Premier Ford pitches kicking Mexico out of North American free trade pact

[Foxfyre]

He is going to hit Ontario with a 10% tariff. As I said, it could rightfully be labelled "a human rights tariff" and it would be an accurate description. Ontario is the new East Berlin.

I'm sure he'll try to negotiate a win-win compromise with Ontario as he does with everybody before he puts on those tariffs.. On Fox Business News this morning, it was reported that a number of companies that moved overseas, especially those that left during the Biden administration, are packing up to move back to the USA because they know what Trump's business policies will be. Tariffs are one of his favorite tools when others mess with us.

So if Ontario or anybody else doesn't play nice in the sandbox, there is likely to be some pain involved. Trump puts America first so far as policy goes, but Trump does definitely prefer friends to enemies. And prosperous trading partners are advantageous to America. So we'll see how it goes.

 

[shockedcanadian]

I'm sure he'll try to negotiate a win-win compromise with Ontario as he does with everybody before he puts on those tariffs.. On Fox Business News this morning, it was reported that companies at moved overseas, especially those that left during the Biden administration, are packing up to move back to the USA because they know what Trump's business policies will be.

So if Ontario or anybody else doesn't play nice in the sandbox, there is likely to be some pain involved. Trump puts America first so far as policy goes, but Trump does definitely prefer friends to enemies. And prosperous trading partners are advantageous to America. So we'll see how it goes.

He should apply tariffs based on human right violations and unfair practices.

How many companies from Ontario are in America employing Americans?

I could give you a litany of American companies who are over here employing Canadians even while the Security Industrial Complex sends covert agents in these companies and/or they tamper with HR to place managers in key roles.

This is why some foreign companies have been sending their own HR departments and managers. This angered Canadians. Why? Control. Quiet control that the worlds business leaders now understand. Canada has ruined it's reputation and it's very difficult to reclaim it, certainly in Ontario they are well known to your state department.

 

[Foxfyre]

He should apply tariffs based on human right violations and unfair practices.

How many companies from Ontario are in America employing Americans?

I could give you a litany of American companies who are over here employing Canadians even while the Security Industrial Complex sends covert agents in these companies and/or they tamper with HR to place managers in key roles.

This is why some foreign companies have been sending their own HR departments and managers. This angered Canadians. Why? Control. Quiet control that the worlds business leaders now understand. Canada has ruined it's reputation and it's very difficult to reclaim it, certainly in Ontario they are well known to your state department.

I am ashamed that I know so little about Canada and what goes on there. I love visiting there. You really have an awesome absolutely beautiful country and I don't think I ever met a Canuck who wasn't quite pleasant and that I didn't like. (Well, there's one or two here at USMB that blemish that record, but I will likely never meet them personally and can pretty much ignore them. )

Trump I think is not completely opposed to sanctioning countries over human rights violations and he easily criticizes the way other countries do things. But he also is reluctant to tell other countries how they have to run their countries. I wouldn't count on his shakeup including disciplining Ontario.

 

[JoeB131]

You're not a serious poster.

Sure I am.

I just don't take you seriously.

Seriously, you are still whining because the police weren't nice to you when you were 17.

Sounds to me like they put a good scare into you to straighten out your life.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Sure I am.

I just don't take you seriously.

Seriously, you are still whining because the police weren't nice to you when you were 17.

Sounds to me like they put a good scare into you to straighten out your life.

You're some kind of sadistic weirdo.

Bother someone else.

 

[JoeB131]

You're some kind of sadistic weirdo.

Bother someone else.

Hey, guy, come on here acting like a fool, I will have some fun at your expense. Absolutely.

When you come on here complaining that Canada is a police state because a cop ***** slapped you when you were 17, you aren't going to be taken seriously.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Hey, guy, come on here acting like a fool, I will have some fun at your expense. Absolutely.

When you come on here complaining that Canada is a police state because a cop ***** slapped you when you were 17, you aren't going to be taken seriously.

You don't understand the full story, that is the key that started it, lead by undercovers who were sons of cops now all cops themselves.

Stay in your lane and say your prayers to G-d that you were born in America.

 

[JoeB131]

You don't understand the full story, that is the key that started it, lead by undercovers who were sons of cops now all cops themselves.

Stay in your lane and say your prayers to G-d that you were born in America.

Do you have a link to the "full story", because frankly, the parts you told don't pass the smell test.

If you were falsely arrested and abused in police custody AS A MINOR, some adult should have been raising holy hell about that.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Do you have a link to the "full story", because frankly, the parts you told don't pass the smell test.

If you were falsely arrested and abused in police custody AS A MINOR, some adult should have been raising holy hell about that.

Indeed. This is the problem with a former military dad who believes the police are the salt of the earth. A guy from the U.K once told me "he's lucky you weren't my son". I'd say the same today to that same cop.

 

[JoeB131]

Indeed. This is the problem with a former military dad who believes the police are the salt of the earth. A guy from the U.K once told me "he's lucky you weren't my son". I'd say the same today to that same cop.

My dad would have whooped my ass if I got arrested at 17 by the cops.

You never did say what they supposedly arrested you for, though.

