POLL: What Would You Have Trump Do About Covid-19?

[kyzr]

I am seriously interested in people's opinion about quarantining whole cities and towns. Please respond to that question. Thank you.

Quarantining cities would be a "last resort" option. Is Covid-19 a death sentence? No, 80% of the cases are mild. So its a "flu" not ebola.
We lose 20,000 to the flu every year and its no big deal. We need to attack Covid-19, but its not going to shut the US down. Summer is coming and it will abate. By then they should have therapies available.

 

[The Original Tree]

Considering what wasn't done in 2009 when O was in office and we had 4000 deaths, what is trump to do? How many died when wilson was in office with the spanish flu? 675,000. This wasn't O's fault or trumps fault. Mass quarantining isn't the answer either. The people being seriously affected have underlying health conditions, smokers, diabetes, compromised immune systems.

Trump was highly critical and fearmongering like a motherfucker during the Ebola thing a few years ago. He has some karma coming back to bitch slap the shit out of him.

So you are satisfied with what Trump is doing, or should he be doing more?

So your entire stance on The Corona Virus is based in revenge?
Thanks for clarifying that.

 

[g5000]

Considering what wasn't done in 2009 when O was in office and we had 4000 deaths, what is trump to do? How many died when wilson was in office with the spanish flu? 675,000. This wasn't O's fault or trumps fault. Mass quarantining isn't the answer either. The people being seriously affected have underlying health conditions, smokers, diabetes, compromised immune systems.

Trump was highly critical and fearmongering like a motherfucker during the Ebola thing a few years ago. He has some karma coming back to bitch slap the shit out of him.

So you are satisfied with what Trump is doing, or should he be doing more?

So your entire stance on The Corona Virus is based in revenge?
Thanks for clarifying that.

Where did you get that idea, retard?

Man, you people really need to stop listening to the deranged voices in your heads!

Seriously.

 

[g5000]

I am seriously interested in people's opinion about quarantining whole cities and towns. Please respond to that question. Thank you.

Quarantining cities would be a "last resort" option. Is Covid-19 a death sentence? No, 80% of the cases are mild. So its a "flu" not ebola.
We lose 20,000 to the flu every year and its no big deal. We need to attack Covid-19, but its not going to shut the US down. Summer is coming and it will abate. By then they should have therapies available.

The mortality rate for Covid-19 is ten to twenty times higher than the flu.

It's possible millions will die.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

I am seriously interested in people's opinion about quarantining whole cities and towns. Please respond to that question. Thank you.

If this virus had a kill rate of 20 percent and was infecting and killing healthy people, yeah, we'd need to be quarantining.

 

[NightFox]

What Would You Have Trump Do About Covid-19?

Appoint it as Secretary of State, we could use some competence in that department.

 

[martybegan]

I hear people grumbling that Trump is not being aggressive enough to fight this plague. So I was wondering just exactly what it is they believe he should be doing.

Yes, it was a colossal fuckup for Trump to disband the White House pandemic unit. Okay.

But what about going forward? What is he not doing that he should be doing?

Also, would you be okay with Trump forcing whole cities and towns into quarantine the way other countries are doing? I am very interested in hearing answers to this particular question.

Sorry, but what would that pandemic unit be doing that isn't being done now?

You really think they spent 8 hours a day 5 days a week working on things like this?

They were standard bureaucrats given another hat on top of their other hats.

How would they have changed the response as currently is occuring?

 

[OldLady]

I hear people grumbling that Trump is not being aggressive enough to fight this plague. So I was wondering just exactly what it is they believe he should be doing.

Yes, it was a colossal fuckup for Trump to disband the White House pandemic unit. Okay.

But what about going forward? What is he not doing that he should be doing?

Also, would you be okay with Trump forcing whole cities and towns into quarantine the way other countries are doing? I am very interested in hearing answers to this particular question.

Yes, I'm definitely in favor of quarantining whole cities and towns if necessary. I know it hurts, but maybe not quite so much as deaths. Why that nimrod in New Hampshire who has it travelled to Italy in the midst of this mess, I can't understand. God created Zoom and Skype for a reason. Even if business called, no one should be traveling to ANY country with the disease and I damned well wouldn't be going to the West Coast either.

Hunker down and stop it in its tracks.

 

[martybegan]

Other countries are testing patients for coronavirus by the tens of thousands. Why the U.S. is so far behind

South Korean officials are setting up "drive-thru" coronavirus screening facilities. Manufacturers in China have the capacity to distribute more than 1.5 million tests a week. The countries, alongside Italy and the U.K., are testing tens of thousands of people for the coronavirus, in many cases processing thousands of samples a day.

