Premier Ford pitches kicking Mexico out of North American free trade pact

[shockedcanadian]

Will throwing Mexico under the bus work for Ontario?

We are in deep trouble, especially if Trump applies a "human rights tariff". Ontario might be paying 50% tariff if he does that. He could even have a committee take input from foreign citizens of all nations, let Americans know what is going on around the globe.

Ontario is a quasi-police state. If any of you are members of or condone such a vile, unaccountable, creepy covert police state, may G-d judge you accordingly. I don't think America will kick Mexico out for Canada, we had a golden opportunity and we threw it away to remain a caste system. I don't think Ford even realizes that the Third Party steel (or was it aluminum?) was being imported into America from Canada, the original source country was China.

As I've said before, if Musk had moved to Ontario instead of the United States, he'd be working in a warehouse somewhere, a government official/covert cop might be his manager.

Premier Ford pitches kicking Mexico out of North American free trade pact

The head of Canada's largest province is dipping his toe into new territory — talking about removing Mexico from the North American trade agreement.On Tuesday, Ontario Premier Doug Ford floated the idea of returning to a Canada-U.S. bilateral pact like the one that predated the enactment of...

ca.news.yahoo.com

The head of Canada's largest province is dipping his toe into new territory — talking about removing Mexico from the North American trade agreement.

On Tuesday, Ontario Premier Doug Ford floated the idea of returning to a Canada-U.S. bilateral pact like the one that predated the enactment of NAFTA in 1994.

The impetus for his comments was Donald Trump's U.S. presidential election win, a potentially game-changing event with implications for trade and security arrangements around the world.


Ford alluded to the likely difficult review ahead for the pact known in Canada as CUSMA (the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement). The agreement must be revised starting in 2026 or it will expire after a decade.

One of the greatest challenges facing that review is U.S. frustration with Chinese-owned car plants popping up in Mexico. Ford referred to those plants in a media statement.

"Free trade needs to be fair," Ford said Tuesday.

"Since signing on to the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, Mexico has allowed itself to become a backdoor for Chinese cars, auto parts and other products into Canadian and American markets, putting Canadian and American workers' livelihoods at risk while undermining our communities."

 

[JoeB131]

"Since signing on to the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, Mexico has allowed itself to become a backdoor for Chinese cars, auto parts and other products into Canadian and American markets, putting Canadian and American workers' livelihoods at risk while undermining our communities."

Okay, Mexico is already a backdoor, as you say, for German and Japanese cars.... So why get worked up about Chinese cars other than you see a Chinaman under your bed every night.

I went to my Ford dealership the other day for a minor repair and looked at the current cost of new cars.

I'm glad I don't need to replace my new car, but the kind of practical sedan I'd like to buy, they've discontinued in favor of EV's and SUVs.

So after 35 years of buying Ford Products, my next car is probably not going to be a Ford.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

I'm glad I don't need to replace my new car, but the kind of practical sedan I'd like to buy, they've discontinued in favor of EV's and SUVs.

And why is that, exactly?

 

[shockedcanadian]

Okay, Mexico is already a backdoor, as you say, for German and Japanese cars.... So why get worked up about Chinese cars other than you see a Chinaman under your bed every night.

I went to my Ford dealership the other day for a minor repair and looked at the current cost of new cars.

I'm glad I don't need to replace my new car, but the kind of practical sedan I'd like to buy, they've discontinued in favor of EV's and SUVs.

So after 35 years of buying Ford Products, my next car is probably not going to be a Ford.

Premier Ford went after China in the past too. It's not that I necessarily disagree with him, it's the hypocrisy of running a covert police state and rewarding them while relying heavily on Federal government just to stay afloat.

More than half of all of Canadas debt is from Ontario. We are a police state and we drive our best talent elsewhere who realize they are living in East Germany. There have also been big pushes to dismantle the RCMP along with other agencies and in time, Canadians will have to decide "healthcare and freedom, or an unaccountable police state and continued caste system".

