Predictably, Obama makes a VAGUE ISIS war powers request.

[Redfish]

Edgetho is suffering ODS. Offer something of worth other than frothing drivel.

He says he wants clearer war powers.

Do you agree or not?

My post wasn't written for you or any other dimocrap douchenozzle.

I'm telling Conservatives, Republican and other Patriots that they DESERVE what's happening right now because too many of them sat home and pouted like pee-pants little girls because they didn't get Mr Perfect on the Republican Ticket.

You are what you are. Always have been, always will be

piss off

exactly correct. The "he's not conservative enough" idiots gave obozo 4 more years to destroy our culture, out society, our medical system, and our fiscal system

Another ODS victim. Get help.

Our culture, our society, our medical system and our fiscal system are in far better shape than on December 2008.

You fuck ups had your chance, you fucked up, you are on the outside, and that is where you will remain.

Oh, I see you have closed out your rightwinger sock and turned on you jake sock.

do you think anyone doesn't see through your bullshit?

 

[JakeStarkey]

Redfish, get socking around, you idiot.

You far right reactionaries have been thrashed this last time around by the GOP mainstream.

That is going to change not a wit.

Your antiAmerican agenda is obvious to all good Americans.

 

[Pheonixops]

What a dolt, why can't he ask congress to authorize specific attacks, on specific dates, and at specific locations like a real man???

LOL, yeah! Let our enemy know exactly what we are planning.

 

[Redfish]

Redfish, get socking around, you idiot.

You far right reactionaries have been thrashed this last time around by the GOP mainstream.

That is going to change not a wit.

Your antiAmerican agenda is obvious to all good Americans.

what does "get socking around" mean?

My agenda is pro-american, pro-constitution, pro-freedom, pro-individual responsibility, pro-equality.

Your agenda is tyranny by a minority who think they are so brilliant that they can tell the rest of us how to live. Fuck you and them, and all of your socks,

 

[peach174]

What a dolt, why can't he ask congress to authorize specific attacks, on specific dates, and at specific locations like a real man???

LOL, yeah! Let our enemy know exactly what we are planning.

While the President's own proposal let's the enemy know to lay low for 3 years.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

If it assists, here is the PRESIDENT's proposed AUMF against ISIS.

1
JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the limited use of the United States Armed Forces against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
***
Whereas the terrorist organization that has referred to itself as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and various other names (in this resolution referred to as ‘‘ISIL’’) poses a grave threat to the people and territorial integrity of Iraq and Syria, regional stability, and the national security interests of the United States and its allies and partners;
Whereas ISIL holds significant territory in Iraq and Syria and has stated its intention to seize more territory and demonstrated the capability to do so;
Whereas ISIL leaders have stated that they intend to conduct terrorist attacks internationally, including against the United States, its citizens, and interests;
Whereas ISIL has committed despicable acts of violence and mass executions against Muslims, regardless of sect, who do not subscribe to ISIL’s depraved, violent, and oppressive ideology;
Whereas ISIL has threatened genocide and committed vicious acts of violence against religious and ethnic minority groups, including Iraqi Christian, Yezidi, and Turkmen populations;
Whereas ISIL has targeted innocent women and girls with horrific acts of violence, including abduction, enslavement, torture, rape, and forced marriage;
Whereas ISIL is responsible for the deaths of innocent United States citizens, including James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Abdul-Rahman Peter Kassig, and Kayla Mueller;
Whereas the United States is working with regional and global allies and partners to degrade and defeat ISIL, to cut off its funding, to stop the flow of foreign fighters to its ranks, and to support local communities as they reject ISIL;
Whereas the announcement of the anti-ISIL Coalition on September 5, 2014, during the NATO Summit in Wales, stated that ISIL poses a serious threat and should be countered by a broad international coalition;
Whereas the United States calls on its allies and partners, particularly in the Middle East and North Africa, that have not already done so to join and participate in the anti-ISIL Coalition;
Whereas the United States has taken military action against ISIL in accordance with its inherent right of individual and collective self-defense;
2
Whereas President Obama has repeatedly expressed his commitment to working with Congress to pass a bipartisan authorization for the use of military force for the anti-ISIL military campaign; and
Whereas President Obama has made clear that in this campaign it is more effective to use our unique capabilities in support of partners on the ground instead of large-scale deployments of U.S. ground forces: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the “Authorization for Use of Military Force against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.”
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION.—The President is authorized, subject to the limitations in subsection (c), to use the Armed Forces of the United States as the President determines to be necessary and appropriate against ISIL or associated persons or forces as defined in section 5.
(b) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS.—
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1547(a)(1)), Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(b)).
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.—Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541 et seq.).
(c) LIMITATIONS.—
The authority granted in subsection (a) does not authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces in enduring offensive ground combat operations.
SEC. 3. DURATION OF THIS AUTHORIZATION.
This authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.
SEC. 4. REPORTS.
3
The President shall report to Congress at least once every six months on specific actions taken pursuant to this authorization.
SEC. 5. ASSOCIATED PERSONS OR FORCES DEFINED.
In this joint resolution, the term ‘‘associated persons or forces’’ means individuals and organizations fighting for, on behalf of, or alongside ISIL or any closely-related successor entity in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.
SEC. 6. REPEAL OF AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ.
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107–243; 116 Stat. 1498; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) is hereby repealed.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/aumf_02112015.pdf

