President Looking Through Romney Donor's Divorce Records

[Trajan]

oh ane he , well axelrod went after obamas primary opponent ( blair hull), the end game being boxing him in, those records were unsealed to, yes they agreed but it didn't matter.....the sniff of you
know what left them little choice.

lighting strikes twice for some folks

It's good old American politics. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

oh, right, in other words its all good as long as my man is doing it.....ahhh whither has fled that visionary gleam? were is it now, the glory and the dream?

hope and change baby.

 

[Trajan]

A little knowledge for you clueless conservatives. A sample from 2006:

"Opposition research is power," said Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (N.Y.), the NRCC chairman. "Opposition research is the key to defining untested opponents."

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, has enlisted veteran party strategist Terry Nelson to run a campaign that will coordinate with Senate Republicans on ads that similarly will rely on the best of the worst that researchers have dug up on Democrats. The first ad run by the new RNC effort criticizes Ohio Rep. Sherrod Brown (D) for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

Because challengers tend to be little-known compared with incumbents, they are more vulnerable to having their public image framed by the opposition through attacks and unflattering personal revelations.

And with polls showing the Republicans' House and Senate majorities in jeopardy, party strategists said they have concluded that their best chance to prevent big Democratic gains is a television and direct-mail blitz over the next eight weeks aimed at raising enough questions about Democratic candidates that voters decide they are unacceptable choices.

"When you run in an adverse political environment, you try to localize and personalize the race as much as you can," Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said.

In a memo released last week, Cole, who is running to succeed Reynolds at the NRCC, expanded on that strategy. The memo recommended that vulnerable incumbents spend $20,000 on a research "package" to find damaging material about challengers and urged that they "define your opponent immediately and unrelentingly."

In a Pivotal Year, GOP Plans to Get Personal

for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

wow!!!!!!their congressional record was vetted? damn them

 

[Salt Jones]

uhm not quite-

On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[1][12]

The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]

and just for the heck of it-

Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[17] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made the following request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Don’t ask for Ted Kennedy’s. Don’t ask for John McCain’s. Don’t ask for Joe Lieberman’s. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[17]

Jack Ryan (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I got it from the wikipedia page:

Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released.

I'm not sure, I'm trying to find another source.

yes I saw it , yet there is a difference between what they did or didn't want unsealed...they both said they didn't want that out...(?)


you do know axlerod got leaked copies right? he sent folks or that is the Tribune ( , sent folks to cali to dig the dirt and make the request.

Good. Politics is a cutthroat business.

 

[Trajan]

Actually, both Jack and Jeri Ryan agreed to release the divorce papers.

uhm not quite-

On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[1][12]

The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]

and just for the heck of it-

Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[17] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made the following request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Don’t ask for Ted Kennedy’s. Don’t ask for John McCain’s. Don’t ask for Joe Lieberman’s. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[17]

Jack Ryan (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Did he deny it?

critical thinking ...don't post without it.....


whoops, to late.

 

[Trajan]

I got it from the wikipedia page:



I'm not sure, I'm trying to find another source.

yes I saw it , yet there is a difference between what they did or didn't want unsealed...they both said they didn't want that out...(?)


you do know axlerod got leaked copies right? he sent folks or that is the Tribune ( , sent folks to cali to dig the dirt and make the request.

Good. Politics is a cutthroat business.

blair hull was...white??

 

[Salt Jones]

oh ane he , well axelrod went after obamas primary opponent ( blair hull), the end game being boxing him in, those records were unsealed to, yes they agreed but it didn't matter.....the sniff of you
know what left them little choice.

lighting strikes twice for some folks

It's good old American politics. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

oh, right, in other words its all good as long as my man is doing it.....ahhh whither has fled that visionary gleam? were is it now, the glory and the dream?

hope and change baby.

I never believed in hope or change. I believe in the art of American politics, the cutthroat politics that has been with this country since the beginning of the republic. Winning and shaping the country in your image is all that matters. Haven't you ever studied the histiroy of American politics?