These cowards interfere in peoples lives from the cradle to the grave. Relationships,, peoples careers, peoples healthcare.

If Trump hits Ontario with even a 10% tariff it we will lose hundreds of thousands of jobs to the U.S and he knows it.

As I said, apply "human right tariffs" so that not even the left can disagree with him. Allow an open forum, as Wilbur Ross did in 2016 when he reached out to companies being undermined by Chinese companies, and hear from citizens who have experienced gross violations of their G-d given rights.

Justice is served by those who celebrate the abuses of others and an unaccountable, cowardly S.I.C. Men who would NEVER step foot in Europe to fight against fascism, spit on the very graves of those who did.

 

[Foxfyre]

Will throwing Mexico under the bus work for Ontario?

We are in deep trouble, especially if Trump applies a "human rights tariff". Ontario might be paying 50% tariff if he does that. He could even have a committee take input from foreign citizens of all nations, let Americans know what is going on around the globe.

Ontario is a quasi-police state. If any of you are members of or condone such a vile, unaccountable, creepy covert police state, may G-d judge you accordingly. I don't think America will kick Mexico out for Canada, we had a golden opportunity and we threw it away to remain a caste system. I don't think Ford even realizes that the Third Party steel (or was it aluminum?) was being imported into America from Canada, the original source country was China.

As I've said before, if Musk had moved to Ontario instead of the United States, he'd be working in a warehouse somewhere, a government official/covert cop might be his manager.

Premier Ford pitches kicking Mexico out of North American free trade pact

The head of Canada's largest province is dipping his toe into new territory — talking about removing Mexico from the North American trade agreement.On Tuesday, Ontario Premier Doug Ford floated the idea of returning to a Canada-U.S. bilateral pact like the one that predated the enactment of...

ca.news.yahoo.com

The head of Canada's largest province is dipping his toe into new territory — talking about removing Mexico from the North American trade agreement.

On Tuesday, Ontario Premier Doug Ford floated the idea of returning to a Canada-U.S. bilateral pact like the one that predated the enactment of NAFTA in 1994.

The impetus for his comments was Donald Trump's U.S. presidential election win, a potentially game-changing event with implications for trade and security arrangements around the world.


Ford alluded to the likely difficult review ahead for the pact known in Canada as CUSMA (the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement). The agreement must be revised starting in 2026 or it will expire after a decade.

One of the greatest challenges facing that review is U.S. frustration with Chinese-owned car plants popping up in Mexico. Ford referred to those plants in a media statement.

"Free trade needs to be fair," Ford said Tuesday.

"Since signing on to the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, Mexico has allowed itself to become a backdoor for Chinese cars, auto parts and other products into Canadian and American markets, putting Canadian and American workers' livelihoods at risk while undermining our communities."

Canada can withdraw itself from any treaty but I don't think it can eject Mexico from a trilateral treaty. All we have to do is hold on for a little over two more months until Trump and his team take over here. Trump is a master at compromise and negotiations that accomplish win win situations for all parties. Let's give him a chance to include his input into the situation and I bet everybody can be comfortable with whatever is mutually decided.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Canada can withdraw itself from any treaty but I don't think it can eject Mexico from a trilateral treaty. All we have to do is hold on for a little over two more months until Trump and his team take over here. Trump is a master at compromise and negotiations that accomplish win win situations for all parties. Let's give him a chance to include his input into the situation and I bet everybody can be comfortable with whatever is mutually decided.

He is going to hit Ontario with a 10% tariff. As I said, it could rightfully be labelled "a human rights tariff" and it would be an accurate description. Ontario is the new East Berlin.

 

[JoeB131]

Premier Ford went after China in the past too. It's not that I necessarily disagree with him, it's the hypocrisy of running a covert police state and rewarding them while relying heavily on Federal government just to stay afloat.

