Poll: Majority of Americans side with LGBT rights over ‘religious freedom’

[SassyIrishLass]

LOL What a loon.

Oh? You're another one that gets to decide who are the real Christians?

Or is it you think all Catholics are not Christians?

Who did Christ tell He was going to build his Church on...then tell me who the first Pope was. Run along ya little know nothing

Your post makes no sense.

I asked if you thought Catholics were real Christians. I think they are.

You post implied one of the two options when you ad hommed me by calling me a loon.

I guess the other one is the case: You get to decide who is a "real" Christian,. and even though Pelosi is a Catholic...she's not? Is that it?

Catholics are the original Christians, all the others are johnny come lately.

I have no idea what Pelosi is in her heart, she supports abortion and the Church discussed denying her Communion over that stance but it never came to pass

Laura and Barbara Bush are pro-Choice too. FTR.

That is between them and God

 

[Deleted member 53821]

Poll Majority of Americans side with LGBT rights over religious freedom LGBTQ Nation

A new national poll finds that a majority of Americans believe businesses should not be allowed to refuse services based on their religious beliefs, suggesting a split over the issue between voters and some of the politicians who represent them.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll released Thursday also found that 52 percent of Americans support allowing same-sex couples to marry, far more than the 32 percent who oppose it.

The poll found solid opposition to allowing businesses to refuse services or refuse to hire people or groups based on religious beliefs.

Fifty-four percent said it was wrong for businesses to refuse services, while 28 percent said they should have that right. And 55 percent said businesses should not have the right to refuse to hire certain people or groups based on the employer’s religious beliefs, while 27 percent said businesses should have the right.

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

The worst thing about our constitutional system of government is that it allows individuals to protect their rights against the majority. It's easy to assert your freedom when the majority is on your side but what happens when that freedom becomes unpopular? It is unfortunate we have this constitution thing that seems to be effective at protecting unpopular actions that individual like such as looking at porn on the Internet.

 

[orogenicman]

Poll Majority of Americans side with LGBT rights over religious freedom LGBTQ Nation

A new national poll finds that a majority of Americans believe businesses should not be allowed to refuse services based on their religious beliefs, suggesting a split over the issue between voters and some of the politicians who represent them.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll released Thursday also found that 52 percent of Americans support allowing same-sex couples to marry, far more than the 32 percent who oppose it.

The poll found solid opposition to allowing businesses to refuse services or refuse to hire people or groups based on religious beliefs.

Fifty-four percent said it was wrong for businesses to refuse services, while 28 percent said they should have that right. And 55 percent said businesses should not have the right to refuse to hire certain people or groups based on the employer’s religious beliefs, while 27 percent said businesses should have the right.

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

A majority of Americans would oppose the Bill of Rights if it wasn't labelled as such.

That is an odd claim. I don't know anyone personally who feels this way. Is this a 'statistic' you acquired from watching Fox News? Or did you think that today was make up shit Thursday?

 

[orogenicman]

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

Ahahahaha oh no they don't lol you libs are funny

You said it, so it must be true. Oh wait...

 

[orogenicman]

Poll Majority of Americans side with LGBT rights over religious freedom LGBTQ Nation

A new national poll finds that a majority of Americans believe businesses should not be allowed to refuse services based on their religious beliefs, suggesting a split over the issue between voters and some of the politicians who represent them.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll released Thursday also found that 52 percent of Americans support allowing same-sex couples to marry, far more than the 32 percent who oppose it.

The poll found solid opposition to allowing businesses to refuse services or refuse to hire people or groups based on religious beliefs.

Fifty-four percent said it was wrong for businesses to refuse services, while 28 percent said they should have that right. And 55 percent said businesses should not have the right to refuse to hire certain people or groups based on the employer’s religious beliefs, while 27 percent said businesses should have the right.

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

I totally agree but what if some individual asserts themselves and just says no? It's an intersting scenario. Should we begin executions immediately?