 

[IlarMeilyr]

I want Congressional Authorization, but I want it limited to three years because let's be fair to the other side. They need to know how long we'll be in it. And I want it clear that whatever else Congress grants me authority to do, I wouldn't want it to be "enduring" or anything.

And I'll tell the world NOW that I WILL NOT BE USING any GROUND forces (because air power, alone, although shown not to work, is cleaner and more domestically expedient in political terms).

And when I speak of it publicly, I will insist that we will ("hopefully") destroy ISIS -- er -- I mean ISIL. Because being firm and resolute is overrated.

 

[Pheonixops]

What a dolt, why can't he ask congress to authorize specific attacks, on specific dates, and at specific locations like a real man???

LOL, yeah! Let our enemy know exactly what we are planning.

While the President's own proposal let's the enemy know to lay low for 3 years.

LOL, even the article from the Washington Times states that OF COURSE the next President can get it extended. The current President can change it as well, they just should or have to bring it before Congress to get approved. That timeline isn't written in stone.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

What a dolt, why can't he ask congress to authorize specific attacks, on specific dates, and at specific locations like a real man???

LOL, yeah! Let our enemy know exactly what we are planning.

While the President's own proposal let's the enemy know to lay low for 3 years.

LOL, even the article from the Washington Times states that OF COURSE the next President can get it extended. The current President can change it as well, they just should or have to bring it before Congress to get approved. That timeline isn't written in stone.

Of course they could seek extensions. This is a non war use of authorized force that comes, for now, with a strict time-table.

Because, those ISIL folks need a little heads up.

 

[Pheonixops]

What a dolt, why can't he ask congress to authorize specific attacks, on specific dates, and at specific locations like a real man???

LOL, yeah! Let our enemy know exactly what we are planning.

While the President's own proposal let's the enemy know to lay low for 3 years.

SEC. 3. DURATION OF THIS AUTHORIZATION.
This authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.

 

[Pheonixops]

I want Congressional Authorization, but I want it limited to three years because let's be fair to the other side. They need to know how long we'll be in it. And I want it clear that whatever else Congress grants me authority to do, I wouldn't want it to be "enduring" or anything.

And I'll tell the world NOW that I WILL NOT BE USING any GROUND forces (because air power, alone, although shown not to work, is cleaner and more domestically expedient in political terms).

And when I speak of it publicly, I will insist that we will ("hopefully") destroy ISIS -- er -- I mean ISIL. Because being firm and resolute is overrated.

SEC. 3. DURATION OF THIS AUTHORIZATION.
This authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.

 

[g5000]

If it assists, here is the PRESIDENT's proposed AUMF against ISIS.

