Polls show that millennials are more open to establishing slave reparations

[Preacher]

Poll: Millennials more open to idea of slavery reparations

As older white men die out, and this country becomes more diverse, more forward thinking, and less white-dominated, there eventually will be reparations for slavery and Jim Crow laws. And rightfully so. The harmful legacy of 200 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow has hurt communities of color to this day. Communities do not simply recover from centuries of oppression and abuse without outside help.

For those of you who snarkily say "oh, all the slaves are dead now," need to remember that those slaves had children, grandchildren, etc. who live today. The effects of growing up being treated like a piece of furniture, being banned from receiving an education or finding a job, is nothing that can be wiped away with a wave of the hand. There needs to be a full apology from the white community in this country for the evils of Slavery and Jim Crow laws, and reparations to help the African American community recover from 400 years of subjugation and pain.

#whitegenocide. Oh and hey NO ONE is stopping you from writing a big fat check so have at it!

 

[ThunderKiss1965]

Poll: Millennials more open to idea of slavery reparations

As older white men die out, and this country becomes more diverse, more forward thinking, and less white-dominated, there eventually will be reparations for slavery and Jim Crow laws. And rightfully so. The harmful legacy of 200 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow has hurt communities of color to this day. Communities do not simply recover from centuries of oppression and abuse without outside help.

For those of you who snarkily say "oh, all the slaves are dead now," need to remember that those slaves had children, grandchildren, etc. who live today. The effects of growing up being treated like a piece of furniture, being banned from receiving an education or finding a job, is nothing that can be wiped away with a wave of the hand. There needs to be a full apology from the white community in this country for the evils of Slavery and Jim Crow laws, and reparations to help the African American community recover from 400 years of subjugation and pain.

Sorry but making people pay for something that ended over 150 years ago is not forward thinking its as backwards as you can get. My family didn't own slaves so does that mean I'm exempt. Do you also suggest that Arabic states contribute to these reparations they where a major supplier for the trade you should also include the African tribes that sold their enemies they capture, and how can we forget the English and French and so on back to the beginning of the human race.

Either everyone owes some other group reparations or we just move forward acknowledging that terrible things have happened in the past and find a way not to repeat them .

You obviously don't understand how left wing guilt/punishment works........

I understand it very well I just like clubbing them over the head with reality.

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

A sampling of 1,200+ people indicate that Millennials are increasingly in favor of Slavery Reparations?

That's OK.

The Boomers and X'ers will be in control long enough so that the Millennials will have time to grow up before they gain power.

And, in growing up, and coming to the realization that Reparations will have to come out of their own pockets, that opinion, too, will change, by the time they're older.

Statistics show that people only get more progressive as they age:

Busting Myth, People Turn More Liberal With Age

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

Most of the cities of the Northern US States were built on the backs of the Irish and Germans and Italians and Swedes and Dutch and Poles and the like.

Many of whom were Indentured Servants (pseudo-slaves) or who were forced to work for near-slave wages once they were here.

That multi-generational discrimination harmed my family's prospects and well-being for generations afterwards.

We can give Reparations to those beige-colored descendants of REAL Africans when my ethnic bloc(s) get Reparations for their own terrible victimization.

The Irish were never treated as subhumans, or sold like furniture, or had their suffering justified on the basis of their skin color

 

[JimBowie1958]

But the painful legacy of slavery and centuries of discrimination still hurt people of color to this day.

Yeah, the idiots keep talking about something that has enver actually happened to them and it is a PAIN IN MY ASS.

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

But the painful legacy of slavery and centuries of discrimination still hurt people of color to this day.

Yeah, the idiots keep talking about something that has enver actually happened to them and it is a PAIN IN MY ASS.

Just because somebody themselves were not enslaved does not mean that they can escape the harmful effects of slavery upon their ancestors and family.

 

[JimBowie1958]

The Irish were never treated as subhumans, or sold like furniture, or had their suffering justified on the basis of their skin color

That proves you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

The slaves that time forgot

Most people have heard of the Great Famine, which reduced the population of Ireland by around 25%.
That pales in comparison to the disaster that England inflicted upon Ireland between 1641 and 1652, when the population of Ireland fell from 1,466,000 to 616,000.

Then things got worse....

From the Tudor reconquest of Ireland until Irish Independence in 1921, the English puzzled over the problem of what to do with all those Irish people.
They were the wrong religion. They spoke the wrong language. But the big problem was that there were just too many of them.

