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theHawk said:Well maybe what we should do is eleminate welfare altogether, then those people will suddenly want to work these jobs that illegals have.
theHawk said:Well maybe what we should do is eleminate welfare altogether, then those people will suddenly want to work these jobs that illegals have.
Pale Rider said:I may be wrong, but I believe welfare started during the great depression. There was millions of people out of work, and the country really did need it. People needed help.
But why we still have welfare is beyond me. Able bodied people should be MADE to work. Don't work, no money. There shouldn't be ANY FREE RIDES if you're ABLE TO WORK.
As far as mexicans coming here to work goes, I don't have a problem with it. Many, MANY are hard working. But also, many, MANY, HAVE NO INTENTION OF BECOMING AMERICAN. They are illegal aliens, criminals in this country, and they aren't helping anything. The ONLY way mexicans can HELP America, is come here LEGALY, pay taxes, and only on a work visa. They should NOT be allowed to vote... EVER, under ANY circumstances. The liberals would love this though. Another group of people they can keep down and lie to, and use for votes.
dilloduck said:I think primarily we still have welfare is becuase of the combination of bleeding heart liberals and white Christian guilt. Taking away all the the freebies would force people to look at the fact they have created zombies instead of helping anyone. Illegal aliens seem more intersted in using welfare as a temporary stop gap until they can use thier united power to control. (Which is rapidly approaching in several states)
Pale Rider said:I agree dillo. And these welfare zombies that are largely uneducated, fat, and lazy, still vote, and that's what the liberals have been relying on to get elected for a long time now. These people are easy to manipulate and lie to, so no, the liberals are NOT going to let anyone touch one of the most popular government programs among the voter base.
Kathianne said:I know that many will use the mantra, "Polls are useless", many are. Big hint: Did they list the questions they used? It's rare to see in the AP/Ipso or Gallup, you need to rely on the media to list some of the questions, never all, or subscribe to their premium reports-quite expensive.
Rasmussen and Fox routinely provide the questions, which makes a world of difference in how much credence the results say to each individual. You don't have to be a sociology major or pychologist, to apply common sense in reading the results of individual questions.
In this case, seems most 'polled' do not attack the illegals themselves, as much as those that fail to prevent the flood or those that hire them for personal gain. People want enforcement at the border, employers punished, and a measure of security regarding terrorism employed. One does not see 'nativism' or lack of empathy towards the illegal immigrants.
dilloduck said:How much power do you think they will have to give the illegals in exchange?
Do you think the ability of illegals to organize and demonstrate scares even the bloodiest liberal?