1
JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the limited use of the United States Armed Forces against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
***
Whereas the terrorist organization that has referred to itself as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and various other names (in this resolution referred to as ‘‘ISIL’’) poses a grave threat to the people and territorial integrity of Iraq and Syria, regional stability, and the national security interests of the United States and its allies and partners;
Whereas ISIL holds significant territory in Iraq and Syria and has stated its intention to seize more territory and demonstrated the capability to do so;
Whereas ISIL leaders have stated that they intend to conduct terrorist attacks internationally, including against the United States, its citizens, and interests;
Whereas ISIL has committed despicable acts of violence and mass executions against Muslims, regardless of sect, who do not subscribe to ISIL’s depraved, violent, and oppressive ideology;
Whereas ISIL has threatened genocide and committed vicious acts of violence against religious and ethnic minority groups, including Iraqi Christian, Yezidi, and Turkmen populations;
Whereas ISIL has targeted innocent women and girls with horrific acts of violence, including abduction, enslavement, torture, rape, and forced marriage;
Whereas ISIL is responsible for the deaths of innocent United States citizens, including James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Abdul-Rahman Peter Kassig, and Kayla Mueller;
Whereas the United States is working with regional and global allies and partners to degrade and defeat ISIL, to cut off its funding, to stop the flow of foreign fighters to its ranks, and to support local communities as they reject ISIL;
Whereas the announcement of the anti-ISIL Coalition on September 5, 2014, during the NATO Summit in Wales, stated that ISIL poses a serious threat and should be countered by a broad international coalition;
Whereas the United States calls on its allies and partners, particularly in the Middle East and North Africa, that have not already done so to join and participate in the anti-ISIL Coalition;
Whereas the United States has taken military action against ISIL in accordance with its inherent right of individual and collective self-defense;
2
Whereas President Obama has repeatedly expressed his commitment to working with Congress to pass a bipartisan authorization for the use of military force for the anti-ISIL military campaign; and
Whereas President Obama has made clear that in this campaign it is more effective to use our unique capabilities in support of partners on the ground instead of large-scale deployments of U.S. ground forces: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the “Authorization for Use of Military Force against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.”
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION.—The President is authorized, subject to the limitations in subsection (c), to use the Armed Forces of the United States as the President determines to be necessary and appropriate against ISIL or associated persons or forces as defined in section 5.
(b) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS.—
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1547(a)(1)), Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(b)).
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.—Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541 et seq.).
(c) LIMITATIONS.—
The authority granted in subsection (a) does not authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces in enduring offensive ground combat operations.
SEC. 3. DURATION OF THIS AUTHORIZATION.
This authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.
SEC. 4. REPORTS.
3
The President shall report to Congress at least once every six months on specific actions taken pursuant to this authorization.
SEC. 5. ASSOCIATED PERSONS OR FORCES DEFINED.
In this joint resolution, the term ‘‘associated persons or forces’’ means individuals and organizations fighting for, on behalf of, or alongside ISIL or any closely-related successor entity in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.
SEC. 6. REPEAL OF AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ.
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107–243; 116 Stat. 1498; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) is hereby repealed.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/aumf_02112015.pdf

That is far less vague than the 9/11 AUMF.

 

[Pheonixops]

What a dolt, why can't he ask congress to authorize specific attacks, on specific dates, and at specific locations like a real man???

LOL, yeah! Let our enemy know exactly what we are planning.

While the President's own proposal let's the enemy know to lay low for 3 years.

LOL, even the article from the Washington Times states that OF COURSE the next President can get it extended. The current President can change it as well, they just should or have to bring it before Congress to get approved. That timeline isn't written in stone.

Of course they could seek extensions. This is a non war use of authorized force that comes, for now, with a strict time-table.

Because, those ISIL folks need a little heads up.

Lets assume that the next President is a Republican or the next Democratic President is Hillary Clinton; you don't think that they will seek an extension? Do you think that ISIL is suddenly going to lay down their arms now and wait it out for three years? If that's so, we just won without firing too many shots, all we have to do is extend the AUMF.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

If it assists, here is the PRESIDENT's proposed AUMF against ISIS.