The English had been practicing a slow genocide against the Irish since Queen Elizabeth, but the Irish bred too fast and were tough to kill. On the other side of the Atlantic, there was a chronic labor shortage (because the local natives tended to die out too quickly in slavery conditions).
Putting two and two together, King James I started sending Irish slaves to the new world.
The first recorded sale of Irish slaves was to a settlement in the Amazon in 1612, seven years before the first African slaves arrived in Jamestown.

The Proclamation of 1625 by James II made it official policy that all Irish political prisoners be transported to the West Indies and sold to English planters. Soon Irish slaves were the majority of slaves in the English colonies.

In 1629 a large group of Irish men and women were sent to Guiana, and by 1632, Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat in the West Indies. By 1637 a census showed that 69% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves, which records show was a cause of concern to the English planters. But there were not enough political prisoners to supply the demand, so every petty infraction carried a sentence of transporting, and slaver gangs combed the country sides to kidnap enough people to fill out their quotas. The slavers were so full of zest that they sometimes grabbed non-Irishmen. On March 25, 1659, a petition was received in London claiming that 72 Englishmen were wrongly sold as slaves in Barbados, along with 200 Frenchmen and 7-8,000 Scots.
So many Irish slaves were sent to Barbados, between 12,000 and 60,000, that the term "barbadosed" began to be used.
By the 1630's, Ireland was the primary source of the English slave trade.
And then disaster struck.

Cromwell

After Oliver Cromwell defeated the royalists in the English Civil War, he turned to Ireland, who had allied themselves with the defeated royalists. What happened next could be considered genocide.
The famine (caused by the English intentionally destroying foodstocks) and plague that followed Cromwell's massacres reduced the population of Ireland to around 40%.

And then Cromwell got really nasty.
Anyone implicated in the rebellion had their land confiscated and was sold into slavery in the West Indies. Even catholic landowners who hadn't taken part of the rebellion had their land confiscated.
Catholicism was outlawed and catholic priests were executed when found.
To top it off, he ordered the ethnic cleansing of Ireland east of Shannon in 1652. Soldiers were encouraged to kill any Irish who refused to relocate.

Instead of trying to describe the horror, consider the words from the English State Papers in 1742.

"In clearing the ground for the adventurers and soldiers (the English capitalists of that day)... To be transported to Barbados and the English plantations in America. It was a measure beneficial to Ireland, which was
thus relieved of a population that might trouble the planters; it was a benefit to the people removed, which might thus be made English and Christians ... a great benefit to the West India sugar planters, who desired men and boys for their bondsmen, and
the women and Irish girls... To solace them."​

I can't help but notice that the exact same language and logic used to justify enslavement of the blacks was used to justify enslavement of the Irish.
It is something for those who think slavery was simply a matter of skin color to consider.
As for the Irish slaves, Cromwell specifically targeted Irish children.

“During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, [Oliver] Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.” For some reason, history likes to call these Irish slaves as 'indentured servants'. As if they were somehow considered better than African slaves. This can be considered an attempt at whitewashing the history of the Irish slave trade.
​

There does exist indentured servitude where two parties sign a contract for a limited amount of time. This is not what happened to the Irish from 1625 onward. They were sold as slaves, pure and simple.
In reality, they were considered by some to be even lower than the blacks.

 

[JimBowie1958]

Just because somebody themselves were not enslaved does not mean that they can escape the harmful effects of slavery upon their ancestors and family.

No, actually it does, moron.

 

[Meathead]

That's because they think mommy and daddy are going to pay for them.

It's Loony Tunes folks.

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

The Irish were never treated as subhumans, or sold like furniture, or had their suffering justified on the basis of their skin color

That proves you dont know what the hell you are talking about.

The slaves that time forgot

Most people have heard of the Great Famine, which reduced the population of Ireland by around 25%.
That pales in comparison to the disaster that England inflicted upon Ireland between 1641 and 1652, when the population of Ireland fell from 1,466,000 to 616,000.

Then things got worse....

From the Tudor reconquest of Ireland until Irish Independence in 1921, the English puzzled over the problem of what to do with all those Irish people.
They were the wrong religion. They spoke the wrong language. But the big problem was that there were just too many of them.