In the U.S., meanwhile, inadequate coronavirus testing has become a full-blown scandal. As U.S. cases spike, the Department of Health and Human Services has launched an investigation into defective testing kits that delayed lab results by several days, and experts are worried that a slow federal response may have given the virus more time to spread.

<snip>

The coronavirus's emergence in Asia in December and January gave the U.S. weeks to prepare, but even in the early stages, diagnostic testing hit snags.

The CDC, a U.S. federal agency, opted to develop its own test kit rather than use the existing one recommended by the World Health Organization; it is not yet clear why. Early on, CDC sent 200 of its test kits to state labs across the country (each kit can test 700 to 800 samples), but in mid-February, the agency announced that some of the kits were flawed, and asked labs to send samples to the CDC's central lab in Atlanta to be tested, a move that delayed results by several days.

More than likely its due to the same FDA type issues we have where drugs used overseas never get approved here because US regs are far stricter.

Things like that help us in the long term, but react poorly to fast moving conditions like a pandemic.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The OP probably doesn't remember the H1N1 "swine flu" in 2009 when Obama was in the WH.
There is another thread with a description of that cluster-fuck of a response.
Go read that thread and then come back to this bullshit thread.

Sooooo...all you have is "B-b-b-b-b-b-but-Obama!"?

Clearly O'bama created this virus and timed it to undermine Rump. It's what he's been working on with his magic Telepromter since leaving office when he got done tappppppppping Rump's wires. Just like he engineered the whole 2008 economy collapse with his time machine retroactively to set up his own election.

No, it wasn't O's fault nor is it trumps fault. Was it wilsons fault that 675000 died here in the US with the spanish flu?

 

[bendog]

I hear people grumbling that Trump is not being aggressive enough to fight this plague. So I was wondering just exactly what it is they believe he should be doing.

Yes, it was a colossal fuckup for Trump to disband the White House pandemic unit. Okay.

But what about going forward? What is he not doing that he should be doing?

Also, would you be okay with Trump forcing whole cities and towns into quarantine the way other countries are doing? I am very interested in hearing answers to this particular question.

It may come down to quarantining cities. It's clear the Admin fumbled getting testing in order. WE can blame Trump for never in his entire entitled life accepting bad news that can be avoided or blamed on someone else, but it seems clear that Azar was the log jam, and not getting FDA involved was the fatal blow to getting the tests that possibly could have kept the virus isolated. As it is there are hundreds if not thousands of people with the virus walking around right now.

Azar in the crosshairs for delays in virus tests

Just saying we'll let the virus just infect the entire nation and pick up the bodies of the 2% or whatever who die is not going to get it done. And as the link indicates the admin has now given up on containing the virus to mitigating the effects

I personally think it is too late for mass quarantine. It looks like the genie is out of the bottle. We allowed the period for containment to pass, thanks to the fuckup with test kits.

you may be right. But even worse that quarantining entire cities, we may see businesses simply shutter for a month or so and tell employees to stay home and try to avoid getting sick. The economic pain will pass, and whatever the death toll ends up being, it will not be as high as the Spanish Influenza of 1918 that GENERATIONS recalled as worse the WWI up until the effect of WWII. But the economic pain would hardly be insignificant. It would be a sharp and painful, but short recession.

 

[g5000]

Other countries are testing patients for coronavirus by the tens of thousands. Why the U.S. is so far behind

South Korean officials are setting up "drive-thru" coronavirus screening facilities. Manufacturers in China have the capacity to distribute more than 1.5 million tests a week. The countries, alongside Italy and the U.K., are testing tens of thousands of people for the coronavirus, in many cases processing thousands of samples a day.

In the U.S., meanwhile, inadequate coronavirus testing has become a full-blown scandal. As U.S. cases spike, the Department of Health and Human Services has launched an investigation into defective testing kits that delayed lab results by several days, and experts are worried that a slow federal response may have given the virus more time to spread.

<snip>

The coronavirus's emergence in Asia in December and January gave the U.S. weeks to prepare, but even in the early stages, diagnostic testing hit snags.

The CDC, a U.S. federal agency, opted to develop its own test kit rather than use the existing one recommended by the World Health Organization; it is not yet clear why. Early on, CDC sent 200 of its test kits to state labs across the country (each kit can test 700 to 800 samples), but in mid-February, the agency announced that some of the kits were flawed, and asked labs to send samples to the CDC's central lab in Atlanta to be tested, a move that delayed results by several days.

More than likely its due to the same FDA type issues we have where drugs used overseas never get approved here because US regs are far stricter.

Things like that help us in the long term, but react poorly to fast moving conditions like a pandemic.

