Portland, Oregon in Trumps sights?

[dblack]

I'll just leave it with this... any authoritarian power that you grant to an administration that you approve of is still going to be there once an administration you don't approve of is in power. You said you wouldn't mind if the same thing was done under a Dem. But will you feel the same when they start claiming that gun-owning patriots are "domestic terrorists" or that anti-globalists are "mentally ill"? You may think that's far fetched, but things like that have already happened. And their ultimate agenda is subversive, so of course freedom-loving patriots are enemy #1 to the powers-that-shouldn't-be.

They never get this. Or never want to think about it.

 

[Seymour Flops]

You're seeing all of this in a completely different way because you (like so many others here) still believe we have a genuine 2-party system.

The permanent establishment (regardless of which fraud politician happens to be in power) is using a tactic on you guys that you seem to be completely oblivious to. It's called Problem - Reaction - Solution. To sum it up, they create the problem (or allow an existing problem to get worse).... That problem causes a reaction from the public (people crying out to the government to "do something!")....and then the government "comes to the rescue" with the "solution" - which just so happened to be the pre-existing agenda in the first place. They just needed a pretext. Problem - Reaction - Solution.

As much as I despise the establishment, they did not create the problem of high crime in DC, and other cities, in order to give Donald Trump an opportunity to implement a solution.

That's kind of a crazy idea.

They use this tactic all the time. That's why it's amazing to me that so many people still seem to be blissfully oblivious to it.

But I don't want to argue about this, you either get it or you don't. If you don't see it by now, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

Does that mean that I'll get the last word?

I'll just leave it with this... any authoritarian power that you grant to an administration that you approve of is still going to be there once an administration you don't approve of is in power. You said you wouldn't mind if the same thing was done under a Dem. But will you feel the same when they start claiming that gun-owning patriots are "domestic terrorists" or that anti-globalists are "mentally ill"? You may think that's far fetched, but things like that have already happened. And their ultimate agenda is subversive, so of course freedom-loving patriots are enemy #1 to the powers-that-shouldn't-be.

Trump has not been "granted" any additional powers. He's using the ones that have been there for a long time. Those will be there for his successor of any party, whether Trump uses them or not.

 

[Carl in Michigan]

Libertarian philosophy will be crushed by your authoritarian heroes! Congratulations.

It's good that you clarified that. Many of Trump's supporters pretend to be libertarians.

 

[the watcher]

You're seeing all of this in a completely different way because you (like so many others here) still believe we have a genuine 2-party system.

The permanent establishment (regardless of which fraud politician happens to be in power) is using a tactic on you guys that you seem to be completely oblivious to. It's called Problem - Reaction - Solution. To sum it up, they create the problem (or allow an existing problem to get worse).... That problem causes a reaction from the public (people crying out to the government to "do something!")....and then the government "comes to the rescue" with the "solution" - which just so happened to be the pre-existing agenda in the first place. They just needed a pretext. Problem - Reaction - Solution.

They use this tactic all the time. That's why it's amazing to me that so many people still seem to be blissfully oblivious to it.

But I don't want to argue about this, you either get it or you don't. If you don't see it by now, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

I'll just leave it with this... any authoritarian power that you grant to an administration that you approve of is still going to be there once an administration you don't approve of is in power. You said you wouldn't mind if the same thing was done under a Dem. But will you feel the same when they start claiming that gun-owning patriots are "domestic terrorists" or that anti-globalists are "mentally ill"? You may think that's far fetched, but things like that have already happened. And their ultimate agenda is subversive, so of course freedom-loving patriots are enemy #1 to the powers-that-shouldn't-be.

Also,

A government big enough to give you everything you want is a government big enough to take away everything that you have​

 

[TimFitz]

But how do we get rid of them? What do you think the final solution should be?

Straight Nazi talk!

 

[dblack]

Straight Nazi talk!

Exactly

 

[Stryder50]

So Trump is considering sending troops to Portland, Oregon. This is not DC, and we don't regard such actions as Constitutional. And his reasons for this are, as usual, totally false. Time to use the 25th Amendment to rid us of this demented senile fool.

‘Wipe them out’: Trump weighs sending feds to quell Portland protests

"I'm going to look at it now," Trump said regarding potentially sending troops into Portland.

www.oregonlive.com

Portland is one of the home bases for Antifa.
It is in need of cleansing.

 

[Stryder50]

No, the police allowed that by murdering unarmed citizens. What people don't want is Trump believing he can send the military everywhere. You fascists might like it, until it happens to you. It's time Trump gets impeached and removed. Period.

Bull shyte!
Your Democrat-Socialist mayors and governors allowed the insurrections, and the personal injuries and murders that came with them.
"Autonomous Zone" mean anything to you ?
Antifa and BLM need to be prosecuted and/or deported.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Old Cocks said: So Trump is considering sending troops to Portland, Oregon. This is not DC, and we don't regard such actions as Constitutional. And his reasons for this are, as usual, totally false. Time to use the 25th Amendment to rid us of this demented senile fool.