Don't be obtuse. If they say no, they should lose their job, or get reassigned elsewhere in the business.

 

[The2ndAmendment]

Thankfully, the Constitution is not subject to majority rule.

 

[orogenicman]

Poll Majority of Americans side with LGBT rights over religious freedom LGBTQ Nation

A new national poll finds that a majority of Americans believe businesses should not be allowed to refuse services based on their religious beliefs, suggesting a split over the issue between voters and some of the politicians who represent them.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll released Thursday also found that 52 percent of Americans support allowing same-sex couples to marry, far more than the 32 percent who oppose it.

The poll found solid opposition to allowing businesses to refuse services or refuse to hire people or groups based on religious beliefs.

Fifty-four percent said it was wrong for businesses to refuse services, while 28 percent said they should have that right. And 55 percent said businesses should not have the right to refuse to hire certain people or groups based on the employer’s religious beliefs, while 27 percent said businesses should have the right.

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

The worst thing about our constitutional system of government is that it allows individuals to protect their rights against the majority. It's easy to assert your freedom when the majority is on your side but what happens when that freedom becomes unpopular? It is unfortunate we have this constitution thing that seems to be effective at protecting unpopular actions that individual like such as looking at porn on the Internet.

Erm, no. Our form of government was set up to mitigate against the "tyranny of the majority". It allows minorities to have a voice in how they are governed. That said, where the majority is right, they are right. Hard to get around that.

 

[mikegriffith1]

You are delusional. Seriously. ...

Said the guy famous for telling us "not enough people talk about the *good* aspects of slavery..."

That's dishonest distortion, and you know it. Here is the passage from which you have inaccurately quoted me:

So what are the facts about slavery in the South? Did any good come from slavery? Did slavery have any good aspects? Did all slaveowners mistreat their slaves? The subject of slavery in the antebellum (i.e., pre-Civil War) South is a delicate, highly charged issue because history books and documentaries have usually only told one side of the story. The recent PBS documentary Slavery and the Making of America is a prime example of the one-sided, misleading, and incomplete portrayals of Southern slavery that are usually presented to the public. I'm not trying to justify slavery. All I'm saying is that if we're going to talk about slavery, let's be factual about it.​

Most history books and documentaries that discuss slavery are full of tragic stories about the bad aspects of slavery, but they rarely mention the good aspects of the institution. Historians typically cite the worst cases of mistreatment and abuse but ignore or minimize the far more numerous cases of humane treatment, mutual respect, and genuine friendship. True, the good aspects of slavery don't outweigh the fact that slavery was wrong, but they should be noted in the interest of fairness and historical truth.​

Defending how slavery was usually administered is not the same thing as defending slavery itself. If my daughter were abducted, I would never condone her abduction; however, I would be willing to admit that her abductors did not abuse her, if that were indeed the case. To put it another way, I would never excuse her abductors for their crime, but I would acknowledge that they did not abuse her while they held her captive. Similarly, slavery was wrong no matter how humanely it was usually administered, but let us be willing to admit that most slaves were not brutalized, if that was in fact the case. ( SLAVERY AND SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE )​

Humm, now that's very different from the smear you were trying to get away with.

 

[bripat9643]

You are delusional. Seriously. ...

Said the guy famous for telling us "not enough people talk about the *good* aspects of slavery..."