1
JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the limited use of the United States Armed Forces against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
***
Whereas the terrorist organization that has referred to itself as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and various other names (in this resolution referred to as ‘‘ISIL’’) poses a grave threat to the people and territorial integrity of Iraq and Syria, regional stability, and the national security interests of the United States and its allies and partners;
Whereas ISIL holds significant territory in Iraq and Syria and has stated its intention to seize more territory and demonstrated the capability to do so;
Whereas ISIL leaders have stated that they intend to conduct terrorist attacks internationally, including against the United States, its citizens, and interests;
Whereas ISIL has committed despicable acts of violence and mass executions against Muslims, regardless of sect, who do not subscribe to ISIL’s depraved, violent, and oppressive ideology;
Whereas ISIL has threatened genocide and committed vicious acts of violence against religious and ethnic minority groups, including Iraqi Christian, Yezidi, and Turkmen populations;
Whereas ISIL has targeted innocent women and girls with horrific acts of violence, including abduction, enslavement, torture, rape, and forced marriage;
Whereas ISIL is responsible for the deaths of innocent United States citizens, including James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Abdul-Rahman Peter Kassig, and Kayla Mueller;
Whereas the United States is working with regional and global allies and partners to degrade and defeat ISIL, to cut off its funding, to stop the flow of foreign fighters to its ranks, and to support local communities as they reject ISIL;
Whereas the announcement of the anti-ISIL Coalition on September 5, 2014, during the NATO Summit in Wales, stated that ISIL poses a serious threat and should be countered by a broad international coalition;
Whereas the United States calls on its allies and partners, particularly in the Middle East and North Africa, that have not already done so to join and participate in the anti-ISIL Coalition;
Whereas the United States has taken military action against ISIL in accordance with its inherent right of individual and collective self-defense;
2
Whereas President Obama has repeatedly expressed his commitment to working with Congress to pass a bipartisan authorization for the use of military force for the anti-ISIL military campaign; and
Whereas President Obama has made clear that in this campaign it is more effective to use our unique capabilities in support of partners on the ground instead of large-scale deployments of U.S. ground forces: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the “Authorization for Use of Military Force against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.”
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION.—The President is authorized, subject to the limitations in subsection (c), to use the Armed Forces of the United States as the President determines to be necessary and appropriate against ISIL or associated persons or forces as defined in section 5.
(b) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS.—
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1547(a)(1)), Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(b)).
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.—Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541 et seq.).
(c) LIMITATIONS.—
The authority granted in subsection (a) does not authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces in enduring offensive ground combat operations.
SEC. 3. DURATION OF THIS AUTHORIZATION.
This authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.
SEC. 4. REPORTS.
3
The President shall report to Congress at least once every six months on specific actions taken pursuant to this authorization.
SEC. 5. ASSOCIATED PERSONS OR FORCES DEFINED.
In this joint resolution, the term ‘‘associated persons or forces’’ means individuals and organizations fighting for, on behalf of, or alongside ISIL or any closely-related successor entity in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.
SEC. 6. REPEAL OF AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ.
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107–243; 116 Stat. 1498; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) is hereby repealed.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/aumf_02112015.pdf

That is far less vague than the 9/11 AUMF.

No it isn't. The vagueness is roughly the same for both (except for the qualified limitations on time). But I don't object to that. Such things are probably needed to be a little bit vague. Circumstances may change. The authority to use force need not.

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

lol...

Sure is interesting what gay left wing tool bags find funny, isn't it?

You know, I've been suspended twice from this site for making comments like this.

How come you haven't? Is it because this site is just one big right wing tool bag, tool?

 

[NoTeaPartyPleez]

Everything, and I mean everything is about politics and ways to burn republicans by setting them up. This, is no different.

Obama confounds Congress with vague ISIS war-powers request

Confidently declaring that the Islamic State “is going to lose,” President Obama on Wednesday asked Congress for broad yet intentionally vague war powers as he laid the foundation for a three-year military campaign against the terrorist group that ultimately could involve U.S. ground troops.

By leaving a host of unanswered questions with its authorization for use of military force, called AUMF on Capitol Hill, the White House is placing a significant burden on congressional leaders who now must hammer out the details.

Lawmakers from both sides of the aisle have voiced serious concerns. Democrats fear the authorization may open the door to another long, bloody ground war in the Middle East, and Republicans say Mr. Obama is unnecessarily tying his own hands and taking a bizarre step by giving up some power in his role as commander in chief.



Read more: Obama defends request for military force authorization - Washington Times
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

Huh, remember when this piece of shit said this about the four murdered citizens in Benghazi?



Have they got around to bringing those things to justice? Would you look at that FAT ASS walking next to scrawny emaciated looking obama?

Just to be clear, the piece of socialist shit makes vague promises and requests. He knows the republicans will demand something more specific, so then he will then look like the guy wanting to fight ISIS and it will make the republicans look weak for not wanting to give into his request.

The fucking media will of course report it accordingly and the moonbats will fall right into line.

Everything, and I mean everything is all about politics to this utter piece of shit. Everything. I mean we know this pile of shit could not give one rat shit about the well being of the American people.

Fucking left wingers.

So you prefer the big circus show that Bush created before invading Iraq? You want "Shock and Awe" with video of the bombing of....what city in Iraq or Syria would you prefer?

Do you remember what happened in Fallujah because the U.S. went in like a bunch of rodeo clowns? If you can't, let me know and I'll be glad to post the images of American bodies strung up on the bridge and on fire.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

What a dolt, why can't he ask congress to authorize specific attacks, on specific dates, and at specific locations like a real man???

LOL, yeah! Let our enemy know exactly what we are planning.

While the President's own proposal let's the enemy know to lay low for 3 years.