 

[shockedcanadian]

My dad would have whooped my ass if I got arrested at 17 by the cops.

You never did say what they supposedly arrested you for, though.

My dad would have whooped my ass if I got arrested at 17 by the cops.

You never did say what they supposedly arrested you for, though.

You really expose your ignorance and further make a mockery of your own understanding of how a Security Industrial Complex works. The criminal, was the undercover cop.

Repeat to yourself in the mirror while you are wearing your police uniform, or perhaps just the CCP outfit you bought at a garage sale: "the undercover cop was the criminal", I was the kid who kept his mouth shut about this criminal and was rendered deaf and tortured for being the "stand up kid".

To really induce a randy feeling all over your being in regards to the disgusting and illegal abuse of a minor, the undercover cop was an adult. Fully four or five years older than myself and others he hung around.

Now that you understand that in whatever neanderthal cells are swirling around in your mind, this isn't an abstruse situation but by default you assume a great deal which exposes you more than it does me. I know I wouldn't be handing over citizens during WWII even if I had to take a beating to protect them. How about you? Would you just bend the knee to Himmler or one of his ilk, then or now?

I suppose based on your glowing review of the CCP this all makes sense to me now. What is unusual, is for all of your "might if right, let the cops violate the rights for which NONE of them had to die for on some Europe beach to protect" you have a distaste for Trump who is apparently the Tough on Crime guy.

Or perhaps your issue with Trump is that he too has an issue with the abuse of power against him? How dare he call out abuses of authority, right?

 

[JoeB131]

You really expose your ignorance and further make a mockery of your own understanding of how a Security Industrial Complex works. The criminal, was the undercover cop.

Repeat to yourself in the mirror while you are wearing your police uniform, or perhaps just the CCP outfit you bought at a garage sale: "the undercover cop was the criminal", I was the kid who kept his mouth shut about this criminal and was rendered deaf and tortured for being the "stand up kid".

Guy, you should have told the cop what he wanted to know, unless you were guilty of something, too.

To really induce a randy feeling all over your being in regards to the disgusting and illegal abuse of a minor, the undercover cop was an adult. Fully four or five years older than myself and others he hung around.

Now that you understand that in whatever neanderthal cells are swirling around in your mind, this isn't an abstruse situation but by default you assume a great deal which exposes you more than it does me. I know I wouldn't be handing over citizens during WWII even if I had to take a beating to protect them. How about you? Would you just bend the knee to Himmler or one of his ilk, then or now?

Oh, guy, get over yourself. If there was legitimate abuse, you should have sued. IF there wasn't, you should have taken it like a man.

I suppose based on your glowing review of the CCP this all makes sense to me now. What is unusual, is for all of your "might if right, let the cops violate the rights for which NONE of them had to die for on some Europe beach to protect" you have a distaste for Trump who is apparently the Tough on Crime guy.

Or perhaps your issue with Trump is that he too has an issue with the abuse of power against him? How dare he call out abuses of authority, right?

Naw, my issue with Trump is that he's an incompetent buffoon.

I'm the first one to criticize the cops when they are in the wrong. Laquan McDonald, Michael Brown, George Floyd- I tore those cops new ones.

The problem with your case is that you seem to be the only person who thinks you were wronged. Everyone else seems to think you were a delinquent who got an attitude adjustment.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Guy, you should have told the cop what he wanted to know, unless you were guilty of something, too.



Oh, guy, get over yourself. If there was legitimate abuse, you should have sued. IF there wasn't, you should have taken it like a man.




Naw, my issue with Trump is that he's an incompetent buffoon.

I'm the first one to criticize the cops when they are in the wrong. Laquan McDonald, Michael Brown, George Floyd- I tore those cops new ones.

The problem with your case is that you seem to be the only person who thinks you were wronged. Everyone else seems to think you were a delinquent who got an attitude adjustment.

I took it like a man, even as I wasn't one yet myself and tried to move on, but they continued to try to get me. This is what evil, abusive and unaccountable agencies do.

This ended in a young woman committing suicide as one of theirs told her to do so after she threatened.that she would. Lowlifes. Then I had the career interference that was constant.

You don't know anything, maybe read your own State Department annual reports and educate yourself. You should apply to work for the TPS or RCMP. they are always looking for loyal people who do NOT believe in the U.S Constitution or Bill of Rights. They prefer the CCP method of "well if you didnt want to be tortured by a pedo as a teen and rendered deaf you should have been a rat"

 

[JoeB131]

I took it like a man, even as I wasn't one yet myself and tried to move on, but they continued to try to get me. This is what evil, abusive and unaccountable agencies do.

This ended in a young woman committing suicide as one of theirs told her to do so after she threatened.that she would. Lowlifes. Then I had the career interference that was constant.

You don't know anything, maybe read your own State Department annual reports and educate yourself. You should apply to work for the TPS or RCMP. they are always looking for loyal people who do NOT believe in the U.S Constitution or Bill of Rights. They prefer the CCP method of "well if you didnt want to be tortured by a pedo as a teen and rendered deaf you should have been a rat"

Ahhh, the fine mix of paranoia and whining.


