Poll: Americans Overwhelmingly Oppose Trump's Strikes on Iran

[jknowgood]

Kinda like getting rid of Saddam

Did that do shit?

He is getting rid of all the one the list to take over.

 

[ThisIsMe]

Members of Congress will vote next week to support the war or not.

Voters in November will remember
We are tired of this crap

Were you tired of it when Obama did it?

 

[rightwinger]

Were you tired of it when Obama did it?

Why do Conservatives suck at comparables?

 

[Delldude]

Why do Conservatives suck at comparables?

Oh, it's ok when your boys do it.

 

[Delldude]

 

[Ringo]

Ivan Shmelev, candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature.

"I am so inspired by the events of June 22 (1941), the great feat of the knight who raised his sword against the devil. I firmly believe that strong bonds of brotherhood will henceforth unite both great nations(germans & russians). Great suffering purifies and elevates. Lord, how my heart beats with unspeakable joy."

After the revolution, Shmelev emigrated first to Berlin, then to Paris. Living in occupied Paris, he actively collaborated with the Nazis and published a Nazi newspaper. In the newspaper, he wrote, among other things, that “the devil's front has been broken near Vyazma, before Moscow, the armies are surrounded, the slaughter is underway.” And at that time, very young men were dying there. They were dying for the Motherland, to which he wanted to return.
In the end, he was so obsessed with his hatred for everything Soviet that his friends turned away from him. The Germans were driven out of Paris, and the war ended. He died in Paris, alone and in poverty, because after the war, no one was interested in a Russian oppositionist. And his homeland did not want him back, because he had said too many bad things about it.

Dmitry Merezhkovsky, another candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1933, was also anti-soviet:

“Hitler is fighting communism. Whoever slays the dragon must be an archangel or, at least, an angel. Marxism is the Antichrist, anti-Marxism is the anti-Antichrist.”

In general, Merezhkovsky wrote quite a lot on the subject of Christ and the Antichrist, later comparing Stalin to the latter. Like the previous writer, Merezhkovsky also emigrated. Secretly, under cover of night, using forged documents.
And then, abroad, he began to proclaim: “Europe must understand that Bolshevism is not only a Russian evil, but a global one.” And this was on the eve of war.
In Paris, Merezhkovsky organized an anti-communist union and gave lectures on the evils of Russia throughout France. As he himself said, “I would prefer that Russia did not exist at all.”
Over time, European patrons stopped paying benefits to Russian emigrants. At first, his financial situation deteriorated, and then became completely dire. He was saved by his former connections and invitations to various banquets where he could eat.
As a result, Merezhkovsky began to say things like, “Freedom of speech is good, but what use is this freedom to me without Russia?”
After such statements, doors were closed to him everywhere, and funding ceased completely.
But then the war began, and he decided to rectify the situation—he appeared on French radio, spending half an hour praising Hitler and cursing Stalin.
After this act, absolutely all Russian emigrants turned their backs on him, and the Germans had no use for him. He had no money, was destitute, hungry, and slept in a shelter for the poor. He died in December 1941 in Paris. Only a few people attended his funeral.

 

[yidnar]

It was Trump who brought up never ending war in Iran
You need to keep up

since your track record on what's going to happen is absolutely abysmal, its a good indicator that the military operations will end in a few weeks..

 

[rightwinger]

since your track record on what's going to happen is absolutely abysmal, its a good indicator that the military operations will end in a few weeks..

Mission Accomplished
I have seen premature Victory Dances before

I saw how in Vietnam they promised the boys would be home by Christmas, then the next Christmas, then the next Christmas until 60,000 died

I saw George Bush triumphantly land on an aircraft carrier to celebrate an easy victory. Only to have 3000 killed afterwards.

I saw us easily rout the Taliban then spend 20 years and 2000 deaths to give Afghanistan back.

 

[yidnar]

Mission Accomplished
I have seen premature Victory Dances before

I saw how in Vietnam they promised the boys would be home by Christmas, then the next Christmas, then the next Christmas until 60,000 died

I saw George Bush triumphantly land on an aircraft carrier to celebrate an easy victory. Only to have 3000 killed afterwards.

I saw us easily rout the Taliban then spend 20 years and 2000 deaths to give Afghanistan back.

this isn't the same moron ! wheres the buildup of US ground troops ! there are none ! did you know that an Iranian war ship sought refuge in a foreign country today ?? that's technically a surrender .. this will be over in a few weeks ! and if the Iranian people are able to rise up and retake their country after 47 yrs of oppression and the ME is much more stable due to said possibilities .. strong possibilities .. then Trump just may get his face carved into Mnt Rushmore ! MAGA !

 

[rightwinger]

this isn't the same moron ! wheres the buildup of US ground troops ! there are none ! did you know that an Iranian war ship sought refuge in a foreign country today ?? that's technically a surrender .. this will be over in a few weeks ! and if the Iranian people are able to rise up and retake their country after 47 yrs of oppression and the ME is much more stable due to said possibilities .. strong possibilities .. then Trump just may get his face carved into Mnt Rushmore ! MAGA !

That is Trumps biggest challenge.
Attempting a meaningful regime change without boots on the ground
His call on Iranians to rise up and seize control of the government is nearly impossible with a population that has withstood the brutality of those in power.
Trump has created a power void with the forces of Democracy unlikely to win.

 

[yidnar]

That is Trumps biggest challenge.
Attempting a meaningful regime change without boots on the ground
His call on Iranians to rise up and seize control of the government is nearly impossible with a population that has withstood the brutality of those in power.

said populace bravely hit the streets in the hundreds of thousands a few weeks ago .. over 30 thousand were killed by the lefts Islamofascist ally .. they will retake their freedom ! cry harder commie ..