LOL, even the article from the Washington Times states that OF COURSE the next President can get it extended. The current President can change it as well, they just should or have to bring it before Congress to get approved. That timeline isn't written in stone.

Of course they could seek extensions. This is a non war use of authorized force that comes, for now, with a strict time-table.

Because, those ISIL folks need a little heads up.

Lets assume that the next President is a Republican or the next Democratic President is Hillary Clinton; you don't think that they will seek an extension? Do you think that ISIL is suddenly going to lay down their arms now and wait it out for three years? If that's so, we just won without firing too many shots, all we have to do is extend the AUMF.

You are arguing without reason. I happen to agree (and I acknowledged already) that the time frame is subject to being altered. I don't object to that.

But I also recognize (and since I am not an Obumbler-phile sycophant, I have no reason to deny) that Obumbler insisted on putting in a three year authorization period for political reasons even though advising the enemy of such a time table is clearly a stupid thing to do, militarily.

 

[g5000]

If it assists, here is the PRESIDENT's proposed AUMF against ISIS.

1
JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the limited use of the United States Armed Forces against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
***
Whereas the terrorist organization that has referred to itself as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and various other names (in this resolution referred to as ‘‘ISIL’’) poses a grave threat to the people and territorial integrity of Iraq and Syria, regional stability, and the national security interests of the United States and its allies and partners;
Whereas ISIL holds significant territory in Iraq and Syria and has stated its intention to seize more territory and demonstrated the capability to do so;
Whereas ISIL leaders have stated that they intend to conduct terrorist attacks internationally, including against the United States, its citizens, and interests;
Whereas ISIL has committed despicable acts of violence and mass executions against Muslims, regardless of sect, who do not subscribe to ISIL’s depraved, violent, and oppressive ideology;
Whereas ISIL has threatened genocide and committed vicious acts of violence against religious and ethnic minority groups, including Iraqi Christian, Yezidi, and Turkmen populations;
Whereas ISIL has targeted innocent women and girls with horrific acts of violence, including abduction, enslavement, torture, rape, and forced marriage;
Whereas ISIL is responsible for the deaths of innocent United States citizens, including James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Abdul-Rahman Peter Kassig, and Kayla Mueller;
Whereas the United States is working with regional and global allies and partners to degrade and defeat ISIL, to cut off its funding, to stop the flow of foreign fighters to its ranks, and to support local communities as they reject ISIL;
Whereas the announcement of the anti-ISIL Coalition on September 5, 2014, during the NATO Summit in Wales, stated that ISIL poses a serious threat and should be countered by a broad international coalition;
Whereas the United States calls on its allies and partners, particularly in the Middle East and North Africa, that have not already done so to join and participate in the anti-ISIL Coalition;
Whereas the United States has taken military action against ISIL in accordance with its inherent right of individual and collective self-defense;
2
Whereas President Obama has repeatedly expressed his commitment to working with Congress to pass a bipartisan authorization for the use of military force for the anti-ISIL military campaign; and
Whereas President Obama has made clear that in this campaign it is more effective to use our unique capabilities in support of partners on the ground instead of large-scale deployments of U.S. ground forces: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the “Authorization for Use of Military Force against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.”
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION.—The President is authorized, subject to the limitations in subsection (c), to use the Armed Forces of the United States as the President determines to be necessary and appropriate against ISIL or associated persons or forces as defined in section 5.
(b) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS.—
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1547(a)(1)), Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(b)).
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.—Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541 et seq.).
(c) LIMITATIONS.—
The authority granted in subsection (a) does not authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces in enduring offensive ground combat operations.
SEC. 3. DURATION OF THIS AUTHORIZATION.
This authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.
SEC. 4. REPORTS.
3
The President shall report to Congress at least once every six months on specific actions taken pursuant to this authorization.
SEC. 5. ASSOCIATED PERSONS OR FORCES DEFINED.
In this joint resolution, the term ‘‘associated persons or forces’’ means individuals and organizations fighting for, on behalf of, or alongside ISIL or any closely-related successor entity in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.
SEC. 6. REPEAL OF AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ.
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107–243; 116 Stat. 1498; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) is hereby repealed.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/aumf_02112015.pdf

That is far less vague than the 9/11 AUMF.

No it isn't.

It has far more restrictions in it.

 

[IlarMeilyr]

If it assists, here is the PRESIDENT's proposed AUMF against ISIS.

