President Barack Obama wins Nobel Peace Prize

[DiveCon]

If they did, all hell is about to break loose in Afghanistan!

Immie

PS: I think I am about to get in BIG trouble!

Watch as a hailstorm of insults barrage you for using logic.

i think you missed his sarcastic point
LOL

 

[maineman]

people fail to acknowledge that the prize committee may have received Obama's nomination by 1 FEB 09, but they are, in no way, constrained from considering all his accomplishments after that date and before the date that they announced their decision.

 

[Modbert]

i think you missed his sarcastic point
LOL

Not at all, I was making a sarcastic point too directed at a certain someone or two.

 

[elvis]

people fail to acknowledge that the prize committee may have received Obama's nomination by 1 FEB 09, but they are, in no way, constrained from considering all his accomplishments after that date and before the date that they announced their decision.

care to list those accomplishments and then compare them to the runner-up? and afterwards have the audacity to defend their decision?

 

[oreo]

well yeah. there were deals cut long before pearl harbor where the US would get bases IN Europe in return for supplying Britain. What does that tell you?

That tells me that one way or another, we were going into WWII. Which is why the theory that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor but did nothing about it always arises.

Just for your information we already went through WW11-- If you can read English you can turn to a history book-& actualy LEARN that-we were attacked on 12/07/1941 at Pearl Harbor--

Of course, I wouldn't expect anyone who was an Obamalong to actually KNOW that--

 

[The T]

BS!

He's already won the award. He's a lame duck. Now he can do whatever the F! he wants and screw the NPP committee.

Immie

Disagree. Sure he has the AWARD, and has accpted it. But what you seem to have missed is Obama's very own Comments...

OBAMA: I am both surprised and deeply humbled by the decision of the Nobel committee

OBAMA: -- recognition of my own accomplishments, but rather as an affirmation of American leadership on behalf of aspirations held by people in all nations. To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who have been honored by this prize.

***And the ASS KICKER***

OBAMA: Throughout history, the Nobel Peace Prize has not just been used to honor specific achievement, it's also been used as a means to give momentum to a set of causes, and that is why I will accept this award as a call to action, a call for all nations to confront the common challenges of the twenty-first century. These challenges can't be met by any one leader or any one nation. That's why my administration's worked to establish a new era of engagement in which all nations must take responsibility for the world we seek.

_________________
To the FIRST emboldened?

According to NOBEL's WILL?

When Alfred Nobel died on December 10, 1896, it was discovered that he had left a will, dated November 27, 1895, according to which most of his vast wealth was to be used for five prizes, including one for peace. The prize for peace was to be awarded to the person who "shall have done the most or the best work for fraternity between nations, for the abolition or reduction of standing armies and for the holding of peace congresses."

Had OBAMA done such a thing only 12 DAYS into office from his Immacculation?

I hardly THINK SO.

Seems that OBAMA's acceptance of this AWARD, and that of Mr. NOBEL are at odds...eh?

Again? OBAMA has been placed in a StraightJacket. Even by his own admission.

He is a politician and you believe him?

I must say T, I thought you knew better than that.

Immie

By the mere fact that I highlighted it says that I Do understand it, and don't trust the NOBEL Committe for giving it to the Bamster, nor do I Trust the Bamster for accepting it.

It's Convoluted, and perverted on both ends of this spectrum

 

[Immanuel]

people fail to acknowledge that the prize committee may have received Obama's nomination by 1 FEB 09, but they are, in no way, constrained from considering all his accomplishments after that date and before the date that they announced their decision.

Good to see you old friend, but I don't think that is fair to say in the least. The fact of the matter is as I see it, that he should not have been nominated for the prize nor considered for it after 12 days in office.

My guess is that you have not seen my other posts, but I truly believe he might have been worthy of such an award at least one year later, but not so soon.

Regardless, I continue to pray for his success.

Immie

 

[elvis]

well yeah. there were deals cut long before pearl harbor where the US would get bases IN Europe in return for supplying Britain. What does that tell you?

That tells me that one way or another, we were going into WWII. Which is why the theory that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor but did nothing about it always arises.

Just for your information we already went through WW11-- You maybe if you turn to a history book- LEARN that-we were attacked on 12/07/1941 at Pearl Harbor--

Of course, I wouldn't expect anyone who was an Obamalong to actually KNOW that--

but there were arms for bases deals between England and the US prior to pearl harbor, in which the US would get bases in mainland Europe if we supplied England.

