Presidential Rankings........Obama: Tenth......Trump: last

[rightwinger]

What is wrong with the survey of 170 historians?

how many of them are part of the "i hate trump" mania?.....just asking...

If they are so biased, how did Reagan and Eisenhower rank top ten?

Any objective analysis of Trump would probably result in a negative judgement of his competency

what do they have to do with people of today who hate trump?......

Presidential rankings are based on objective criteria

People have hated Trump his whole life. There is nothing new there

give me a break rw....there are people who hate trump and dont give a dam if he actually does any thing good,they just hate the guy,and would never acknowledge anything positive about the guy.....we have a whole bunch of them right here on this board.....

What does that have to do with his presidential ranking?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Looks like Trump has nowhere to go but up

Opinion | How Does Trump Stack Up Against the Best — and Worst — Presidents?

Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared (Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10), while others have fallen (Andrew Jackson toppled to 15, out of the Top 10).

And President Trump? Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey, he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut.

It's not a bad ranking list but to put jimmy carter [who was the first person I ever voted for] 26th right away sends up red flags, he was so bad that his presidency spawned the phrase "reagan democrats", reagan was despised prior to the carter presidency, in fact jimmy carters real claim to fame is bringing reagan to power not isreal and egypt peace...and Kennedy not in the top ten?

 

[rightwinger]

Looks like Trump has nowhere to go but up

Opinion | How Does Trump Stack Up Against the Best — and Worst — Presidents?

Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared (Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10), while others have fallen (Andrew Jackson toppled to 15, out of the Top 10).

And President Trump? Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey, he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut.

It's not a bad ranking list but to put jimmy carter [who was the first person I ever voted for] 26th right away sends up red flags, he was so bad that his presidency spawned the phrase "reagan democrats", reagan was despised prior to the carter presidency, in fact jimmy carters real claim to fame is bringing reagan to power not isreal and egypt peace...and Kennedy not in the top ten?

History is looking kinder on the Carter Presidency

His handling of the Iranian hostage crisis destroyed him, but he did get them home safe.he balanced the budget and negotiated peace

JFK is martyred but he didn’t have as many accomplishments as LBJ

 

[Frankeneinstein]

History is looking kinder on the Carter Presidency

if the media ignored trump the way they are ignoring carters he would be ranked higher, the fact that history may be looking kinder on carters presidency is proof the media is propaganda and rankings like these are false, he was disliked by everyone after 4 years

His handling of the Iranian hostage crisis destroyed him, but he did get them home safe.he balanced the budget and negotiated peace

Not true, they were released on reagans watch, and campaigning against carter reagan called the Irainians kidnappers who there would be no negotiating with

JFK is martyred but he didn’t have as many accomplishments as LBJ

LBJ was only president because of Kennedy and he won a landslide election due to kennedys legacy...kennedy's martyrdom happened over time not over night.

 

[rightwinger]

History is looking kinder on the Carter Presidency

if the media ignored trump the way they are ignoring carters he would be ranked higher, the fact that history may be looking kinder on carters presidency is proof the media is propaganda and rankings like these are false, he was disliked by everyone after 4 years

His handling of the Iranian hostage crisis destroyed him, but he did get them home safe.he balanced the budget and negotiated peace

Not true, they were released on reagans watch, and campaigning against carter reagan called the Irainians kidnappers who there would be no negotiating with

JFK is martyred but he didn’t have as many accomplishments as LBJ

LBJ was only president because of Kennedy and he won a landslide election due to kennedys legacy...kennedy's martyrdom happened over time not over night.

The hostages were released 20 minutes into Reagan’s Presidency


LBJ passed Civil Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, war on poverty
He continued on JFKs path to Vietnam

 

[Frankeneinstein]

The hostages were released 20 minutes into Reagan’s Presidency

Because the Iranians had no intention of releasing the hostages as long as carter was president

LBJ passed Civil Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, war on poverty

I won't get into arguing LBJ with you, My family loved him but young democrats despised him ["LBJ how many kids you kill today?"]...and he lost the war on poverty

He continued on JFKs path to Vietnam

That's true, but it did not prevent LBJ from riding kennedy's legacy to victory

 

[whitehall]

Did the N.Y. Times ever rank a president in a historic context after only 2 1/2 years in office? Probably not. It's no secret that you can take a poll and get any results you want based on demographics. A poll among California beach bunnies might rank Elvis in the presidential top ten. The poll also gives an insight into the the democrat controlled education system and lefties have won the history propaganda war. FDR committed the most egregious unconstitutional act in history when he issued a decree to arrest American citizens without due process based on ethnicity but he comes out #3. The first the moon landing happened during the Nixon administration but the left wing propaganda ministry in the entertainment world decreed that only JFK's image can be shown in historic accounts of the moon landings. That's the way the system works and lefties like it fine.

 

[Harry Dresden]

how many of them are part of the "i hate trump" mania?.....just asking...

If they are so biased, how did Reagan and Eisenhower rank top ten?

Any objective analysis of Trump would probably result in a negative judgement of his competency

what do they have to do with people of today who hate trump?......

