








Bullshit. In 1932 2% of the population controlled 76% of this nations wealth. Democrats took over both houses of Congress, and held them for 40 continuous years. They also held the presidency for a significant amount of that time as well. The net result of 40 years of ABSOLUTE Democrat control was 1% controls 90% now.

So, you tell me, who were the Dems working for? Because it clearly wasn't the middle class.

1% does not control 90% of wealth. It's difficult to give an exact number but most estimates give a figure around ~33% to 40% of the US's wealth is controlled by the top 1%. I don't even think the top 10% control 90% of the wealth.

You do however, bring up a good point that wealth inequality hasn't been this bad since the Herbert Hoover days of the roaring twenties. Ironically also a time that Republicans mostly ran the government.

Who Rules America Wealth Income and Power

Wealth And Inequality In America - Business Insider
 
The Republicrats have sold their souls to the corporate elite. Funny how the progs who whine and snivel about the Repubs can't see it in their own party. Here's a clue for you dimwits, it's BOTH PARTIES DOING IT!

Wake the hell up!

Certainly the Dems colluded but it was the Republican agenda that enriched the 1% while impoverishing and disenfranchising the middle class.








Bullshit. In 1932 2% of the population controlled 76% of this nations wealth. Democrats took over both houses of Congress, and held them for 40 continuous years. They also held the presidency for a significant amount of that time as well. The net result of 40 years of ABSOLUTE Democrat control was 1% controls 90% now.

So, you tell me, who were the Dems working for? Because it clearly wasn't the middle class.

1% does not control 90% of wealth. It's difficult to give an exact number but most estimates give a figure around ~33% to 40% of the US's wealth is controlled by the top 1%. I don't even think the top 10% control 90% of the wealth.





According to a report that Clinton had commissioned when he was first elected, and that was read into the Congressional Record, they do. They just hide it well, and the MSM has no intent on reporting the facts as they are owned by the one percenters.
 

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