 

[Salt Jones]

yes I saw it , yet there is a difference between what they did or didn't want unsealed...they both said they didn't want that out...(?)


you do know axlerod got leaked copies right? he sent folks or that is the Tribune ( , sent folks to cali to dig the dirt and make the request.

Good. Politics is a cutthroat business.

blair hull was...white??

Who cares either way. All that matters is he was the opponent.

 

[Salt Jones]

A little knowledge for you clueless conservatives. A sample from 2006:

"Opposition research is power," said Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (N.Y.), the NRCC chairman. "Opposition research is the key to defining untested opponents."

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, has enlisted veteran party strategist Terry Nelson to run a campaign that will coordinate with Senate Republicans on ads that similarly will rely on the best of the worst that researchers have dug up on Democrats. The first ad run by the new RNC effort criticizes Ohio Rep. Sherrod Brown (D) for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

Because challengers tend to be little-known compared with incumbents, they are more vulnerable to having their public image framed by the opposition through attacks and unflattering personal revelations.

And with polls showing the Republicans' House and Senate majorities in jeopardy, party strategists said they have concluded that their best chance to prevent big Democratic gains is a television and direct-mail blitz over the next eight weeks aimed at raising enough questions about Democratic candidates that voters decide they are unacceptable choices.

"When you run in an adverse political environment, you try to localize and personalize the race as much as you can," Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said.

In a memo released last week, Cole, who is running to succeed Reynolds at the NRCC, expanded on that strategy. The memo recommended that vulnerable incumbents spend $20,000 on a research "package" to find damaging material about challengers and urged that they "define your opponent immediately and unrelentingly."

In a Pivotal Year, GOP Plans to Get Personal

for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

wow!!!!!!their congressional record was vetted? damn them

Are you really that stupid?

 

[mudwhistle]

A little knowledge for you clueless conservatives. A sample from 2006:

"Opposition research is power," said Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (N.Y.), the NRCC chairman. "Opposition research is the key to defining untested opponents."

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, has enlisted veteran party strategist Terry Nelson to run a campaign that will coordinate with Senate Republicans on ads that similarly will rely on the best of the worst that researchers have dug up on Democrats. The first ad run by the new RNC effort criticizes Ohio Rep. Sherrod Brown (D) for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

Because challengers tend to be little-known compared with incumbents, they are more vulnerable to having their public image framed by the opposition through attacks and unflattering personal revelations.

And with polls showing the Republicans' House and Senate majorities in jeopardy, party strategists said they have concluded that their best chance to prevent big Democratic gains is a television and direct-mail blitz over the next eight weeks aimed at raising enough questions about Democratic candidates that voters decide they are unacceptable choices.

"When you run in an adverse political environment, you try to localize and personalize the race as much as you can," Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said.

In a memo released last week, Cole, who is running to succeed Reynolds at the NRCC, expanded on that strategy. The memo recommended that vulnerable incumbents spend $20,000 on a research "package" to find damaging material about challengers and urged that they "define your opponent immediately and unrelentingly."

In a Pivotal Year, GOP Plans to Get Personal

You do understand opposition research is intended to vet an opponent, not a private citizen who simply donated to a candidate, right???

Obama is taking this too far.

What will he try next???

Seems to me that there's more at stake here than just the White House. Seems to me that someone is counting on much more than that, and Romney could put a stop to their plans. That is the only reason I feel Obama would take a chance like this.

