Poll: Americans Think Terrorists Want Kerry

[Avatar4321]

you've yet to teach me a single anything about how terrorists are afraid of bush. it's thing kind of rhetoric NONSENSE hyped-up fear tactic that the current admin employs to keep the average ignorant american in check. i'm embarrassed for our people.

Well if I were a terrorist, id deffinately be more afraid fo a man who was willing to kill me to defend himself than one that was willing to grovel before his friends to get permission to stand up for himself. Al Queda and other terrorists also fear Democracy. They think the people are idiots and that they know better then them so they have to use force to get the power they want. Having two more nations where the people have power is something that would frighten terrorists because if the people have the power to determine their own future, their own leaders, etc they will lose power and men willing to fight for the cause. Now if you were terrorists wouldnt you be afraid of a man who was going to kill you and free the people who are holding in igorances or would you be afraid of the guy who is going to bend over and appease the terrorists? We already know thats Kerry's plan. we have talked about his statements saying that on another thread already.

 

[winston churchi]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Now if you were terrorists wouldnt you be afraid of a man who was going to kill you and free the people who are holding in igorances or would you be afraid of the guy who is going to bend over and appease the terrorists? We already know thats Kerry's plan. we have talked about his statements saying that on another thread already.

This is also true. No negotiating with terrorists!

According to sources I have read this is Kerrys intention.

 

[spillmind]

Name calling again.

PROVE how terrorists are afraid of bush, and i'll not only retract that statement, but i will consider MYSELF ignorant. i'll be waiting with baited breath.

Come on Jim, you can plainly see his frustration, because no one in any position of authority takes him seriously

AUTHORITY??? :rotflmao: are you guys some kind of 'us message board officials'??!!! (that would explain a lot)
say it ain't so!

Mr. Jong-il is an apparent supporter of Mr. Kerry - should sound scary? Of course you know his country is one of several that support terrorism. Mr. Jong-il supports terrorism and Kerry. Why?

shun attempts at trying to work out relations with korea. of course, when powell had a go at it, it was ok with you, right? get real, man. a little consitency would be nice. you really think that NK is trying to become buddies with kerry for their own hidden ideals? talk about living in fear ...i'd guess they hate bush because he called them ALL 'evil'!!!! ...another amazingly simple concept!

Well if I were a terrorist, id deffinately be more afraid fo a man who was willing to kill me to defend himself than one that was willing to grovel before his friends to get permission to stand up for himself.

ok OK! seriously, now... let's look at this statement. *snicker*

Bush never saw battle. OK? Kerry did, he even put himslef in harm's way to save fellow americans. what's the CLOSEST bush has EVER GOTTEN to that? flying onto an aircraft carrier with viagra induced swagger?! ! get serious!!!

bush's father invaded iraq because iraq INVADED kuwait, there was international support, and virtually every single mitlitary action since then (until iraq) has followed suit!!!! what is so damned cowardly about that??!!

Al Queda and other terrorists also fear Democracy.

i would buy the 'fear the westernization', but i don't think they fear democracy per se. furthermore, there is no way to prove this broad general statement.

Now if you were terrorists wouldnt you be afraid of a man who was going to kill you and free the people who are holding in igorances or would you be afraid of the guy who is going to bend over and appease the terrorists?

i can't speak for al qaeda with the expertise that you wield, but i doubt they are afraid of committing suicide for their cause. is there anything you feel strongly enough for you to blow yourself up for? regardless if you agree with the reason or not? while i don't agree with this manner of going about things, it is a compelling issue.

i'm not sure exactly what you mean by 'bend over and appease the terrorists'.... please do elaborate. i didn't know that kissing al qaeda's collective ass was his current presidential campaign platform.

 

[eric]

are you guys some kind of 'us message board officials

Nah, not a US Message board offical, but you can be damn sure the people make our laws open an ear when people in my circle speak. Where do you think all that wonderful soft money comes from ?

Fear not though, I am sure your grandmother values your opinion ! Must be frustrating when you know your voice just gets lost in the crowd !

but i will consider MYSELF ignorant

Why not, everyone else does !

i'd guess they hate bush because he called them ALL 'evil'!!!! ...another amazingly simple concept

Hey I have an even simpler concept, that even you might understand, how about the fact that what they really want is payoff money for the US and they see Bush ain't givin ! So why not buddy up to a likely liberal candidate like Kerry, got that son ?

but i don't think they fear democracy per se

Talk about wet behind the ears, please tell me you don't believe this. What totalitarian authority does not fear democracy ?

 

[Zhukov]

Originally posted by Avatar4321
Well if I were a terrorist, id deffinately be more afraid fo a man who was willing to kill me to defend himself than one that was willing to grovel before his friends to get permission to stand up for himself.