That's dishonest distortion, and you know it. Here is the passage from which you have inaccurately quoted me:

So what are the facts about slavery in the South? Did any good come from slavery? Did slavery have any good aspects? Did all slaveowners mistreat their slaves? The subject of slavery in the antebellum (i.e., pre-Civil War) South is a delicate, highly charged issue because history books and documentaries have usually only told one side of the story. The recent PBS documentary Slavery and the Making of America is a prime example of the one-sided, misleading, and incomplete portrayals of Southern slavery that are usually presented to the public. I'm not trying to justify slavery. All I'm saying is that if we're going to talk about slavery, let's be factual about it.​

Most history books and documentaries that discuss slavery are full of tragic stories about the bad aspects of slavery, but they rarely mention the good aspects of the institution. Historians typically cite the worst cases of mistreatment and abuse but ignore or minimize the far more numerous cases of humane treatment, mutual respect, and genuine friendship. True, the good aspects of slavery don't outweigh the fact that slavery was wrong, but they should be noted in the interest of fairness and historical truth.​

Defending how slavery was usually administered is not the same thing as defending slavery itself. If my daughter were abducted, I would never condone her abduction; however, I would be willing to admit that her abductors did not abuse her, if that were indeed the case. To put it another way, I would never excuse her abductors for their crime, but I would acknowledge that they did not abuse her while they held her captive. Similarly, slavery was wrong no matter how humanely it was usually administered, but let us be willing to admit that most slaves were not brutalized, if that was in fact the case. ( SLAVERY AND SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE )​

Humm, now that's very different from the smear you were trying to get away with.

Paperview is a lying scumbag. He accused me of supporting slavery because I said Lincoln had no justification for invading Virginia.

That's the kind of lying weasel he is.

 

[bripat9643]

Poll Majority of Americans side with LGBT rights over religious freedom LGBTQ Nation

A new national poll finds that a majority of Americans believe businesses should not be allowed to refuse services based on their religious beliefs, suggesting a split over the issue between voters and some of the politicians who represent them.

The Reuters/Ipsos poll released Thursday also found that 52 percent of Americans support allowing same-sex couples to marry, far more than the 32 percent who oppose it.

The poll found solid opposition to allowing businesses to refuse services or refuse to hire people or groups based on religious beliefs.

Fifty-four percent said it was wrong for businesses to refuse services, while 28 percent said they should have that right. And 55 percent said businesses should not have the right to refuse to hire certain people or groups based on the employer’s religious beliefs, while 27 percent said businesses should have the right.

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

The worst thing about our constitutional system of government is that it allows individuals to protect their rights against the majority. It's easy to assert your freedom when the majority is on your side but what happens when that freedom becomes unpopular? It is unfortunate we have this constitution thing that seems to be effective at protecting unpopular actions that individual like such as looking at porn on the Internet.

Erm, no. Our form of government was set up to mitigate against the "tyranny of the majority". It allows minorities to have a voice in how they are governed. That said, where the majority is right, they are right. Hard to get around that.

Gays had a voice, and the majority overruled them.

 

[mikegriffith1]

You are delusional. Seriously. ...

Said the guy famous for telling us "not enough people talk about the *good* aspects of slavery..."

That's dishonest distortion, and you know it. Here is the passage from which you have inaccurately quoted me:

So what are the facts about slavery in the South? Did any good come from slavery? Did slavery have any good aspects? Did all slaveowners mistreat their slaves? The subject of slavery in the antebellum (i.e., pre-Civil War) South is a delicate, highly charged issue because history books and documentaries have usually only told one side of the story. The recent PBS documentary Slavery and the Making of America is a prime example of the one-sided, misleading, and incomplete portrayals of Southern slavery that are usually presented to the public. I'm not trying to justify slavery. All I'm saying is that if we're going to talk about slavery, let's be factual about it.​

Most history books and documentaries that discuss slavery are full of tragic stories about the bad aspects of slavery, but they rarely mention the good aspects of the institution. Historians typically cite the worst cases of mistreatment and abuse but ignore or minimize the far more numerous cases of humane treatment, mutual respect, and genuine friendship. True, the good aspects of slavery don't outweigh the fact that slavery was wrong, but they should be noted in the interest of fairness and historical truth.​

Defending how slavery was usually administered is not the same thing as defending slavery itself. If my daughter were abducted, I would never condone her abduction; however, I would be willing to admit that her abductors did not abuse her, if that were indeed the case. To put it another way, I would never excuse her abductors for their crime, but I would acknowledge that they did not abuse her while they held her captive. Similarly, slavery was wrong no matter how humanely it was usually administered, but let us be willing to admit that most slaves were not brutalized, if that was in fact the case. ( SLAVERY AND SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE )​

Humm, now that's very different from the smear you were trying to get away with.