 

[theDoctorisIn]

uhm not quite-

On June 22, 2004, after receiving a report from the referee, Judge Schnider released the files that were deemed consistent with the interests of Ryan's young child. In those files, Jeri Ryan alleged that Jack Ryan had asked her to perform sexual acts with him in public in sex clubs in New York, New Orleans, and Paris. Jeri Ryan described one as "a bizarre club with cages, whips and other apparatus hanging from the ceiling."[1][12]

The decision to release these files generated much controversy because it went against both parents' direct request, and because it reversed the earlier decision to seal the papers in the best interest of the child. Jim Oberweis, Ryan's defeated GOP opponent, commented that "these are allegations made in a divorce hearing, and we all know people tend to say things that aren't necessarily true in divorce proceedings when there is money involved and custody of children involved."[1]

and just for the heck of it-

Subsequent to his withdrawal from the U.S. Senate race in Illinois, Jack Ryan has characterized what happened to him as a "new low for politics in America".[17] According to Ryan, it was unprecedented in American politics for a newspaper to sue for access to sealed custody documents. Ryan opposed unsealing the divorce records of Senator John Kerry during Kerry's race against George W. Bush in 2004, and Kerry's divorce records remained sealed. Ryan has made the following request: "let me be the only person this has happened to. Don’t ask for Ted Kennedy’s. Don’t ask for John McCain’s. Don’t ask for Joe Lieberman’s. Just stop. This is not a good precedent for American society if you really want the best and brightest to run."[17]

Jack Ryan (politician) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I got it from the wikipedia page:

Both Ryan and his wife agreed to make their divorce records public, but not make the custody records public, claiming that the custody records could be harmful to their son if released.

I'm not sure, I'm trying to find another source.

yes I saw it , yet there is a difference between what they did or didn't want unsealed...they both said they didn't want that out...(?)


you do know axlerod got leaked copies right? he sent folks or that is the Tribune ( , sent folks to cali to dig the dirt and make the request.

I'm not trying to claim that Obama didn't run a dirty campaign - of course he did.

EVERY campaign gets dirty.

No one who follows politics took "Hope and Change" seriously.

 

[daveman]

I have one instance in the LAST century (please try and keep up) that was significant enough to force a sitting president to resign. Rove was caught pulling so many dirty tricks, Axlerod would have to go to another 20 years of school to come close to catching up. You do know that Rove cut his teeth doing dirty tricks for Nixon, don't you.

Now if you want a filthy example of going after a civilian, I suggest you recall Valerie Plame and her husband.

That was a reporter, you moron, not the Bush Administration. Stop lying.

Dave, your lying is amazing. The Vice-President's Chief of Staff was tried and convicted for lying that he was one of the people responsible for that leak. Do you need a link for that too? I know how lazy you can be.

Yeah, you retards were hoping to get a Bush or Rove perp walk for Fitzmas.

You got a secretary.

Nevertheless, I was wrong -- it was Armitage from State who outed Plame.

And where did he hear it?

From Joe Wilson.

June 2003: According to the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, the following interview with Richard Armitage at the State Department transpired "about a month before" Robert Novak’s column appeared on July 14, 2003.

Woodward: Well it was Joe Wilson who was sent by the agency, isn’t it?
Armitage: His wife works for the agency.
Woodward: Why doesn’t that come out? Why does that have to be a big secret?
Armitage: (over) Everybody knows it.
Woodward: Everyone knows?
Armitage: Yeah. And they know ’cause Joe Wilson’s been calling everybody. He’s pissed off ’cause he was designated as a low level guy went out to look at it. So he’s all pissed off.
Woodward: But why would they send him?
Armitage: Because his wife’s an analyst at the agency.
Woodward: It’s still weird.
Armitage: He – he’s perfect. She – she, this is what she does. She’s a WMD analyst out there.
Woodward: Oh, she is.
Armitage: (over) Yeah.
Woodward: Oh, I see. I didn’t think…
Armitage: (over) "I know who’ll look at it." Yeah, see?
Woodward: Oh. She’s the chief WMD…?
Armitage: No. She’s not the…
Woodward: But high enough up that she could say, "oh, yeah, hubby will go."
Armitage: Yeah. She knows [garbled].
Woodward: Was she out there with him, when he was…?
Armitage: (over) No, not to my knowledge. I don’t know if she was out there. But his wife’s in the agency as a WMD analyst. How about that?​

Stop believing leftist bullshit.

 

[Salt Jones]

A little knowledge for you clueless conservatives. A sample from 2006:

"Opposition research is power," said Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (N.Y.), the NRCC chairman. "Opposition research is the key to defining untested opponents."