Meanwhile, Canada has a better Human Rights record than the US.

World Report 2024: Rights Trends in Canada

www.hrw.org

 

[shockedcanadian]

Ahhh, the fine mix of paranoia and whining.


Meanwhile, Canada has a better Human Rights record than the US.

World Report 2024: Rights Trends in Canada

www.hrw.org

These are your own State Department assessments, that's one of the critical duties they are tasked to perform, they indicate what types of systems are operating in other countries, including Canada. If there are evident police abuses and lack of accountability, it is recorded.

That's why in real numbers Canadians migrate to the U.S at 10x the rate, including our best minds, doctors, engineers etc.

If you believe that's an accident, let's volunteer for an exchange program and trade nations.

 

[JoeB131]

These are your own State Department assessments, that's one of the critical duties they are tasked to perform, they indicate what types of systems are operating in other countries, including Canada. If there are evident police abuses and lack of accountability, it is recorded.

That's why in real numbers Canadians migrate to the U.S at 10x the rate, including our best minds, doctors, engineers etc.

If you believe that's an accident, let's volunteer for an exchange program and trade nations.

Nope. I've put too much work into this one (11 years in the military.)

Besides, I wouldn't wish your whiny ass on this country.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Nope. I've put too much work into this one (11 years in the military.)

Besides, I wouldn't wish your whiny ass on this country.

Sure. The measure of a man is how he stands up under pressure and personal suffering.

I'd like to see how you would feel if rendered deaf with permanent tinnitus in one ear in addition to being tortured as a kid. Then to persecute me in my pursuit of a career after they had a critical role in a young woman killing herself.

I know what I am and I know what I am not. You won't see me sell out someone else to buy my future.

 

[JoeB131]

Sure. The measure of a man is how he stands up under pressure and personal suffering.

I'd like to see how you would feel if rendered deaf with permanent tinnitus in one ear in addition to being tortured as a kid. Then to persecute me in my pursuit of a career after they had a critical role in a young woman killing herself.

I know what I am and I know what I am not. You won't see me sell out someone else to buy my future.

Actually, I'm slightly deaf in one ear due to a fellow soldier being very careless with a grenade simulator... but you don't really hear me bitching about it.

Again, the bits of the story you have relayed are a bit convoluted. If you had knowledge of a crime and weren't reporting it, that's considered obstruction of justice in American law; there's nothing noble about it.

Not sure how this, "young woman killing herself" has anything to do with you, exactly. Seems like you are inventing grievances.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Actually, I'm slightly deaf in one ear due to a fellow soldier being very careless with a grenade simulator... but you don't really hear me bitching about it.

Again, the bits of the story you have relayed are a bit convoluted. If you had knowledge of a crime and weren't reporting it, that's considered obstruction of justice in American law; there's nothing noble about it.

Not sure how this, "young woman killing herself" has anything to do with you, exactly. Seems like you are inventing grievances.

You think you could ever know the full story?

Stay in your lane and wear your CCP hat, the concept of civil liberties and human rights is clearly beyond your purview.

 

[Michael1985]

Will throwing Mexico under the bus work for Ontario?

We are in deep trouble, especially if Trump applies a "human rights tariff". Ontario might be paying 50% tariff if he does that. He could even have a committee take input from foreign citizens of all nations, let Americans know what is going on around the globe.

Ontario is a quasi-police state. If any of you are members of or condone such a vile, unaccountable, creepy covert police state, may G-d judge you accordingly. I don't think America will kick Mexico out for Canada, we had a golden opportunity and we threw it away to remain a caste system. I don't think Ford even realizes that the Third Party steel (or was it aluminum?) was being imported into America from Canada, the original source country was China.

As I've said before, if Musk had moved to Ontario instead of the United States, he'd be working in a warehouse somewhere, a government official/covert cop might be his manager.

Premier Ford pitches kicking Mexico out of North American free trade pact

The head of Canada's largest province is dipping his toe into new territory — talking about removing Mexico from the North American trade agreement.On Tuesday, Ontario Premier Doug Ford floated the id...

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The head of Canada's largest province is dipping his toe into new territory — talking about removing Mexico from the North American trade agreement.

On Tuesday, Ontario Premier Doug Ford floated the idea of returning to a Canada-U.S. bilateral pact like the one that predated the enactment of NAFTA in 1994.

The impetus for his comments was Donald Trump's U.S. presidential election win, a potentially game-changing event with implications for trade and security arrangements around the world.


Ford alluded to the likely difficult review ahead for the pact known in Canada as CUSMA (the Canada-United States-Mexico Agreement). The agreement must be revised starting in 2026 or it will expire after a decade.

One of the greatest challenges facing that review is U.S. frustration with Chinese-owned car plants popping up in Mexico. Ford referred to those plants in a media statement.

"Free trade needs to be fair," Ford said Tuesday.

"Since signing on to the United States-Mexico-Canada Agreement, Mexico has allowed itself to become a backdoor for Chinese cars, auto parts and other products into Canadian and American markets, putting Canadian and American workers' livelihoods at risk while undermining our communities."

He can say whatever he wants. It won't be happening though.