More than half of all of Canadas debt is from Ontario. We are a police state and we drive our best talent elsewhere who realize they are living in East Germany. There have also been big pushes to dismantle the RCMP along with other agencies and in time, Canadians will have to decide "healthcare and freedom, or an unaccountable police state and continued caste system".

These cowards interfere in peoples lives from the cradle to the grave. Relationships,, peoples careers, peoples healthcare.

If Trump hits Ontario with even a 10% tariff it we will lose hundreds of thousands of jobs to the U.S and he knows it.

As I said, apply "human right tariffs" so that not even the left can disagree with him. Allow an open forum, as Wilbur Ross did in 2016 when he reached out to companies being undermined by Chinese companies, and hear from citizens who have experienced gross violations of their G-d given rights.

Justice is served by those who celebrate the abuses of others and an unaccountable, cowardly S.I.C. Men who would NEVER step foot in Europe to fight against fascism, spit on the very graves of those who did.

I don't think Trump can hit Ontario with a tariff without hitting the rest of Ontario.

Not sure how you can claim it's a "police state", that sounds a bit crazy.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I don't think Trump can hit Ontario with a tariff without hitting the rest of Ontario.

Not sure how you can claim it's a "police state", that sounds a bit crazy.

If only you knew what I have been through.

You wonder why I am so adamantly against China? I suffered greatly in Canada so I can only imagine what "undesirables" and Whistleblowers in China go through.

 

[JoeB131]

If only you knew what I have been through.

I don't now what you've supposedly "been through", but I suspect most of it was self-inflicted. Seriously, you come off like a paranoid loon, the kind a government might want to keep an eye on.

You wonder why I am so adamantly against China? I suffered greatly in Canada so I can only imagine what "undesirables" and Whistleblowers in China go through.

Actually, most Chinese are fine with their form of government.

Fun fact, I am married to a Chinese national. So we watch a lot of Chinese media together. So, while they certainly don't have the freedom I'm used to as an American, they certainly aren't the despotism imagined in your fever dreams.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I don't now what you've supposedly "been through", but I suspect most of it was self-inflicted. Seriously, you come off like a paranoid loon, the kind a government might want to keep an eye on.



Actually, most Chinese are fine with their form of government.

Fun fact, I am married to a Chinese national. So we watch a lot of Chinese media together. So, while they certainly don't have the freedom I'm used to as an American, they certainly aren't the despotism imagined in your fever dreams.

"The kind government might want to keep an eye on"? Very Communist of you comrade. "If he blows the whistle, you target him more!".

I cannot hurt a fly but I will no longer turn the other cheek, hoping for G-d to guide me.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I was a university graduate going about my life, it was the unaccountable evil in the S.I.C that destroyed myself and their reputation. To your approval it seems.

 

[JoeB131]

"The kind government might want to keep an eye on"? Very Communist of you comrade. "If he blows the whistle, you target him more!".

I cannot hurt a fly but I will no longer turn the other cheek, hoping for G-d to guide me.

Which came first, the chicken or the egg? I was a university graduate going about my life, it was the unaccountable evil in the S.I.C that destroyed myself and their reputation. To your approval it seems.

I don't know, what did you do to upset the government?

I'm sure there's a story there, but it's not as interesting as you think it is.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I don't know, what did you do to upset the government?

I'm sure there's a story there, but it's not as interesting as you think it is.

I took a beating at the hands of the police that rendered me deaf in one ear with permanent tinnitus as a bonus. It has never stopped ringing all of these many years later, nor can I hear from it.

In the same "interview" I was held against a wall by two uniformed cops while a third plain clothed pulled my pants down to my ankles, used a stick to bang between one knee to the next until I "talked". When I didn't, he lifted the stick into my scrotum. He did this with increasing force and I experienced the increasing pain multiple times.

Who did they want me to talk out against? Ironically an undercover cop who I didn't know was a cop at the time but who was involved in crime. Criminal activity they try to paint others with.

Oh, did I mention that I was 17 at the time, as skinny as a rake.