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, has enlisted veteran party strategist Terry Nelson to run a campaign that will coordinate with Senate Republicans on ads that similarly will rely on the best of the worst that researchers have dug up on Democrats. The first ad run by the new RNC effort criticizes Ohio Rep. Sherrod Brown (D) for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

Because challengers tend to be little-known compared with incumbents, they are more vulnerable to having their public image framed by the opposition through attacks and unflattering personal revelations.

And with polls showing the Republicans' House and Senate majorities in jeopardy, party strategists said they have concluded that their best chance to prevent big Democratic gains is a television and direct-mail blitz over the next eight weeks aimed at raising enough questions about Democratic candidates that voters decide they are unacceptable choices.

"When you run in an adverse political environment, you try to localize and personalize the race as much as you can," Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said.

In a memo released last week, Cole, who is running to succeed Reynolds at the NRCC, expanded on that strategy. The memo recommended that vulnerable incumbents spend $20,000 on a research "package" to find damaging material about challengers and urged that they "define your opponent immediately and unrelentingly."

In a Pivotal Year, GOP Plans to Get Personal

You do understand opposition research is intended to vet an opponent, not a private citizen who simply donated to a candidate, right???

Obama is taking this too far.

What will he try next???

George Soros wasn't op researched by the republicans in 2008? Grow the **** up. Do you study the history of American Politics or do you just write bs posts on a forum?

 

[Dick Tuck]

Do you mean there's opposition research and dirty tricks in politics? I'm shocked!

Casablanca gambling? I'm shocked! - YouTube

I don't want a government that has to win by doing this.

Far as I'm concerned it's totally unethical....if not criminal.

Next thing they'll be doing is kicking down their doors.

This kind of thing goes on in Russia, but it shouldn't be going on in America.

Except it's not the government doing it. It's a private detective, who may or may not have been hired by a campaign. If it were FBI agents doing it, you'd have an argument. You're still naive to believe that opposition research is something new or unique.

You don't think Mitt is above using dirty tricks and lies, do you?

Romney, Dirty Tricks Edition - Talking Politics

 

[Salt Jones]

That was a reporter, you moron, not the Bush Administration. Stop lying.

Dave, your lying is amazing. The Vice-President's Chief of Staff was tried and convicted for lying that he was one of the people responsible for that leak. Do you need a link for that too? I know how lazy you can be.

Yeah, you retards were hoping to get a Bush or Rove perp walk for Fitzmas.

You got a secretary.

Nevertheless, I was wrong -- it was Armitage from State who outed Plame.

And where did he hear it?

From Joe Wilson.

June 2003: According to the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, the following interview with Richard Armitage at the State Department transpired "about a month before" Robert Novak’s column appeared on July 14, 2003.

Woodward: Well it was Joe Wilson who was sent by the agency, isn’t it?
Armitage: His wife works for the agency.
Woodward: Why doesn’t that come out? Why does that have to be a big secret?
Armitage: (over) Everybody knows it.
Woodward: Everyone knows?
Armitage: Yeah. And they know ’cause Joe Wilson’s been calling everybody. He’s pissed off ’cause he was designated as a low level guy went out to look at it. So he’s all pissed off.
Woodward: But why would they send him?
Armitage: Because his wife’s an analyst at the agency.
Woodward: It’s still weird.
Armitage: He – he’s perfect. She – she, this is what she does. She’s a WMD analyst out there.
Woodward: Oh, she is.
Armitage: (over) Yeah.
Woodward: Oh, I see. I didn’t think…
Armitage: (over) "I know who’ll look at it." Yeah, see?
Woodward: Oh. She’s the chief WMD…?
Armitage: No. She’s not the…
Woodward: But high enough up that she could say, "oh, yeah, hubby will go."
Armitage: Yeah. She knows [garbled].
Woodward: Was she out there with him, when he was…?
Armitage: (over) No, not to my knowledge. I don’t know if she was out there. But his wife’s in the agency as a WMD analyst. How about that?​

Stop believing leftist bullshit.