Fast-Track Drug Approval, Designed for Emergencies, Is Now Routine

Trump made a big deal crowing about that.

 

[kyzr]

The OP probably doesn't remember the H1N1 "swine flu" in 2009 when Obama was in the WH.
There is another thread with a description of that cluster-fuck of a response.
Go read that thread and then come back to this bullshit thread.

THE BIG DIFFERENCE HERE YOU MORON IS THAT OBAMA HAD QUALIFIED PPL HANDLE THE SHIT, TRUMP ON THE OTHER HAND, WANTS TO SOLVE THIS SHIT BY DENYING IT EXIST....LISTEN, DO US ALL A FAVOR, GET OFF OF OBAMA'S DARK NUTS....AND HANG SHIT ON YOURS

You are obviously too partisan to post with. Grow the fuck up. The CDC has qualified people, and they hired a bunch more.
Read this thread before you start spewing more TDS lies:
How QUICKLY Democrats / Snowflakes Forget: Obama H1N1 FAILURE Compared to Trump/Coronavirus

 

[bendog]

Other countries are testing patients for coronavirus by the tens of thousands. Why the U.S. is so far behind

South Korean officials are setting up "drive-thru" coronavirus screening facilities. Manufacturers in China have the capacity to distribute more than 1.5 million tests a week. The countries, alongside Italy and the U.K., are testing tens of thousands of people for the coronavirus, in many cases processing thousands of samples a day.

In the U.S., meanwhile, inadequate coronavirus testing has become a full-blown scandal. As U.S. cases spike, the Department of Health and Human Services has launched an investigation into defective testing kits that delayed lab results by several days, and experts are worried that a slow federal response may have given the virus more time to spread.

<snip>

The coronavirus's emergence in Asia in December and January gave the U.S. weeks to prepare, but even in the early stages, diagnostic testing hit snags.

The CDC, a U.S. federal agency, opted to develop its own test kit rather than use the existing one recommended by the World Health Organization; it is not yet clear why. Early on, CDC sent 200 of its test kits to state labs across the country (each kit can test 700 to 800 samples), but in mid-February, the agency announced that some of the kits were flawed, and asked labs to send samples to the CDC's central lab in Atlanta to be tested, a move that delayed results by several days.

More than likely its due to the same FDA type issues we have where drugs used overseas never get approved here because US regs are far stricter.

Things like that help us in the long term, but react poorly to fast moving conditions like a pandemic.

US mftrers and the FDA have no role in other countries testing, which we failed to produce. and there are no vaccines or drugs ANYWHERE

 

[Pogo]

The OP probably doesn't remember the H1N1 "swine flu" in 2009 when Obama was in the WH.
There is another thread with a description of that cluster-fuck of a response.
Go read that thread and then come back to this bullshit thread.

Sooooo...all you have is "B-b-b-b-b-b-but-Obama!"?

Clearly O'bama created this virus and timed it to undermine Rump. It's what he's been working on with his magic Telepromter since leaving office when he got done tappppppppping Rump's wires. Just like he engineered the whole 2008 economy collapse with his time machine retroactively to set up his own election.

No, it wasn't O's fault nor is it trumps fault. Was it wilsons fault that 675000 died here in the US with the spanish flu?

wwwwhhhhhooooooooooooooooooossssssshhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[martybegan]

Other countries are testing patients for coronavirus by the tens of thousands. Why the U.S. is so far behind

South Korean officials are setting up "drive-thru" coronavirus screening facilities. Manufacturers in China have the capacity to distribute more than 1.5 million tests a week. The countries, alongside Italy and the U.K., are testing tens of thousands of people for the coronavirus, in many cases processing thousands of samples a day.

In the U.S., meanwhile, inadequate coronavirus testing has become a full-blown scandal. As U.S. cases spike, the Department of Health and Human Services has launched an investigation into defective testing kits that delayed lab results by several days, and experts are worried that a slow federal response may have given the virus more time to spread.

<snip>

The coronavirus's emergence in Asia in December and January gave the U.S. weeks to prepare, but even in the early stages, diagnostic testing hit snags.

The CDC, a U.S. federal agency, opted to develop its own test kit rather than use the existing one recommended by the World Health Organization; it is not yet clear why. Early on, CDC sent 200 of its test kits to state labs across the country (each kit can test 700 to 800 samples), but in mid-February, the agency announced that some of the kits were flawed, and asked labs to send samples to the CDC's central lab in Atlanta to be tested, a move that delayed results by several days.

More than likely its due to the same FDA type issues we have where drugs used overseas never get approved here because US regs are far stricter.