1
JOINT RESOLUTION
To authorize the limited use of the United States Armed Forces against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.
***
Whereas the terrorist organization that has referred to itself as the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant and various other names (in this resolution referred to as ‘‘ISIL’’) poses a grave threat to the people and territorial integrity of Iraq and Syria, regional stability, and the national security interests of the United States and its allies and partners;
Whereas ISIL holds significant territory in Iraq and Syria and has stated its intention to seize more territory and demonstrated the capability to do so;
Whereas ISIL leaders have stated that they intend to conduct terrorist attacks internationally, including against the United States, its citizens, and interests;
Whereas ISIL has committed despicable acts of violence and mass executions against Muslims, regardless of sect, who do not subscribe to ISIL’s depraved, violent, and oppressive ideology;
Whereas ISIL has threatened genocide and committed vicious acts of violence against religious and ethnic minority groups, including Iraqi Christian, Yezidi, and Turkmen populations;
Whereas ISIL has targeted innocent women and girls with horrific acts of violence, including abduction, enslavement, torture, rape, and forced marriage;
Whereas ISIL is responsible for the deaths of innocent United States citizens, including James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Abdul-Rahman Peter Kassig, and Kayla Mueller;
Whereas the United States is working with regional and global allies and partners to degrade and defeat ISIL, to cut off its funding, to stop the flow of foreign fighters to its ranks, and to support local communities as they reject ISIL;
Whereas the announcement of the anti-ISIL Coalition on September 5, 2014, during the NATO Summit in Wales, stated that ISIL poses a serious threat and should be countered by a broad international coalition;
Whereas the United States calls on its allies and partners, particularly in the Middle East and North Africa, that have not already done so to join and participate in the anti-ISIL Coalition;
Whereas the United States has taken military action against ISIL in accordance with its inherent right of individual and collective self-defense;
2
Whereas President Obama has repeatedly expressed his commitment to working with Congress to pass a bipartisan authorization for the use of military force for the anti-ISIL military campaign; and
Whereas President Obama has made clear that in this campaign it is more effective to use our unique capabilities in support of partners on the ground instead of large-scale deployments of U.S. ground forces: Now, therefore, be it
Resolved by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This joint resolution may be cited as the “Authorization for Use of Military Force against the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant.”
SEC. 2. AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF UNITED STATES ARMED FORCES.
(a) AUTHORIZATION.—The President is authorized, subject to the limitations in subsection (c), to use the Armed Forces of the United States as the President determines to be necessary and appropriate against ISIL or associated persons or forces as defined in section 5.
(b) WAR POWERS RESOLUTION REQUIREMENTS.—
(1) SPECIFIC STATUTORY AUTHORIZATION.—Consistent with section 8(a)(1) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1547(a)(1)), Congress declares that this section is intended to constitute specific statutory authorization within the meaning of section 5(b) of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1544(b)).
(2) APPLICABILITY OF OTHER REQUIREMENTS.—Nothing in this resolution supersedes any requirement of the War Powers Resolution (50 U.S.C. 1541 et seq.).
(c) LIMITATIONS.—
The authority granted in subsection (a) does not authorize the use of the United States Armed Forces in enduring offensive ground combat operations.
SEC. 3. DURATION OF THIS AUTHORIZATION.
This authorization for the use of military force shall terminate three years after the date of the enactment of this joint resolution, unless reauthorized.
SEC. 4. REPORTS.
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The President shall report to Congress at least once every six months on specific actions taken pursuant to this authorization.
SEC. 5. ASSOCIATED PERSONS OR FORCES DEFINED.
In this joint resolution, the term ‘‘associated persons or forces’’ means individuals and organizations fighting for, on behalf of, or alongside ISIL or any closely-related successor entity in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners.
SEC. 6. REPEAL OF AUTHORIZATION FOR USE OF MILITARY FORCE AGAINST IRAQ.
The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 (Public Law 107–243; 116 Stat. 1498; 50 U.S.C. 1541 note) is hereby repealed.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/default/files/docs/aumf_02112015.pdf

That is far less vague than the 9/11 AUMF.

No it isn't.

It has far more restrictions in it.

Not really. It has some surface-y claims to SOME limitations. But "far more" is empty rhetoric.

 

[JakeStarkey]

Redfish's agenda is anti-american, anti-constitution, anti-freedom, anti-individual responsibility, anti-equality.

You are the minority, far right. The far right is shrinking in % in this country and in importance.

The millennials despise your ilk in particular.

You are the minority. Your tyranny of the minority is not going to tell the rest of us how to live.

Your day is over. Get used to it.