"Opposition research is power," said Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (N.Y.), the NRCC chairman. "Opposition research is the key to defining untested opponents."

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, has enlisted veteran party strategist Terry Nelson to run a campaign that will coordinate with Senate Republicans on ads that similarly will rely on the best of the worst that researchers have dug up on Democrats. The first ad run by the new RNC effort criticizes Ohio Rep. Sherrod Brown (D) for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

Because challengers tend to be little-known compared with incumbents, they are more vulnerable to having their public image framed by the opposition through attacks and unflattering personal revelations.

And with polls showing the Republicans' House and Senate majorities in jeopardy, party strategists said they have concluded that their best chance to prevent big Democratic gains is a television and direct-mail blitz over the next eight weeks aimed at raising enough questions about Democratic candidates that voters decide they are unacceptable choices.

"When you run in an adverse political environment, you try to localize and personalize the race as much as you can," Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said.

In a Pivotal Year, GOP Plans to Get Personal

Opposition research is good politics.

 

[mudwhistle]

It's good old American politics. If you can't take the heat, get out of the kitchen.

oh, right, in other words its all good as long as my man is doing it.....ahhh whither has fled that visionary gleam? were is it now, the glory and the dream?

hope and change baby.

I never believed in hope or change. I believe in the art of American politics, the cutthroat politics that has been with this country since the beginning of the republic. Winning and shaping the country in your image is all that matters. Haven't you ever studied the histiroy of American politics?

You also believe in throwing ****** in ovens.

 

[Dick Tuck]

That was a reporter, you moron, not the Bush Administration. Stop lying.

Dave, your lying is amazing. The Vice-President's Chief of Staff was tried and convicted for lying that he was one of the people responsible for that leak. Do you need a link for that too? I know how lazy you can be.

Yeah, you retards were hoping to get a Bush or Rove perp walk for Fitzmas.

You got a secretary.

Nevertheless, I was wrong -- it was Armitage from State who outed Plame.

And where did he hear it?

From Joe Wilson.

June 2003: According to the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, the following interview with Richard Armitage at the State Department transpired "about a month before" Robert Novak’s column appeared on July 14, 2003.

Woodward: Well it was Joe Wilson who was sent by the agency, isn’t it?
Armitage: His wife works for the agency.
Woodward: Why doesn’t that come out? Why does that have to be a big secret?
Armitage: (over) Everybody knows it.
Woodward: Everyone knows?
Armitage: Yeah. And they know ’cause Joe Wilson’s been calling everybody. He’s pissed off ’cause he was designated as a low level guy went out to look at it. So he’s all pissed off.
Woodward: But why would they send him?
Armitage: Because his wife’s an analyst at the agency.
Woodward: It’s still weird.
Armitage: He – he’s perfect. She – she, this is what she does. She’s a WMD analyst out there.
Woodward: Oh, she is.
Armitage: (over) Yeah.
Woodward: Oh, I see. I didn’t think…
Armitage: (over) "I know who’ll look at it." Yeah, see?
Woodward: Oh. She’s the chief WMD…?
Armitage: No. She’s not the…
Woodward: But high enough up that she could say, "oh, yeah, hubby will go."
Armitage: Yeah. She knows [garbled].
Woodward: Was she out there with him, when he was…?
Armitage: (over) No, not to my knowledge. I don’t know if she was out there. But his wife’s in the agency as a WMD analyst. How about that?​

Stop believing leftist bullshit.

Vice President Cheney's Chief of Staff was tried and convicted for lying about his role in the leak. Lie on, Dave. It's making you look like an ignorant hack.

 

[mudwhistle]

A little knowledge for you clueless conservatives. A sample from 2006:

"Opposition research is power," said Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (N.Y.), the NRCC chairman. "Opposition research is the key to defining untested opponents."