For years they tried to surround me with undercovers and entrap me to engage in crimes, I didn't take the bait. Though I am aware of the activities they would love to plant me with in order to justify decades of interference in my life.

Is there now a political dimension to the ongoing abuse? I believe so, even if just to justify their decades of abuse.

You wouldn't believe the full story, nor the types of threats made. Here's one for instance, an undercover cop who they planted in my workplace told me "if somebody really wants to get you, they will just plant your DNA at a crime site".

Who has that kind of imagination? Considering all I have been through, how would you feel about such a threat?

Wake up. Other nations aren't like America. You have enemies that you don't even realize. They have perfected the system of control and subtle control even better than the Stazi.

 

[JoeB131]

I took a beating at the hands of the police that rendered me deaf in one ear with permanent tinnitus as a bonus. It has never stopped ringing all of these many years later, nor can I hear from it.

In the same "interview" I was held against a wall by two uniformed cops while a third plain clothed pulled my pants down to my ankles, used a stick to bang between one knee to the next until I "talked". When I didn't, he lifted the stick into my scrotum. He did this with increasing force and I experienced the increasing pain multiple times.

Who did they want me to talk out against? Ironically an undercover cop who I didn't know was a cop at the time but who was involved in crime. Criminal activity they try to paint others with.

Oh, did I mention that I was 17 at the time, as skinny as a rake.

For years they tried to surround me with undercovers and entrap me to engage in crimes, I didn't take the bait. Though I am aware of the activities they would love to plant me with in order to justify decades of interference in my life.

Is there now a political dimension to the ongoing abuse? I believe so, even if just to justify their decades of abuse.

You wouldn't believe the full story, nor the types of threats made. Here's one for instance, an undercover cop who they planted in my workplace told me "if somebody really wants to get you, they will just plant your DNA at a crime site".

Who has that kind of imagination? Considering all I have been through, how would you feel about such a threat?

Wake up. Other nations aren't like America. You have enemies that you don't even realize. They have perfected the system of control and subtle control even better than the Stazi.

I once wrote a resume for a gentlemen who spent 10 years in prison because the CPD beat a confession out of one of his friends for a murder they didn't commit. There are bad cops everywhere.

What they did to you in custody sounds bad.

But the stuff about "undercover" sounds like paranoia. If you come off like half the loon IRL that you come off as here, I suspect that your coworker who claimed to be an undercover was just fucking with you. Which is kind of a dick move, really.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I once wrote a resume for a gentlemen who spent 10 years in prison because the CPD beat a confession out of one of his friends for a murder they didn't commit. There are bad cops everywhere.

What they did to you in custody sounds bad.

But the stuff about "undercover" sounds like paranoia. If you come off like half the loon IRL that you come off as here, I suspect that your coworker who claimed to be an undercover was just fucking with you. Which is kind of a dick move, really.

No, because this guy didn't know anything about what had happened to me as a teen. In fact, for years I just put it behind me. Graduated from University top of my graduating class and started my career in the corporate world.

It wasn't until I pieced it all together after he was sending my constant anti-American and antisemitic information by email and constantly speaking about it at work, which I not only rejected, but rejected publicly. He was trying to put me on someones watch list. Angered me so much after 9/11 when he accused America and Israel of committing the crime that I had to walk away for fear I might lose my cool.

Maybe you don't understand how Agent Provocateurs work, or perhaps you understand quite well. What you surely don't understand or appreciate is how centralized systems work.

Trump and his team will know very well how corrupt and creepy the operatives in Ontario are. So much so that they have been given space in Americas annual State Department assessments.

For all the interference in my life by the Creepy Ones, there will be justice if there is a G-d. The world is a funny place and it all seems to work out in an odd way. You don't know what I know, the names of people I grew up with who were the biggest trouble makers who are now cops today. None of it makes sense, until you understand that this is how they operate. They are worse than the mob and possess less integrity.