Paperview is a lying scumbag. He accused me of supporting slavery because I said Lincoln had no justification for invading Virginia.

That's the kind of lying weasel he is.

And I'd bet very good money that he supports legalized elective abortion, i.e., abortion that is not done for reasons or rape, incest, or endangerment. Anyone who supports keeping elective abortion legal has no business attacking slavery, especially since they use the same kinds of arguments to defend legalized elective abortion that slavery apologists used to defend keeping slavery legal. They are hypocrites of the worst order.

 

[thanatos144]

You are delusional. Seriously. ...

Said the guy famous for telling us "not enough people talk about the *good* aspects of slavery..."

That's dishonest distortion, and you know it. Here is the passage from which you have inaccurately quoted me:

So what are the facts about slavery in the South? Did any good come from slavery? Did slavery have any good aspects? Did all slaveowners mistreat their slaves? The subject of slavery in the antebellum (i.e., pre-Civil War) South is a delicate, highly charged issue because history books and documentaries have usually only told one side of the story. The recent PBS documentary Slavery and the Making of America is a prime example of the one-sided, misleading, and incomplete portrayals of Southern slavery that are usually presented to the public. I'm not trying to justify slavery. All I'm saying is that if we're going to talk about slavery, let's be factual about it.​

Most history books and documentaries that discuss slavery are full of tragic stories about the bad aspects of slavery, but they rarely mention the good aspects of the institution. Historians typically cite the worst cases of mistreatment and abuse but ignore or minimize the far more numerous cases of humane treatment, mutual respect, and genuine friendship. True, the good aspects of slavery don't outweigh the fact that slavery was wrong, but they should be noted in the interest of fairness and historical truth.​

Defending how slavery was usually administered is not the same thing as defending slavery itself. If my daughter were abducted, I would never condone her abduction; however, I would be willing to admit that her abductors did not abuse her, if that were indeed the case. To put it another way, I would never excuse her abductors for their crime, but I would acknowledge that they did not abuse her while they held her captive. Similarly, slavery was wrong no matter how humanely it was usually administered, but let us be willing to admit that most slaves were not brutalized, if that was in fact the case. ( SLAVERY AND SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE )​

Humm, now that's very different from the smear you were trying to get away with.

Paperview is a lying scumbag. He accused me of supporting slavery because I said Lincoln had no justification for invading Virginia.

That's the kind of lying weasel he is.

You do support slavery because you support confederates.

 

[bripat9643]

You are delusional. Seriously. ...

Said the guy famous for telling us "not enough people talk about the *good* aspects of slavery..."

That's dishonest distortion, and you know it. Here is the passage from which you have inaccurately quoted me:

So what are the facts about slavery in the South? Did any good come from slavery? Did slavery have any good aspects? Did all slaveowners mistreat their slaves? The subject of slavery in the antebellum (i.e., pre-Civil War) South is a delicate, highly charged issue because history books and documentaries have usually only told one side of the story. The recent PBS documentary Slavery and the Making of America is a prime example of the one-sided, misleading, and incomplete portrayals of Southern slavery that are usually presented to the public. I'm not trying to justify slavery. All I'm saying is that if we're going to talk about slavery, let's be factual about it.​

Most history books and documentaries that discuss slavery are full of tragic stories about the bad aspects of slavery, but they rarely mention the good aspects of the institution. Historians typically cite the worst cases of mistreatment and abuse but ignore or minimize the far more numerous cases of humane treatment, mutual respect, and genuine friendship. True, the good aspects of slavery don't outweigh the fact that slavery was wrong, but they should be noted in the interest of fairness and historical truth.​