Have you missed the violence in the streets of downtown Portland over the last decade or so by leftist protesters who protest continually?

 

[HikerGuy83]

This is not DC, and we don't regard such actions as Constitutional.

Nobody cares what you "regard".

I hope they lock you down tight.

Suck on it.

 

[HikerGuy83]

Time to use the 25th Amendment to rid us of this demented senile fool.

Let's see you make an ass out of yourself, yet again.

Your little impeachment tantrums only further revealed what a bunch of power hungry assholes you are.

 

[Zebra]

Trump went from threatening Baltimore, to threar]tending Chicago, then New Orleans……and now Portland.

All in one week.

His occupation of D.C. cannot continue past next Wednesday without Congressional approval.

So, he turns up the noise.

now he sends troops to Portland

 

[Papageorgio]

So Trump is considering sending troops to Portland, Oregon. This is not DC, and we don't regard such actions as Constitutional. And his reasons for this are, as usual, totally false. Time to use the 25th Amendment to rid us of this demented senile fool.

‘Wipe them out’: Trump weighs sending feds to quell Portland protests

"I'm going to look at it now," Trump said regarding potentially sending troops into Portland.

www.oregonlive.com

Trump has no reason to go to Portland it is unconstitutional, it is a major slum, it is dirty disgusting and the Portland tourist group is having tougher and tougher time trying to get conventions or show to come, the downtown is dying, the smell of pot and urine is everywhere, and it is a hell hole but, the Lloyd Center is not safe but Portland deserves what they get.

 

[Papageorgio]

That's fine you want to believe that nonsense, but he's enforcing federal law while being opposed every step of the way by the cities who don't invited these invaders in. It's your libertarian philosophy that created the mess

Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government can send or troops to these hell holes

 

[forkintheroad7]

It and Seattle used to be beautiful cities, but not any longer.
The liberals created the stench in them,
Trump is just trying to bring it back.

I've lived in one and visited the other city

I wouldn't step foot in either one today.

The liberals remind me of termites... so many termites in our country, the Orkin man can't get them all...........

 

[forkintheroad7]

Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government can send or troops to these hell holes

Supremacy clause

 

[Concerned American]

Where in the Constitution does it say the federal government can send or troops to these hell holes

Congress, under Article I, Section 8, is empowered to declare war, provide for and regulate the Armed Forces, and issue letters of marque and reprisal, as well as to call forth the militia to suppress an insurrection, repel an invasion, or "execute the Laws of the Union." Under Article II, the President, as the Commander in Chief, has the responsibility to direct the Armed Forces as they conduct hostilities, put down insurrections, or execute the law when constitutionally authorized to do so. Link below.

authority of the federal gov't to send troops to restore law and order - Norton Browser Web Search

 

[forkintheroad7]

Congress, under Article I, Section 8, is empowered to declare war, provide for and regulate the Armed Forces, and issue letters of marque and reprisal, as well as to call forth the militia to suppress an insurrection, repel an invasion, or "execute the Laws of the Union." Under Article II, the President, as the Commander in Chief, has the responsibility to direct the Armed Forces as they conduct hostilities, put down insurrections, or execute the law when constitutionally authorized to do so. Link below.

authority of the federal gov't to send troops to restore law and order - Norton Browser Web Search

Thanks for this.

I should have posted it myself but was distracted

 

[dudmuck]

Congress, under Article I, Section 8, is empowered to declare war, provide for and regulate the Armed Forces, and issue letters of marque and reprisal, as well as to call forth the militia to suppress an insurrection, repel an invasion, or "execute the Laws of the Union." Under Article II, the President, as the Commander in Chief, has the responsibility to direct the Armed Forces as they conduct hostilities, put down insurrections, or execute the law when constitutionally authorized to do so. Link below.

authority of the federal gov't to send troops to restore law and order - Norton Browser Web Search

article 1 section 8 applies to congress.

Is congress sending troops to portland?

 

[Polishprince]

So Trump is considering sending troops to Portland, Oregon. This is not DC, and we don't regard such actions as Constitutional. And his reasons for this are, as usual, totally false. Time to use the 25th Amendment to rid us of this demented senile fool.

‘Wipe them out’: Trump weighs sending feds to quell Portland protests

"I'm going to look at it now," Trump said regarding potentially sending troops into Portland.

www.oregonlive.com

Portland Oregon is clearly the hot bed and home base for the Antifa Domestic Terror organization.

It shows incredible lucidity and cognitive Excellence for President Trump to choose Portland as a primary front in his battle against Domestic Terror.

Not "senility" at all.