The English had been practicing a slow genocide against the Irish since Queen Elizabeth, but the Irish bred too fast and were tough to kill. On the other side of the Atlantic, there was a chronic labor shortage (because the local natives tended to die out too quickly in slavery conditions).
Putting two and two together, King James I started sending Irish slaves to the new world.
The first recorded sale of Irish slaves was to a settlement in the Amazon in 1612, seven years before the first African slaves arrived in Jamestown.

The Proclamation of 1625 by James II made it official policy that all Irish political prisoners be transported to the West Indies and sold to English planters. Soon Irish slaves were the majority of slaves in the English colonies.

In 1629 a large group of Irish men and women were sent to Guiana, and by 1632, Irish were the main slaves sold to Antigua and Montserrat in the West Indies. By 1637 a census showed that 69% of the total population of Montserrat were Irish slaves, which records show was a cause of concern to the English planters. But there were not enough political prisoners to supply the demand, so every petty infraction carried a sentence of transporting, and slaver gangs combed the country sides to kidnap enough people to fill out their quotas. The slavers were so full of zest that they sometimes grabbed non-Irishmen. On March 25, 1659, a petition was received in London claiming that 72 Englishmen were wrongly sold as slaves in Barbados, along with 200 Frenchmen and 7-8,000 Scots.
So many Irish slaves were sent to Barbados, between 12,000 and 60,000, that the term "barbadosed" began to be used.
By the 1630's, Ireland was the primary source of the English slave trade.
And then disaster struck.

Cromwell

After Oliver Cromwell defeated the royalists in the English Civil War, he turned to Ireland, who had allied themselves with the defeated royalists. What happened next could be considered genocide.
The famine (caused by the English intentionally destroying foodstocks) and plague that followed Cromwell's massacres reduced the population of Ireland to around 40%.

And then Cromwell got really nasty.
Anyone implicated in the rebellion had their land confiscated and was sold into slavery in the West Indies. Even catholic landowners who hadn't taken part of the rebellion had their land confiscated.
Catholicism was outlawed and catholic priests were executed when found.
To top it off, he ordered the ethnic cleansing of Ireland east of Shannon in 1652. Soldiers were encouraged to kill any Irish who refused to relocate.

Instead of trying to describe the horror, consider the words from the English State Papers in 1742.

"In clearing the ground for the adventurers and soldiers (the English capitalists of that day)... To be transported to Barbados and the English plantations in America. It was a measure beneficial to Ireland, which was
thus relieved of a population that might trouble the planters; it was a benefit to the people removed, which might thus be made English and Christians ... a great benefit to the West India sugar planters, who desired men and boys for their bondsmen, and
the women and Irish girls... To solace them."​

I can't help but notice that the exact same language and logic used to justify enslavement of the blacks was used to justify enslavement of the Irish.
It is something for those who think slavery was simply a matter of skin color to consider.
As for the Irish slaves, Cromwell specifically targeted Irish children.

“During the 1650s, over 100,000 Irish children between the ages of 10 and 14 were taken from their parents and sold as slaves in the West Indies, Virginia and New England. In this decade, 52,000 Irish (mostly women and children) were sold to Barbados and Virginia. Another 30,000 Irish men and women were also transported and sold to the highest bidder. In 1656, [Oliver] Cromwell ordered that 2000 Irish children be taken to Jamaica and sold as slaves to English settlers.” For some reason, history likes to call these Irish slaves as 'indentured servants'. As if they were somehow considered better than African slaves. This can be considered an attempt at whitewashing the history of the Irish slave trade.
​

There does exist indentured servitude where two parties sign a contract for a limited amount of time. This is not what happened to the Irish from 1625 onward. They were sold as slaves, pure and simple.
In reality, they were considered by some to be even lower than the blacks.

That simply isn't factually true

How the Myth of the "Irish slaves" Became a Favorite Meme of Racists Online

 

[JimBowie1958]

That simply isn't factually true
How the Myth of the "Irish slaves" Became a Favorite Meme of Racists Online

Lol, indentured servitude was VOLUNTARY, dude and the hundreds of thousands of Irish people sent to the Americans by James I and Cromwell were not voluntary.

Can you possibly think for yourself or is that entirely bred out of you?

 

[2aguy]

A sampling of 1,200+ people indicate that Millennials are increasingly in favor of Slavery Reparations?

That's OK.