Defending how slavery was usually administered is not the same thing as defending slavery itself. If my daughter were abducted, I would never condone her abduction; however, I would be willing to admit that her abductors did not abuse her, if that were indeed the case. To put it another way, I would never excuse her abductors for their crime, but I would acknowledge that they did not abuse her while they held her captive. Similarly, slavery was wrong no matter how humanely it was usually administered, but let us be willing to admit that most slaves were not brutalized, if that was in fact the case. ( SLAVERY AND SOUTHERN INDEPENDENCE )​

Humm, now that's very different from the smear you were trying to get away with.

Paperview is a lying scumbag. He accused me of supporting slavery because I said Lincoln had no justification for invading Virginia.

That's the kind of lying weasel he is.

You do support slavery because you support confederates.

That's the kind of idiocy we have come to expect from brainwashed Obama drones like you.

 

[BluesLegend]

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

Ahahahaha oh no they don't lol you libs are funny

You said it, so it must be true. Oh wait...

I know its mean but I can't help but laugh at the mentally ill left sometimes. That is some funny stuff you posted, religious right a small minority that's some 600lb projection right there. lol

 

[orogenicman]

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

Ahahahaha oh no they don't lol you libs are funny

You said it, so it must be true. Oh wait...

I know its mean but I can't help but laugh at the mentally ill left sometimes. That is some funny stuff you posted, religious right a small minority that's some 600lb projection right there. lol

I don't know about the 600 lbs projection, but the fact that the religious right is a small minority is not in question.

 

[Freewill]

Erm, let's see, a Catholic Marist Poll shows results in opposition to an independent poll conducted by a secular newspaper. Wow, big surprise. Or not.

Yeah, I agree, that secular newspaper tilted the results, glad you noticed.

 

[Freewill]

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

Ahahahaha oh no they don't lol you libs are funny

You said it, so it must be true. Oh wait...

I know its mean but I can't help but laugh at the mentally ill left sometimes. That is some funny stuff you posted, religious right a small minority that's some 600lb projection right there. lol

I don't know about the 600 lbs projection, but the fact that the religious right is a small minority is not in question.

Not in question because your mind is not open for business.

According to this site 78 percent of Americans associated with being Christian. Assuming that only 1/2 of them are on the right that still leaves 39 percent. Hardly a small minority no matter what way you split it.

Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion Public Life

 

[BluesLegend]

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

Ahahahaha oh no they don't lol you libs are funny

You said it, so it must be true. Oh wait...

I know its mean but I can't help but laugh at the mentally ill left sometimes. That is some funny stuff you posted, religious right a small minority that's some 600lb projection right there. lol

I don't know about the 600 lbs projection, but the fact that the religious right is a small minority is not in question.

I'm sure it makes sense in the world you invented inside your head, here in the real world however...

 

[BluesLegend]

Looks like the American people disagree with the religious right (who have, after all, always been a small minority) on this issue.

Ahahahaha oh no they don't lol you libs are funny

You said it, so it must be true. Oh wait...

I know its mean but I can't help but laugh at the mentally ill left sometimes. That is some funny stuff you posted, religious right a small minority that's some 600lb projection right there. lol

I don't know about the 600 lbs projection, but the fact that the religious right is a small minority is not in question.

Not in question because your mind is not open for business.

According to this site 78 percent of Americans associated with being Christian. Assuming that only 1/2 of them are on the right that still leaves 39 percent. Hardly a small minority no matter what way you split it.

Statistics on Religion in America Report -- Pew Forum on Religion Public Life

Lying left wing progressive liberal communists on the other hand, small minority.

 

[LogikAndReazon]

Christians forced to go against their beliefs by the homo mafia should advertise in their stores that any profit gained from that business will be donated to the pro-traditional marriage lobby.

Excellent idea !!!