President-"Elect" Joe Biden!

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And you’ll have the opportunity to vote against Biden in 2024 if you oppose his policies.
I'm sure you'll cast a vote to re-elect President Xarris in 2024 unless you're sense of smell is gone entirely. Xiden is highly unlikely to (a) survive until 2024 or (b) be anywhere other than safely tucked away in a laughing academy.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
And you’ll have the opportunity to vote against Biden in 2024 if you oppose his policies.
Never have a problem with devastation in blue areas again. Ph uk U!
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
I agree and it needs to end now.

Spending trillions to relieve student debt puts the US debt even in worse shape. We don’t have the money, even if you tax 100% of wage earners 100% of their income.
We don't have the money to bail out farmers either.
We don't have the money to have endless re-counts of a long-ago settled election either.
We don't have the money to build yet another air craft carrier, the new destroyers, and new subs either.

At least this bail out will invigorate the economy by giving millions more spending monies.
No, we need to cut spending all across the board. We need to raise taxes on everyone and end corporate welfare, say goodbye to subsidies. Cut defense, social services, you don’t reward people that had no common sense and borrowed beyond their means. You raise taxes all across the board. Cut government waste and start running the country smarter. We need the entire system not to look to the government for bailouts.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
I agree and it needs to end now.

Spending trillions to relieve student debt puts the US debt even in worse shape. We don’t have the money, even if you tax 100% of wage earners 100% of their income.
We don't have the money to bail out farmers either.
We don't have the money to have endless re-counts of a long-ago settled election either.
We don't have the money to build yet another air craft carrier, the new destroyers, and new subs either.

At least this bail out will invigorate the economy by giving millions more spending monies.
No, we need to cut spending all across the board. We need to raise taxes on everyone and end corporate welfare, say goodbye to subsidies. Cut defense, social services, you don’t reward people that had no common sense and borrowed beyond their means. You raise taxes all across the board. Cut government waste and start running the country smarter. We need the entire system not to look to the government for bailouts.
Get any major party figure to endorse that (along with a long needed tax increase) and we'll talk.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
I'm your bank. I lend you $10. You have to pay me back. I say forget it. Instead of paying me back, you buy a pizza. The Government gives me the $10.00 instead. You have a pizza and I have $10.00.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
I'm your bank. I lend you $10. You have to pay me back. I say forget it. Instead of paying me back, you buy a pizza. The Government gives me the $10.00 instead. You have a pizza and I have $10.00.
my god youre a dumb mother fucker,,,
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
Did you complain even once during the last fiscal year when Impeached Trump gave us our first $4 trillion deficit?
Congress and Trump added to the debt. It takes two.
Tell that to the poster I responded to as he's blaming Biden for generating debt he hasn't generated.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
I agree and it needs to end now.

Spending trillions to relieve student debt puts the US debt even in worse shape. We don’t have the money, even if you tax 100% of wage earners 100% of their income.
We don't have the money to bail out farmers either.
We don't have the money to have endless re-counts of a long-ago settled election either.
We don't have the money to build yet another air craft carrier, the new destroyers, and new subs either.

At least this bail out will invigorate the economy by giving millions more spending monies.
No, we need to cut spending all across the board. We need to raise taxes on everyone and end corporate welfare, say goodbye to subsidies. Cut defense, social services, you don’t reward people that had no common sense and borrowed beyond their means. You raise taxes all across the board. Cut government waste and start running the country smarter. We need the entire system not to look to the government for bailouts.
Get any major party figure to endorse that (along with a long needed tax increase) and we'll talk.
You never will because the is too hard and politicians want the easy re-electable way. American voters want easy and painless ways to get rid of debt, no such thing. Let the people that took out these stupid loans pay them back and stop loaning money to people that can’t pay them back. Problem solved.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
Did you complain even once during the last fiscal year when Impeached Trump gave us our first $4 trillion deficit?
Congress and Trump added to the debt. It takes two.
Tell that to the poster I responded to as he's blaming Biden for generating debt he hasn't generated.
Biden and Congress will add trillions more, I know that will happen.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
I'm your bank. I lend you $10. You have to pay me back. I say forget it. Instead of paying me back, you buy a pizza. The Government gives me the $10.00 instead. You have a pizza and I have $10.00.
my god youre a dumb mother fucker,,,
If you're going to talk to God, perhaps you and her should have a conversation outside of the message board.