 

[Immanuel]

i think you missed his sarcastic point
LOL

Not at all, I was making a sarcastic point too directed at a certain someone or two.

And when I finally finished reading all the other posts, I saw that. But, do you mind if I make that into a quote and attribute it to you for my own safety?

Immie

 

[Modbert]

well yeah. there were deals cut long before pearl harbor where the US would get bases IN Europe in return for supplying Britain. What does that tell you?

That tells me that one way or another, we were going into WWII. Which is why the theory that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor but did nothing about it always arises.

Just for your information we already went through WW11-- You maybe if you turn to a history book- LEARN that-we were attacked on 12/07/1941 at Pearl Harbor--

Of course, I wouldn't expect anyone who was an Obamalong to actually KNOW that--

You obviously can't read.

 

[Modbert]

but there were arms for bases deals between England and the US prior to pearl harbor, in which the US would get bases in mainland Europe if we supplied England.

Obamalong! You're worshipping at the altar of your messiah!

Don't bother Oreo with facts. His partisan hackery blinds him too much.

 

[Si modo]

How one can forget to mention Communist China when trying to claim that Viet Nam and Korea are proxy wars is also bizarre, but okie doke.

Proxy wars against the USSR, according to you, right?

Only a few handfuls of Americans died during the Cold War, so indeed it is considered a bloodless war.

Because we were talking about the USSR, not China at the time. Or at least I was with Patton.

The Proxy Wars was against the USSR but China as well. China and Russia would of never had teamed up but that was the fear of the U.S. for a long time.

Plus, if you want to talk about cause and effect, the Proxy war against the USSR gave CIA training, funds, and weapons to Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban. So the victims of 9/11 and the Afghanistan War can be considered victims of the Cold War as well.

Enough of your weaseling; it's time to grow up and be accountable for your words. It's not the end of the world to make mistakes on the internet. But, whenever I see weaseling to this extent, it does nothing for any credibility on your part.

You claimed the Viet Nam and Korea were proxy wars with the USSR. That is way too simplistic and ignoring Communist China in that equation is ignorant.

We were talking about Patton with respect to toppling USSR, yet YOU mentioned Viet Nam and Korea. Both those wars had little to do with USSR's falling.

You claimed that Viet Nam and Korea were the Cold War and as such, the Cold War involved more blood than the handfuls of American lives. No.

This is not meant to be snarky, but here is some advice - I don't care if you take it or not, but I will mention it.

If you are interested in discussion and picking up information from others (and I admit that I am projecting here because that is MY interest), let go of your defensiveness. Let go of your fear of being wrong. Let go of the idea that a 'smackdown' is a good idea.

Take it or leave it; it matters little to me as I don't consider who is posting as important as what is posted.

 

[Modbert]

And when I finally finished reading all the other posts, I saw that. But, do you mind if I make that into a quote and attribute it to you for my own safety?

Immie

You wouldn't be the first.

 

[oreo]

That tells me that one way or another, we were going into WWII. Which is why the theory that FDR knew about Pearl Harbor but did nothing about it always arises.

Just for your information we already went through WW11-- You maybe if you turn to a history book- LEARN that-we were attacked on 12/07/1941 at Pearl Harbor--

Of course, I wouldn't expect anyone who was an Obamalong to actually KNOW that--

but there were arms for bases deals between England and the US prior to pearl harbor, in which the US would get bases in mainland Europe if we supplied England.

HORSESHIT--This U.S. was in a period of isolation--we didn't want ANYTHING to do with what Nazi Germany was doing. We were suffering from the Great Depression--we had a great democrat CONSERVATIVE President--who only wanted to get this country up off it's knees.

When the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor--Winston Churchill was doing backfilps in his office. He knew that the Japanese & the Germans just bit the big one. The United States Of America.. And that was the end of them. The war was over on 12/07/1941--the very day that the Japs attacked the USA.

 

[Modbert]

Enough of your weaseling; it's time to grow up and be accountable for your words. It's not the end of the world to make mistakes on the internet. But, whenever I see weaseling to this extent, it does nothing for any credibility on your part.

You claimed the Viet Nam and Korea were proxy wars with the USSR. That is way too simplistic and ignoring Communist China in that equation is ignorant.

We were talking about Patton with respect to toppling USSR, yet YOU mentioned Viet Nam and Korea. Both those wars had little to do with USSR's falling.

You claimed that Viet Nam and Korea were the Cold War and as such, the Cold War involved more blood than the handfuls of American lives. No.