The Boomers and X'ers will be in control long enough so that the Millennials will have time to grow up before they gain power.

And, in growing up, and coming to the realization that Reparations will have to come out of their own pockets, that opinion, too, will change, by the time they're older.

Statistics show that people only get more progressive as they age:

Busting Myth, People Turn More Liberal With Age

Cause their brains start to lose brain cells....duh.....

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

That simply isn't factually true
How the Myth of the "Irish slaves" Became a Favorite Meme of Racists Online

Lol, indentured servitude was VOLUNTARY, dude and the hundreds of thousands of Irish people sent to the Americans by James I and Cromwell were not voluntary.

Can you possibly think for yourself or is that entirely bred out of you?

Indentured servitude is by definition, voluntary. And indentured servants were treated as human beings, not as objects. The same could not be said for the slaves kidnapped from Africa.

 

[Grizz]

Poll: Millennials more open to idea of slavery reparations

As older white men die out, and this country becomes more diverse, more forward thinking, and less white-dominated, there eventually will be reparations for slavery and Jim Crow laws. And rightfully so. The harmful legacy of 200 years of slavery and 100 years of Jim Crow has hurt communities of color to this day. Communities do not simply recover from centuries of oppression and abuse without outside help.

For those of you who snarkily say "oh, all the slaves are dead now," need to remember that those slaves had children, grandchildren, etc. who live today. The effects of growing up being treated like a piece of furniture, being banned from receiving an education or finding a job, is nothing that can be wiped away with a wave of the hand. There needs to be a full apology from the white community in this country for the evils of Slavery and Jim Crow laws, and reparations to help the African American community recover from 400 years of subjugation and pain.

Tough shit get over it.
Imagine that ,a bunch of kids who have yet to hold a real job favor giving other people's money away.

 

[Kondor3]

Most of the cities of the Northern US States were built on the backs of the Irish and Germans and Italians and Swedes and Dutch and Poles and the like.

Many of whom were Indentured Servants (pseudo-slaves) or who were forced to work for near-slave wages once they were here.

That multi-generational discrimination harmed my family's prospects and well-being for generations afterwards.

We can give Reparations to those beige-colored descendants of REAL Africans when my ethnic bloc(s) get Reparations for their own terrible victimization.

The Irish were never treated as subhumans, or sold like furniture, or had their suffering justified on the basis of their skin color

True.

The Irish were merely treated as third-class humans. Probably had something to do with coming from a culture that had already climbed down from the trees.

 

[DigitalDrifter]

Blacks have been getting reparations for decades. It's called, food stamps, welfare, housing subsidies, healthcare subsidies, affirmative action.

 

[Kondor3]

But the painful legacy of slavery and centuries of discrimination still hurt people of color to this day.

Yeah, the idiots keep talking about something that has enver actually happened to them and it is a PAIN IN MY ASS.

Just because somebody themselves were not enslaved does not mean that they can escape the harmful effects of slavery upon their ancestors and family.

More in a never-ending stream of whines dedicated to making excuses for persistent and chronic under-performing after 150 years of freedom, and 50 years of Affirmative Action and special accommodation...

Enough of this Happy Horseshit already...

No more excuses...

Stop looking for a phukking hand-out...

Get off your dead asses and start making your own way in the world, like the rest of us...

Besides, there's a new Dominant Minority in town... the Hispanics...

You've had your turn... and done damned little with it... time for us to give some attention to somebody else...

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Do the milliniels want to pay reparations or do they think only someone else will pay them.

 

[Onyx]

If you want to give slave reparations, then start an organization and collect funding from voluntary donors.

Do not bring other people into your schemes involuntarily.

 

[ChairmanGonzalo]

Most of the cities of the Northern US States were built on the backs of the Irish and Germans and Italians and Swedes and Dutch and Poles and the like.

Many of whom were Indentured Servants (pseudo-slaves) or who were forced to work for near-slave wages once they were here.

That multi-generational discrimination harmed my family's prospects and well-being for generations afterwards.

We can give Reparations to those beige-colored descendants of REAL Africans when my ethnic bloc(s) get Reparations for their own terrible victimization.

The Irish were never treated as subhumans, or sold like furniture, or had their suffering justified on the basis of their skin color

True.

The Irish were merely treated as third-class humans. Probably had something to do with coming from a culture that had already climbed down from the trees.

You are one hateful, pathetic person