Things like that help us in the long term, but react poorly to fast moving conditions like a pandemic.

Fast-Track Drug Approval, Designed for Emergencies, Is Now Routine

Trump made a big deal crowing about that.

Always remember the name of a process doesn't always match the process. When the regular process takes 4 years, "fast tracking"
could mean that is shortened to a year and a half.

I would go with "faster" tracking.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

The OP probably doesn't remember the H1N1 "swine flu" in 2009 when Obama was in the WH.
There is another thread with a description of that cluster-fuck of a response.
Go read that thread and then come back to this bullshit thread.

Sooooo...all you have is "B-b-b-b-b-b-but-Obama!"?

Clearly O'bama created this virus and timed it to undermine Rump. It's what he's been working on with his magic Telepromter since leaving office when he got done tappppppppping Rump's wires. Just like he engineered the whole 2008 economy collapse with his time machine retroactively to set up his own election.

No, it wasn't O's fault nor is it trumps fault. Was it wilsons fault that 675000 died here in the US with the spanish flu?

wwwwhhhhhooooooooooooooooooossssssshhhhhhhhhhhh

My point exactly. I was agreeing with you. Well, looks like my point went down with the hindenburg.

 

[martybegan]

Other countries are testing patients for coronavirus by the tens of thousands. Why the U.S. is so far behind

South Korean officials are setting up "drive-thru" coronavirus screening facilities. Manufacturers in China have the capacity to distribute more than 1.5 million tests a week. The countries, alongside Italy and the U.K., are testing tens of thousands of people for the coronavirus, in many cases processing thousands of samples a day.

In the U.S., meanwhile, inadequate coronavirus testing has become a full-blown scandal. As U.S. cases spike, the Department of Health and Human Services has launched an investigation into defective testing kits that delayed lab results by several days, and experts are worried that a slow federal response may have given the virus more time to spread.

<snip>

The coronavirus's emergence in Asia in December and January gave the U.S. weeks to prepare, but even in the early stages, diagnostic testing hit snags.

The CDC, a U.S. federal agency, opted to develop its own test kit rather than use the existing one recommended by the World Health Organization; it is not yet clear why. Early on, CDC sent 200 of its test kits to state labs across the country (each kit can test 700 to 800 samples), but in mid-February, the agency announced that some of the kits were flawed, and asked labs to send samples to the CDC's central lab in Atlanta to be tested, a move that delayed results by several days.

More than likely its due to the same FDA type issues we have where drugs used overseas never get approved here because US regs are far stricter.

Things like that help us in the long term, but react poorly to fast moving conditions like a pandemic.

US mftrers and the FDA have no role in other countries testing, which we failed to produce. and there are no vaccines or drugs ANYWHERE

The FDA says what tests we can use in THIS COUNTRY. It says what procedure is used before those tests can be used.

And the FDA process is notoriously slow because that's how most of the country wants it, usually.

 

[g5000]

South Korea also developed their own test kits and deployed them immediately. They have tested more than 121,000 people already, and have drive-thrus where you can be tested.

So there really is no excuse for the U.S. stumbling so badly with test kits.

 

[MeBelle]

Other countries are testing patients for coronavirus by the tens of thousands. Why the U.S. is so far behind

South Korean officials are setting up "drive-thru" coronavirus screening facilities. Manufacturers in China have the capacity to distribute more than 1.5 million tests a week. The countries, alongside Italy and the U.K., are testing tens of thousands of people for the coronavirus, in many cases processing thousands of samples a day.

In the U.S., meanwhile, inadequate coronavirus testing has become a full-blown scandal. As U.S. cases spike, the Department of Health and Human Services has launched an investigation into defective testing kits that delayed lab results by several days, and experts are worried that a slow federal response may have given the virus more time to spread.

<snip>

The coronavirus's emergence in Asia in December and January gave the U.S. weeks to prepare, but even in the early stages, diagnostic testing hit snags.

The CDC, a U.S. federal agency, opted to develop its own test kit rather than use the existing one recommended by the World Health Organization; it is not yet clear why. Early on, CDC sent 200 of its test kits to state labs across the country (each kit can test 700 to 800 samples), but in mid-February, the agency announced that some of the kits were flawed, and asked labs to send samples to the CDC's central lab in Atlanta to be tested, a move that delayed results by several days.

More than likely its due to the same FDA type issues we have where drugs used overseas never get approved here because US regs are far stricter.

Things like that help us in the long term, but react poorly to fast moving conditions like a pandemic.

Fast-Track Drug Approval, Designed for Emergencies, Is Now Routine

Trump made a big deal crowing about that.

Which has nothing to do with a manufacturing defect - according to the link you previously posted.