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, has enlisted veteran party strategist Terry Nelson to run a campaign that will coordinate with Senate Republicans on ads that similarly will rely on the best of the worst that researchers have dug up on Democrats. The first ad run by the new RNC effort criticizes Ohio Rep. Sherrod Brown (D) for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

Because challengers tend to be little-known compared with incumbents, they are more vulnerable to having their public image framed by the opposition through attacks and unflattering personal revelations.

And with polls showing the Republicans' House and Senate majorities in jeopardy, party strategists said they have concluded that their best chance to prevent big Democratic gains is a television and direct-mail blitz over the next eight weeks aimed at raising enough questions about Democratic candidates that voters decide they are unacceptable choices.

"When you run in an adverse political environment, you try to localize and personalize the race as much as you can," Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said.

In a memo released last week, Cole, who is running to succeed Reynolds at the NRCC, expanded on that strategy. The memo recommended that vulnerable incumbents spend $20,000 on a research "package" to find damaging material about challengers and urged that they "define your opponent immediately and unrelentingly."

In a Pivotal Year, GOP Plans to Get Personal

You do understand opposition research is intended to vet an opponent, not a private citizen who simply donated to a candidate, right???

Obama is taking this too far.

What will he try next???

George Soros wasn't op researched by the republicans in 2008? Grow the **** up. Do you study the history of American Politics or do you just write bs posts on a forum?

Nope.....that's your job.

I'm not as cynical as you are.

And this has nothing to do with growing up.

You get the kind of government you deserve. If you accept this then you deserve the reaming they'll eventually be administering to you on a personal level. Then whining about it won't help because it'll be too late.

 

[Salt Jones]

You do understand opposition research is intended to vet an opponent, not a private citizen who simply donated to a candidate, right???

Obama is taking this too far.

What will he try next???

George Soros wasn't op researched by the republicans in 2008? Grow the **** up. Do you study the history of American Politics or do you just write bs posts on a forum?

Nope.....that's your job.

I'm not as cynical as you are.

And this has nothing to do with growing up.

You get the kind of government you deserve. If you accept this then you deserve the reaming they'll eventually be administering to you on a personal level. Then whining about it won't help because it'll be too late.

Get a clue:

"Digging up dirt and highlighting unflattering aspects of the opposition’s life have a long political history. In the 1828 presidential election, Andrew Jackson’s opponents unearthed his marriage records, seeking to imply that the hero of the Battle of New Orleans was an adulterer for marrying Rachel Robards in 1791 before she was legally divorced from her first husband. Jackson won the White House over President John Quincy Adams anyway, avenging a bitter loss four years earlier. But the opposition researchers’ work may have taken a toll: Rachel died shortly before Jackson took office—a result, he contended, of the stress of having her honor called into question."

Digging for Dirt - Politics & Personalities - Washingtonian

P.S. Karma doesn't exist.

 

[daveman]

Dave, your lying is amazing. The Vice-President's Chief of Staff was tried and convicted for lying that he was one of the people responsible for that leak. Do you need a link for that too? I know how lazy you can be.

Yeah, you retards were hoping to get a Bush or Rove perp walk for Fitzmas.

You got a secretary.

Nevertheless, I was wrong -- it was Armitage from State who outed Plame.

And where did he hear it?

From Joe Wilson.

June 2003: According to the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, the following interview with Richard Armitage at the State Department transpired "about a month before" Robert Novak’s column appeared on July 14, 2003.

