Skylar
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Marriage is whatever we say marriage is.
That is the reality.
In the United States, any couple issued a marriage license is in reality- married.
Those who claim otherwise are denying reality.
Yes, yes, everything is what we say it is. Black can be white, man can be woman. If you have children, I hope that you live to see the world you are leaving them.
The book "1984" is coming true. Orwell was just a little to early with the date.
When a society gets used to denying reality, it becomes so much easier for the next denial.
War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.
George Orwell
Mark
Mark.....you're stuck. As your only argument is to insist that marriage is whatever *you* say it is. And you're nobody. Your argument breaks at the same place it does with Bobs: your subjective opinion doesn't define objective reality.
You can't get around that.
So why would a rational person ignore the law and the dictionary and instead believe you.....citing yourself?
For the same reason that a rational person would know that a man is not a woman, or a white person is not black.
And what reason would that be? Remember, contrary to your batshit claim, definitions do change. And have.
Archaic words - Oxford Dictionaries
You insist this does not happen, can not happen. History, reality, and the dictionary demonstrate that you're wrong. And the dictionary is quite simply a better source on the meaning of words than you are. When it comes to legal terms, the law is a better source on legal definitions than you are.
You disagree. Um, so what? Linguistically, practically and legally.....you're nobody. Nor does your personal opinion have the slightest relevance to anyone else's marriage.
Get used to the idea.
You are holding me to a position I did not take.
Oh, I believe you. But this 80zephyr guy? He says you're a fucking liar:
80zephyr said:No, definitions do not change. Stupid people tell us they change. We now have "definitions" that tell us a man is a woman, a white is a black, and a middle aged man is really a six year old girl.
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And your position is demonstrably false. As the dictionary demonstrates, definitions change all the time. With the law demonstrating the same process over time.
I have laid out why reality trumps both definition and law.
Nonsense. You offered a predictable Begging the Question fallacy offering us your subjective opinion and demanding it was 'reality'. Apparently because you say so.
Sorry, Zephy.....but your argument breaks in the same place as Bob's does. Your subjective opinion doesn't define objective reality. Its just your opinion. An opinion contradicted by both the dictionary and the law.
In any contest on the meaning of words between you and the dictionary, the dictionary wins. In any contest on legal definitions between you and the law, the law wins. As linguistically and legally, you're nobody.
See how that works?