Originally posted by spillmind
Bush never saw battle. OK? Kerry did, he even put himslef in harm's way to save fellow americans. what's the CLOSEST bush has EVER GOTTEN to that

Flying fighter jets is not exactly safe, but how about when he flew into Baghdad to wish our soldiers Happy Thanksgiving?


It's irrelvant however as it doesn't address Avatar's point, now does it?

 

[spillmind]

(off the subject)

Flying fighter jets is not exactly safe, but how about when he flew into Baghdad to wish our soldiers Happy Thanksgiving?

oh? did he fly himself? WHAT A BRAVE MAN!!! I GUESS THAT COUNTS!

Nah, not a US Message board offical, but you can be damn sure the people make our laws open an ear when people in my circle speak. Where do you think all that wonderful soft money comes from ?

is this that 'democracy' you speak of? your idle threats only show the weakness of your arguement, and you've shown that you can't prove your ridiculous claim.

i'll personally work toward the democracy i've grown to admire and love, not this 1984esque soft money oppressing infrastructure you are trying to scare people with. save it for someone who takes that crap seriously. and you wonder where anti-americanism comes from? you just demonstrated it! oppression in sheep's clothing. way to go, buddy.

but i will consider MYSELF ignorant
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Why not, everyone else does !

...and you're replying to my post. what's that say about you? now can you back up that nonsense about terrorists fearing bush?

Hey I have an even simpler concept, that even you might understand, how about the fact that what they really want is payoff money for the US and they see Bush ain't givin ! So why not buddy up to a likely liberal candidate like Kerry, got that son ?

how much aid have we given to countries that we at one time our former advesaries? i don't see you crying about libya. nuff said.

Talk about wet behind the ears, please tell me you don't believe this. What totalitarian authority does not fear democracy ?

i guess a little clarification is in order. per se: 'by itself' i think it's more accurate to say that a western serving governing body is what they fear.

the sunnis are trying to use this 'democracy' thing to their own advantage right now!

 

[spillmind]

Like I said Spilly you too are a Embarassment to us!

hah!!! :rotflmao:
that's pretty good, arnold! too bad i don't have all your pics to play with!

 

[Zhukov]

spilly
oh? did he fly himself?

Yes, he flew fighter jets for the National Guard in the late 60's early 70's. However I must admit that by the time he left the Guard only 70 pilots had died flying the same plane as the President. Specifically this type, the F-102 Delta Dagger, in which he logged hundreds of flight hours in his nearly 6 years of service.

 

[spillmind]

i was referring to:

Flying fighter jets is not exactly safe, but how about when he flew into Baghdad to wish our soldiers Happy Thanksgiving?

which happened to be the current subject... i'm well aware of the time he put in at the texas national guard.

too bad we've been reduced to debating this topic- of all things

 

[Zhukov]

You said kerry went to war and asked how close to danger Bush came, I answered you.

spilly
Kerry did, he even put himslef in harm's way to save fellow americans. what's the CLOSEST bush has EVER GOTTEN to that

1.) flying jets in the service of his country

2.) flying into Baghdad for Thanksgiving

That's the closest he's gotten to that. Ok?

debating this topic

It isn't a topic for debate. These are factual events.

 

[winston churchi]

I am not sure what sort of information Spillmind is looking for. When answered he wants more...so there are many people out there that, like myself included, have made up their mind about certain things.

For one, my comment on Jong-il speaks volumes about terrorism, Bush and Kerry. If you choose to overlook this than that is a choice you make assuming that it has no relevance over anything.
To me it does - quite strongly too.

I do not need any proof of Bush against terrorism - we fight it the best way we can.

I do need proof of Kerry though - and I know I will never recieve that. I am not badgering anyone anymore for proof of anything Kerry stands for - I do mean anything - because no one seems to provide it. That is a lost cause.

There are supporters of him simply because he is not Bush. Bush is wrong at everything no matter what it is - and that is how the world is viewed.

You can name call - it is not the first time anyone has resorted to that.

Somedays in the future the shelves will be bombarded with history books written with many different points of view of todays world just as it has in the past. You read one history book, your have one point of view, you read many, you form your own.

So you have formed your own opinions on what is what is not and you live your life on that. More proof for you in anything - I cannot help you with that. You see what you want to see and for you that is okay.

 

[Zhukov]

I think we all know why Kim supports Kerry.

If Kerry were truly a principled man, and a man worthy of being President he would have the sense to make a statement along the lines assuring North Korea that a Kerry Presidency is not going to be an easy way out of the situation they are currently in. Whether he means it or not. He should realize it is important not to compromise the authority of the office of the President. He also should have come out after the Spanish elections and made a statement about how a Kerry Presidency wouldn't back off the war of terror if terrorists were thinking about pulling a Madrid in the U.S. before our elections.

Unfortunately Kerry is neither a principled man nor worthy of the office of the Presidency, as he never ceases to prove to us time and time again.