 

[Mac-7]

Okay, Mexico is already a backdoor, as you say, for German and Japanese cars.... So why get worked up about Chinese cars other than you see a Chinaman under your bed every night.

Because Germany is not our enemy and china is

 

[JoeB131]

No, because this guy didn't know anything about what had happened to me as a teen. In fact, for years I just put it behind me. Graduated from University top of my graduating class and started my career in the corporate world.

It wasn't until I pieced it all together after he was sending my constant anti-American and antisemitic information by email and constantly speaking about it at work, which I not only rejected, but rejected publicly. He was trying to put me on someones watch list. Angered me so much after 9/11 when he accused America and Israel of committing the crime that I had to walk away for fear I might lose my cool.

Maybe you don't understand how Agent Provocateurs work, or perhaps you understand quite well. What you surely don't understand or appreciate is how centralized systems work.

Trump and his team will know very well how corrupt and creepy the operatives in Ontario are. So much so that they have been given space in Americas annual State Department assessments.

For all the interference in my life by the Creepy Ones, there will be justice if there is a G-d. The world is a funny place and it all seems to work out in an odd way. You don't know what I know, the names of people I grew up with who were the biggest trouble makers who are now cops today. None of it makes sense, until you understand that this is how they operate. They are worse than the mob and possess less integrity.

Guy, I'm the first one to legitimately criticize the police for misconduct. Even have gotten into fights with family about it.

If I had a coworker who sent that shit to me at work, I'd tell them to knock it off, or the next email goes to HR.

(I actually did have a coworker once who told a totally inappropriate joke about the Japanese, even though we had a Japanese coworker. I told him straight up, not to tell jokes like that at work. He never did again.)

Honestly, you strike me as having a paranoid personality disorder. Now, as the old joke goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. But it sounds weird that they are after you decades later for a juvenile offense.

 

[JoeB131]

Because Germany is not our enemy and china is

China isn't our enemy. The worst thing a Chinese has done to me is my wife putting too much spice in my food.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Guy, I'm the first one to legitimately criticize the police for misconduct. Even have gotten into fights with family about it.

If I had a coworker who sent that shit to me at work, I'd tell them to knock it off, or the next email goes to HR.

(I actually did have a coworker once who told a totally inappropriate joke about the Japanese, even though we had a Japanese coworker. I told him straight up, not to tell jokes like that at work. He never did again.)

Honestly, you strike me as having a paranoid personality disorder. Now, as the old joke goes, just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't out to get you. But it sounds weird that they are after you decades later for a juvenile offense.

You don't understand the story. Also, I told him multiple times at work to stop, not send me emails.

I never even responded to his emails, but he bombarded me.

You don't understand the Canadian system. You never will. Don't you think there is a reason Americas Founders fought for their freedom from the British while the Canadians embraced it and did NOT want to leave?

There is so much for Americans to learn. I'm not sure you will to be honest. The same human right abusers and unaccountable systems that Reagan or Obama spoke out against are thriving in Canada.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't understand the story. Also, I told him multiple times at work to stop, not send me emails.

I never even responded to his emails, but he bombarded me.

Then you report him to Human Resources.

You don't understand the Canadian system. You never will. Don't you think there is a reason Americas Founders fought for their freedom from the British while the Canadians embraced it and did NOT want to leave?

America's founders didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes and wanted to keep raping their slaves. There was nothing noble about our "revolution".

There is so much for Americans to learn. I'm not sure you will to be honest. The same human right abusers and unaccountable systems that Reagan or Obama spoke out against are thriving in Canada.

Boo-hoo.... You know, you guys have universal health care, maybe they can give you something for your paranoia. That Chinaman you think is hiding under your bed might go away.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Then you report him to Human Resources.



America's founders didn't want to pay their fair share in taxes and wanted to keep raping their slaves. There was nothing noble about our "revolution".



Boo-hoo.... You know, you guys have universal health care, maybe they can give you something for your paranoia. That Chinaman you think is hiding under your bed might go away.

You're not a serious poster.