Woodward: Well it was Joe Wilson who was sent by the agency, isn’t it?
Armitage: His wife works for the agency.
Woodward: Why doesn’t that come out? Why does that have to be a big secret?
Armitage: (over) Everybody knows it.
Woodward: Everyone knows?
Armitage: Yeah. And they know ’cause Joe Wilson’s been calling everybody. He’s pissed off ’cause he was designated as a low level guy went out to look at it. So he’s all pissed off.
Woodward: But why would they send him?
Armitage: Because his wife’s an analyst at the agency.
Woodward: It’s still weird.
Armitage: He – he’s perfect. She – she, this is what she does. She’s a WMD analyst out there.
Woodward: Oh, she is.
Armitage: (over) Yeah.
Woodward: Oh, I see. I didn’t think…
Armitage: (over) "I know who’ll look at it." Yeah, see?
Woodward: Oh. She’s the chief WMD…?
Armitage: No. She’s not the…
Woodward: But high enough up that she could say, "oh, yeah, hubby will go."
Armitage: Yeah. She knows [garbled].
Woodward: Was she out there with him, when he was…?
Armitage: (over) No, not to my knowledge. I don’t know if she was out there. But his wife’s in the agency as a WMD analyst. How about that?​

Stop believing leftist bullshit.

"Opposition research is power," said Rep. Thomas M. Reynolds (N.Y.), the NRCC chairman. "Opposition research is the key to defining untested opponents."

The Republican National Committee, meanwhile, has enlisted veteran party strategist Terry Nelson to run a campaign that will coordinate with Senate Republicans on ads that similarly will rely on the best of the worst that researchers have dug up on Democrats. The first ad run by the new RNC effort criticizes Ohio Rep. Sherrod Brown (D) for voting against proposals designed to toughen border protection and deport illegal immigrants.

Because challengers tend to be little-known compared with incumbents, they are more vulnerable to having their public image framed by the opposition through attacks and unflattering personal revelations.

And with polls showing the Republicans' House and Senate majorities in jeopardy, party strategists said they have concluded that their best chance to prevent big Democratic gains is a television and direct-mail blitz over the next eight weeks aimed at raising enough questions about Democratic candidates that voters decide they are unacceptable choices.

"When you run in an adverse political environment, you try to localize and personalize the race as much as you can," Rep. Tom Cole (R-Okla.) said.

In a Pivotal Year, GOP Plans to Get Personal

Opposition research is good politics.

When you're researching politicians.

Not private citizens.

 

[daveman]

Dave, your lying is amazing. The Vice-President's Chief of Staff was tried and convicted for lying that he was one of the people responsible for that leak. Do you need a link for that too? I know how lazy you can be.

Yeah, you retards were hoping to get a Bush or Rove perp walk for Fitzmas.

You got a secretary.

Nevertheless, I was wrong -- it was Armitage from State who outed Plame.

And where did he hear it?

From Joe Wilson.

June 2003: According to the Washington Post’s Bob Woodward, the following interview with Richard Armitage at the State Department transpired "about a month before" Robert Novak’s column appeared on July 14, 2003.

Woodward: Well it was Joe Wilson who was sent by the agency, isn’t it?
Armitage: His wife works for the agency.
Woodward: Why doesn’t that come out? Why does that have to be a big secret?
Armitage: (over) Everybody knows it.
Woodward: Everyone knows?
Armitage: Yeah. And they know ’cause Joe Wilson’s been calling everybody. He’s pissed off ’cause he was designated as a low level guy went out to look at it. So he’s all pissed off.
Woodward: But why would they send him?
Armitage: Because his wife’s an analyst at the agency.
Woodward: It’s still weird.
Armitage: He – he’s perfect. She – she, this is what she does. She’s a WMD analyst out there.
Woodward: Oh, she is.
Armitage: (over) Yeah.
Woodward: Oh, I see. I didn’t think…
Armitage: (over) "I know who’ll look at it." Yeah, see?
Woodward: Oh. She’s the chief WMD…?
Armitage: No. She’s not the…
Woodward: But high enough up that she could say, "oh, yeah, hubby will go."
Armitage: Yeah. She knows [garbled].
Woodward: Was she out there with him, when he was…?
Armitage: (over) No, not to my knowledge. I don’t know if she was out there. But his wife’s in the agency as a WMD analyst. How about that?​

Stop believing leftist bullshit.

Vice President Cheney's Chief of Staff was tried and convicted for lying about his role in the leak. Lie on, Dave. It's making you look like an ignorant hack.

...except the White House had no role in the leak.

Leftist wet dreams are not reality.