I'm sorry you're so frustrated. Essentially you're just an angry blob supporter who is frustrated that the norms he broke are now going to be the new rules Biden exploits. Fuck your feelings.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
I'm your bank. I lend you $10. You have to pay me back. I say forget it. Instead of paying me back, you buy a pizza. The Government gives me the $10.00 instead. You have a pizza and I have $10.00.
And the government goes deeper in debt.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
I agree and it needs to end now.

Spending trillions to relieve student debt puts the US debt even in worse shape. We don’t have the money, even if you tax 100% of wage earners 100% of their income.
We don't have the money to bail out farmers either.
We don't have the money to have endless re-counts of a long-ago settled election either.
We don't have the money to build yet another air craft carrier, the new destroyers, and new subs either.

At least this bail out will invigorate the economy by giving millions more spending monies.
No, we need to cut spending all across the board. We need to raise taxes on everyone and end corporate welfare, say goodbye to subsidies. Cut defense, social services, you don’t reward people that had no common sense and borrowed beyond their means. You raise taxes all across the board. Cut government waste and start running the country smarter. We need the entire system not to look to the government for bailouts.
Get any major party figure to endorse that (along with a long needed tax increase) and we'll talk.
You never will because the is too hard and politicians want the easy re-electable way. American voters want easy and painless ways to get rid of debt, no such thing. Let the people that took out these stupid loans pay them back and stop loaning money to people that can’t pay them back. Problem solved.
Oh you mean personal responsibility. If we had billionaires paying their fair share of taxes instead of $750...maybe our debt wouldn't be what it is. Just a thought.
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
I'm your bank. I lend you $10. You have to pay me back. I say forget it. Instead of paying me back, you buy a pizza. The Government gives me the $10.00 instead. You have a pizza and I have $10.00.
my god youre a dumb mother fucker,,,
If you're going to talk to God, perhaps you and her should have a conversation outside of the message board.

I'm sorry you're so frustrated. Essentially you're just an angry blob supporter who is frustrated that the norms he broke are now going to be the new rules Biden exploits. Fuck your feelings.
hate to break it to you buttercup but I didnt vote for trump,,, but I am defending the constitution that you so gracefully spit on time and time again,,,
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
I'm your bank. I lend you $10. You have to pay me back. I say forget it. Instead of paying me back, you buy a pizza. The Government gives me the $10.00 instead. You have a pizza and I have $10.00.
And the government goes deeper in debt.
Sure. Thats the bargain we made long ago. Are we going to start caring about deficits again?
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,

why is that so hard to understand,,,
Its guaranteed by the government....not sure why you can't understand that. Thus it's a pending national emergency....Biden should act. Erase it all. put $1.7 T back into the economy where it can create jobs and wealth instead of just giving it to the banks. LOL

they didnt have authority to do it in the first place ,,,
and how does that put it back into the economy when its erased from the ledgers???
I'm your bank. I lend you $10. You have to pay me back. I say forget it. Instead of paying me back, you buy a pizza. The Government gives me the $10.00 instead. You have a pizza and I have $10.00.
my god youre a dumb mother fucker,,,
If you're going to talk to God, perhaps you and her should have a conversation outside of the message board.

I'm sorry you're so frustrated. Essentially you're just an angry blob supporter who is frustrated that the norms he broke are now going to be the new rules Biden exploits. Fuck your feelings.
hate to break it to you buttercup but I didnt vote for trump,,, but I am defending the constitution that you so gracefully spit on time and time again,,,
Now that's funny. Sure....
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
I agree and it needs to end now.

Spending trillions to relieve student debt puts the US debt even in worse shape. We don’t have the money, even if you tax 100% of wage earners 100% of their income.
We don't have the money to bail out farmers either.
We don't have the money to have endless re-counts of a long-ago settled election either.
We don't have the money to build yet another air craft carrier, the new destroyers, and new subs either.

At least this bail out will invigorate the economy by giving millions more spending monies.
No, we need to cut spending all across the board. We need to raise taxes on everyone and end corporate welfare, say goodbye to subsidies. Cut defense, social services, you don’t reward people that had no common sense and borrowed beyond their means. You raise taxes all across the board. Cut government waste and start running the country smarter. We need the entire system not to look to the government for bailouts.
Get any major party figure to endorse that (along with a long needed tax increase) and we'll talk.
You never will because the is too hard and politicians want the easy re-electable way. American voters want easy and painless ways to get rid of debt, no such thing. Let the people that took out these stupid loans pay them back and stop loaning money to people that can’t pay them back. Problem solved.
Oh you mean personal responsibility. If we had billionaires paying their fair share of taxes instead of $750...maybe our debt wouldn't be what it is. Just a thought.
billionaires pay far beyond their fair share,,,

in fact trump has paid more than any hundred average people pay in their lifetimes,,,
 