Presidential rankings are based on objective criteria

People have hated Trump his whole life. There is nothing new there

give me a break rw....there are people who hate trump and dont give a dam if he actually does any thing good,they just hate the guy,and would never acknowledge anything positive about the guy.....we have a whole bunch of them right here on this board.....

What does that have to do with his presidential ranking?

so the people who voted in the poll are above that kind of thing?...

 

[rightwinger]

The hostages were released 20 minutes into Reagan’s Presidency

Because the Iranians had no intention of releasing the hostages as long as carter was president

LBJ passed Civil Rights Act, Medicare, Medicaid, war on poverty

I won't get into arguing LBJ with you, My family loved him but young democrats despised him ["LBJ how many kids you kill today?"]...and he lost the war on poverty

He continued on JFKs path to Vietnam

That's true, but it did not prevent LBJ from riding kennedy's legacy to victory

If JFK had lived to see his second term, those kids would be chanting .....Hey, Hey, JFK.....How many kids did you kill today?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

If JFK had lived to see his second term, those kids would be chanting .....Hey, Hey, JFK.....How many kids did you kill today?

I doubt that but it has no bearing on where he should be ranked today based on what actually happened.

 

[rightwinger]

If JFK had lived to see his second term, those kids would be chanting .....Hey, Hey, JFK.....How many kids did you kill today?

I doubt that but it has no bearing on where he should be ranked today based on what actually happened.

JFK did not have a ton of accomplishments
He struggled in his first year and really didn’t get going until year three

A case of.....What if?

 

[Frankeneinstein]

JFK did not have a ton of accomplishments
He struggled in his first year and really didn’t get going until year three

That's true, and then Johnson spent the next 4 years squandering that third year to the point that Nixon was needed to fix it...NIXON

A case of.....What if?

I'm not the one projecting, You can look up everything I said...Johnson was despised and kenddy should need no accomplishments to rank ahead of Johnson, just look at the result of the elections directly following their leaving the office...let those be the standard

 

[Kilroy2]

Well with JFK the bay of pigs was a disaster but he redeemed himself on the Cuban missile crisis.

Back in those day Marilyn Monroe would sing happy birthday to him and the speculation was flying but now we have Trump who just leers at Kim K and we know who is getting played here

 

[Frankeneinstein]

Well with JFK the bay of pigs was a disaster but he redeemed himself on the Cuban missile crisis.

Back in those day Marilyn Monroe would sing happy birthday to him and the speculation was flying but now we have Trump who just leers at Kim K and we know who is getting played here

Kennedy was a great man loved him...Reagan and Obama too

 

[charwin95]

By far Trump is the most dishonest, corrupted, disgusting and unfit US president ever.
It’s like a little kid always doing or saying something dumb or stupid.

 

[Redfish]

Looks like Trump has nowhere to go but up

Opinion | How Does Trump Stack Up Against the Best — and Worst — Presidents?

Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared (Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10), while others have fallen (Andrew Jackson toppled to 15, out of the Top 10).

And President Trump? Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey, he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut.

/—-/ How can you compare a president who is only half way through his first term against all former presidents? Stupid fake poll. TDS

Easy, just like they will give you a Report Card half way through the Fourth Grade

You look at progress and grade that progress

on that basis Trump gets an A+

 

[Redfish]

Well with JFK the bay of pigs was a disaster but he redeemed himself on the Cuban missile crisis.

Back in those day Marilyn Monroe would sing happy birthday to him and the speculation was flying but now we have Trump who just leers at Kim K and we know who is getting played here

Kennedy was a great man loved him...Reagan and Obama too

Kennedy would be a republican if he was alive today. Reagan brought down the Berlin wall. Obama did nothing but denigrate the USA-------------worst president in history, by far.

 

[Redfish]

By far Trump is the most dishonest, corrupted, disgusting and unfit US president ever.
It’s like a little kid always doing or saying something dumb or stupid.

you know who fits that definition? Hillary Clinton, AOC, Schumer, Pelosi, Swalwell, Bernie, Pocahontas, and most of the media.

 

[Redfish]

how many of them are part of the "i hate trump" mania?.....just asking...

If they are so biased, how did Reagan and Eisenhower rank top ten?

Any objective analysis of Trump would probably result in a negative judgement of his competency

what do they have to do with people of today who hate trump?......

Presidential rankings are based on objective criteria

People have hated Trump his whole life. There is nothing new there

give me a break rw....there are people who hate trump and dont give a dam if he actually does any thing good,they just hate the guy,and would never acknowledge anything positive about the guy.....we have a whole bunch of them right here on this board.....

What does that have to do with his presidential ranking?

are you really that stupid? WTF do you expect when the rankings are done by far left wing Trump haters?

 

[Third Party]

Looks like Trump has nowhere to go but up

Opinion | How Does Trump Stack Up Against the Best — and Worst — Presidents?

Since our previous survey in 2014, some presidential legacies have soared (Barack Obama’s stock has climbed into the Top 10), while others have fallen (Andrew Jackson toppled to 15, out of the Top 10).

And President Trump? Let’s say that, according to the 170 members of the American Political Science Association’s Presidents and Executive Politics section who filled out our survey, he has at least three years to improve on an ignominious debut.

Years later when those without TDS look at the scoresheet, they will say he fixed Obama's mistakes and many other things.