This is not meant to be snarky, but here is some advice - I don't care if you take it or not, but I will mention it.

If you are interested in discussion and picking up information from others (and I admit that I am projecting here because that is MY interest), let go of your defensiveness. Let go of your fear of being wrong. Let go of the idea that a 'smackdown' is a good idea.

Take it or leave it; it matters little to me as I don't consider who is posting as important as what is posted.

This isn't the first time that Elvis and I had discussed this topic. He will tell you firsthand that I know all about communist China into this equation. I'm not being a weasel. I referred to the Korean War originally then later Vietnam.

I never said that the Vietnam War or Korean War had anything to do with USSR's fall. I said they were part of the Proxy War between the U.S. and USSR and also the U.S. and China. The Afghanistan War however in the 80's was part of the USSR's downfall. THAT is when we supplied Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban with weapons, money, and everything else through the CIA who also trained them.

The Vietnam War and Korean War were part of the Cold War because it was Proxy wars. Those two wars would of had never gone on as long as it did if it weren't for the Russian and Chinese influence.

I'm not being defensive or anything. This is not the first time that I have discussed this on this board. I've done it plenty of times.

 

[elvis]

Just for your information we already went through WW11-- You maybe if you turn to a history book- LEARN that-we were attacked on 12/07/1941 at Pearl Harbor--

Of course, I wouldn't expect anyone who was an Obamalong to actually KNOW that--

but there were arms for bases deals between England and the US prior to pearl harbor, in which the US would get bases in mainland Europe if we supplied England.

HORSESHIT--This U.S. was in a period of isolation--we didn't want ANYTHING to do with what Nazi Germany was doing. We were suffering from the Great Depression--we had a great democrat CONSERVATIVE President--who only wanted to get this country up off it's knees.

When the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor--Winson Churchill was doing backfilps in his office. He knew that the Japanese & the Germans just bit the big one. US.

the historical documents disagree with you. the American people were isolationist, yes. as 81 percent of the country before December 7, was against getting involved the war. FDR, however, was FAR from being isolationist.

 

[Modbert]

HORSESHIT--This U.S. was in a period of isolation--we didn't want ANYTHING to do with what Nazi Germany was doing. We were suffering from the Great Depression--we had a great democrat CONSERVATIVE President--who only wanted to get this country up off it's knees.

When the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor--Winson Churchill was doing backfilps in his office. He knew that the Japanese & the Germans just bit the big one. US.

The people might of been but FDR and many in the Government weren't.

You are right on one thing though, Churchill was doing backflips in office after Pearl Harbor.

However, FDR and Churchill had deals in place like Elvis said before Pearl Harbor.

 

[The T]

but there were arms for bases deals between England and the US prior to pearl harbor, in which the US would get bases in mainland Europe if we supplied England.

HORSESHIT--This U.S. was in a period of isolation--we didn't want ANYTHING to do with what Nazi Germany was doing. We were suffering from the Great Depression--we had a great democrat CONSERVATIVE President--who only wanted to get this country up off it's knees.

When the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor--Winson Churchill was doing backfilps in his office. He knew that the Japanese & the Germans just bit the big one. US.

the historical documents disagree with you. the American people were isolationist, yes. as 81 percent of the country before December 7, was against getting involved the war. FDR, however, was FAR from being isolationist.

FDR wanted a piece of the action long before we got involved formally. The Japanese provided the excuse.

 

[elvis]

HORSESHIT--This U.S. was in a period of isolation--we didn't want ANYTHING to do with what Nazi Germany was doing. We were suffering from the Great Depression--we had a great democrat CONSERVATIVE President--who only wanted to get this country up off it's knees.

When the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor--Winson Churchill was doing backfilps in his office. He knew that the Japanese & the Germans just bit the big one. US.

the historical documents disagree with you. the American people were isolationist, yes. as 81 percent of the country before December 7, was against getting involved the war. FDR, however, was FAR from being isolationist.

FDR wanted a piece of the action long before we got involved formally. The Japanese provided the excuse.

exactly. and giving help to Britain in exchange for bases in mainland Europe tells us that he knew we'd be fighting the Germans. Otherwise, that would have been quite the gamble.

 

[Modbert]

exactly. and giving help to Britain in exchange for bases in mainland Europe tells us that he knew we'd be fighting the Germans. Otherwise, that would have been quite the gamble.

Exactly. It wasn't if we were going into WWII, it was a matter of when.