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President-"Elect" Joe Biden will not take office until January 20th, of next year but people are already upset at what he's doing and WHY he is not waiting until once he’s sworn in to even discuss it!
. One possible agenda item for Biden’s first day involves the student loan debt crisis. With student loan debt currently standing at over $1.7 trillion nationally, lets hope that our country is not bankrupt in the first 100 days of his presidency!
He can just divert money from Defense to pay for it.

Presidents can do that, right?
not if it doesnt have to do with national defense,,,
Crushing debt is a national security issue.... Much more so if a landscaper is crossing the border to cut grass.
If has nothing to do with national defense, you are stretching and the Supreme Court would vote against it. As Trump found out, just because you are President, it doesn’t mean you can do what you please. Thank goodness for the three branches.
Neither does the wall...
So two wrongs make a right?
Never.

But we'll wait for the next Republican to adhere to that principle. You good with that?
I’m not fine with that, being stupid is never a great idea to act stupid, in fact it is dangerous. Look at all the damn executive orders by the last several Presidents. Look at our debt issues. Watch Republicans become deficit hawks now. They should have been that way for decades and when events like 911 and the Covid-19 come around we have room to go into debt. Stupid, moronic, partisan politics is what is getting us into trouble and stupid, morons supporting such stupidity is just adding to the problems. We are digging our own grave. Time for this to stop and turn around. I really hate partisan Republicans and Democrats.
It would be great if we could change the rules so such shenanigans would not happen any more.
The rules are there, they aren’t enforced. This is allowing the rules to be stretched, just like you are wanting to do with the defense money. It should not be allowed nor should money allocated for other projects not have been allowed for the wall. Biden should not have EO’d the Dream Act, nor should SSI money be diverted to other funds. There are laws in place but we see no enforcement, we see justification.

We need Republicans and Democrats stand up for the three branches of government. That is why I hate both parties, they put politics over party.
When the Excecutive (the branch that is supposed to enforce the rules) is the one that breaks the rules....
what rule was broken???
Congress allocated money to programs listed on a bill it voted on.
Not to build a silly wall with that money.
but its POTUS job to determine national security issues,,,

sorry but you failed again,,,
And Biden can make that determination....massive debt is a national security issue.

Welcome back to square one. Hope you enjoyed your ride.
private debt isnt a governmental issue,,,
Usually the government backs guaranteed student loans:

It doesn’t mean the government pays them. It usually means, if you default the government goes after you to collect
Hence the national emergency....trillions in outstanding debt to collect potentially.

Hey, I think it's BS too...

BUT if we allow Presidents to deem what is and isn't an emergency and shift congressionally allocated monies around based on it....as the blob did....this is what we have to face.
I agree and it needs to end now.

Spending trillions to relieve student debt puts the US debt even in worse shape. We don’t have the money, even if you tax 100% of wage earners 100% of their income.
We don't have the money to bail out farmers either.
We don't have the money to have endless re-counts of a long-ago settled election either.
We don't have the money to build yet another air craft carrier, the new destroyers, and new subs either.

At least this bail out will invigorate the economy by giving millions more spending monies.
No, we need to cut spending all across the board. We need to raise taxes on everyone and end corporate welfare, say goodbye to subsidies. Cut defense, social services, you don’t reward people that had no common sense and borrowed beyond their means. You raise taxes all across the board. Cut government waste and start running the country smarter. We need the entire system not to look to the government for bailouts.
Get any major party figure to endorse that (along with a long needed tax increase) and we'll talk.
You never will because the is too hard and politicians want the easy re-electable way. American voters want easy and painless ways to get rid of debt, no such thing. Let the people that took out these stupid loans pay them back and stop loaning money to people that can’t pay them back. Problem solved.
Oh you mean personal responsibility. If we had billionaires paying their fair share of taxes instead of $750...maybe our debt wouldn't be what it is. Just a thought.
And if you had a Congress, that we elected, that didn’t give loopholes to the billionaires, they would pay their fair share, the government is to blame for the problem, they are the ones allowing the loopholes. We have to go back to Reagan and Foley, they were the last two that worked out getting rid of loopholes and since then, Democrats and Republicans have added the loopholes back.
 

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