AI Overview



The "Red-Green alliance" refers to a strategic, often opportunistic partnership between far-left, anti-capitalist, and anti-imperialist groups with Islamist, anti-Western movements
. Despite deep ideological contradictions, they unite against shared enemies, particularly U.S. foreign policy and neo-liberal globalization.

 

[rightwinger]

said populace bravely hit the streets in the hundreds of thousands a few weeks ago .. over 30 thousand were killed by the lefts Islamofascist ally .. they will retake their freedom ! cry harder commie ..

AI Overview



The "Red-Green alliance" refers to a strategic, often opportunistic partnership between far-left, anti-capitalist, and anti-imperialist groups with Islamist, anti-Western movements
. Despite deep ideological contradictions, they unite against shared enemies, particularly U.S. foreign policy and neo-liberal globalization.

Trump is lazy.
He expects a favorable regime change without doing the work.

Just remove the head of state and expect the best

What makes him think Iran will embrace a US/Israel alliance?
Russia is more likely

 

[georgephillip]

“Just one in four Americans supports the Trump administration's ongoing strikes on Iran, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Sunday.”

Poll: Americans Overwhelmingly Oppose Trump’s Strikes on Iran

Only 27 percent of respondents to a Reuters/Ipsos poll said they approved of the attacks.

www.motherjones.com

And of course many who disapprove of Trump’s unwarranted, illegal war voted for Trump – the stupidity of voting for Trump.

They should have known that Trump was lying about keeping America out of war in the ME, or anywhere else, that Trump was lying about being the ‘candidate of peace.’

Trump promised no wars. Now he’s a Bush-style regime change president | Mohamad Bazzi

The America First president who built his political brand on opposing foreign military adventures has unleashed a war of choice aimed at regime change

www.theguardian.com

If you are tired of Trump's pathological lying, keep Saturday March 29 in mind:

No Kings: Rise Up for Democracy on March 28

 

[ThisIsMe]

Why do Conservatives suck at comparables?

How so?

 

[Delldude]

Ivan Shmelev, candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature.

"I am so inspired by the events of June 22 (1941), the great feat of the knight who raised his sword against the devil. I firmly believe that strong bonds of brotherhood will henceforth unite both great nations(germans & russians). Great suffering purifies and elevates. Lord, how my heart beats with unspeakable joy."

After the revolution, Shmelev emigrated first to Berlin, then to Paris. Living in occupied Paris, he actively collaborated with the Nazis and published a Nazi newspaper. In the newspaper, he wrote, among other things, that “the devil's front has been broken near Vyazma, before Moscow, the armies are surrounded, the slaughter is underway.” And at that time, very young men were dying there. They were dying for the Motherland, to which he wanted to return.
In the end, he was so obsessed with his hatred for everything Soviet that his friends turned away from him. The Germans were driven out of Paris, and the war ended. He died in Paris, alone and in poverty, because after the war, no one was interested in a Russian oppositionist. And his homeland did not want him back, because he had said too many bad things about it.

Dmitry Merezhkovsky, another candidate for the Nobel Prize in Literature in 1933, was also anti-soviet:

“Hitler is fighting communism. Whoever slays the dragon must be an archangel or, at least, an angel. Marxism is the Antichrist, anti-Marxism is the anti-Antichrist.”

In general, Merezhkovsky wrote quite a lot on the subject of Christ and the Antichrist, later comparing Stalin to the latter. Like the previous writer, Merezhkovsky also emigrated. Secretly, under cover of night, using forged documents.
And then, abroad, he began to proclaim: “Europe must understand that Bolshevism is not only a Russian evil, but a global one.” And this was on the eve of war.
In Paris, Merezhkovsky organized an anti-communist union and gave lectures on the evils of Russia throughout France. As he himself said, “I would prefer that Russia did not exist at all.”
Over time, European patrons stopped paying benefits to Russian emigrants. At first, his financial situation deteriorated, and then became completely dire. He was saved by his former connections and invitations to various banquets where he could eat.
As a result, Merezhkovsky began to say things like, “Freedom of speech is good, but what use is this freedom to me without Russia?”
After such statements, doors were closed to him everywhere, and funding ceased completely.
But then the war began, and he decided to rectify the situation—he appeared on French radio, spending half an hour praising Hitler and cursing Stalin.
After this act, absolutely all Russian emigrants turned their backs on him, and the Germans had no use for him. He had no money, was destitute, hungry, and slept in a shelter for the poor. He died in December 1941 in Paris. Only a few people attended his funeral.

Just think, 700,000 democrat Trump voters now.

 

[PeterPilot]

You didn't see the list of past presidents who entered major engagements without congressional approval?

Yes I did. I lived through them, spent my year in Vietnam. Medacity is the modus operandi of the Pentagon and the rest of the federal government, and the Pentagon Papers proved it.

Your point is valid--numerous administrations have violated the letter and spirit of the US Constitution. Trump is not the first one, but that doesn't make what he's done become legal.

 

[Delldude]

Trump is not the first one, but that doesn't make what he's done become legal.

And it hasn't been determined to be 'illegal' either.

 

[PeterPilot]

And it hasn't been determined to be 'illegal' either.

Not by your tortured mind, no. But as told by numerous patriotic judges and legal experts it's illegal. I've read and studied the US Constitution for decades, took the oath to defend it in 1969. I'm no lawyer, but just as Bush Jr. & Co were war criminals, so too is Trump & Co.

 

[JLW]

We are not just "striking" Iran, we are at war with Iran. A war no one but Trump and MAGA wanted.

 

[PeterPilot]

We are not just "striking" Iran, we are at war with Iran. A war no one but rump and MAGA wanted.

And Israel wanted...