Politics at play in Investigation.

[RetiredGySgt]

Cheney has it exactly right.

Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did' | 44 | washingtonpost.com

 

[rightwinger]

So lets check the score..

Whitewater, a realestate deal that the Clintons lost money on was investigated for five years with no findings........NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

Monica Gate, a daliance between consenting adults lead to a full scale impeachment proceeding with no finding.......NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

The Bush administration engages in outright torture in violation of international laws and all semblance of humanity...........THATS NOT FAIR...THATS POLITICAL

If we feel its "Political" why don't we turn the evidence over to a neutral international tribunal and let them decide?

 

[elvis]

So lets check the score..

Whitewater, a realestate deal that the Clintons lost money on was investigated for five years with no findings........NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

Monica Gate, a daliance between consenting adults lead to a full scale impeachment proceeding with no finding.......NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

The Bush administration engages in outright torture in violation of international laws and all semblance of humanity...........THATS NOT FAIR...THATS POLITICAL

If we feel its "Political" why don't we turn the evidence over to a neutral international tribunal and let them decide?

clinton lied to a grand jury, numbnuts.

 

[rightwinger]

clinton lied to a grand jury, numbnuts.

Cheney ordered TORTURE, numbnuts

 

[elvis]

clinton lied to a grand jury, numbnuts.

Cheney ordered TORTURE, numbnuts

well at least you tell the truth about one issue.

 

[EriktheRed]

Cheney has it exactly right.

Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did' | 44 | washingtonpost.com

And Cheney has how much cred at this point?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

clinton lied to a grand jury, numbnuts.

Cheney ordered TORTURE, numbnuts

No he didn't.

 

[Ravi]

He's proud that he broke the law and now he's crying that he might be held accountable.

If he were really proud he'd happily go to prison.

 

[Annie]

Cheney has it exactly right.

Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did' | 44 | washingtonpost.com

And Cheney has how much cred at this point?

Well the WaPo seems to think Cheney got the effectiveness right, if not the methods. I guess it's just a coincidence that there weren't further attacks?

washingtonpost.com

 

[goldcatt]

The problem with all this is that the torture techniques were, by all accounts, not used often or long enough to really credit them with "effectiveness" or to claim it was a widespread "program" of torture. Yes, I think ordering them was wrong, but from what I understand (and there's a lot of conflicting information out there) the order was rather quickly rescinded years ago over Cheney's objections. On this one, IMO Bush at least tried to do the right thing - even if it was too little, too late.
The only person who may merit an investigation at this point is the DOJ "attorney" who authorized the order to begin with, and I'm not sure I support even that. It's too late and looks too political now. McCain was right, the worst part of it was the image problem and recruiting factor once it became public. But again, it's too little, too late and too political to fix that now. Obama was right on this one. Just stop doing it and let sleeping dogs lie.

 

[editec]

He's proud that he broke the law and now he's crying that he might be held accountable.

If he were really proud he'd happily go to prison.

Spot on.

 

[goldcatt]

He's proud that he broke the law and now he's crying that he might be held accountable.

If he were really proud he'd happily go to prison.

Spot on.

Ideally, maybe.
But do you want healthcare reform? How much political capital do you think Obama and the Dems have, and is this really what you want to spend it on?
That's why even though I tend to lean left I'm not a Dem, by and large they think they have infinite resources and have no concept of the word "prioritizing".

 

[rightwinger]

He's proud that he broke the law and now he's crying that he might be held accountable.

If he were really proud he'd happily go to prison.

Spot on.

Ideally, maybe.
But do you want healthcare reform? How much political capital do you think Obama and the Dems have, and is this really what you want to spend it on?
That's why even though I tend to lean left I'm not a Dem, by and large they think they have infinite resources and have no concept of the word "prioritizing".

Healthcare reform is a critical program for this country, but I don't think you sell your soul to get it. The fact that the US openly engaged in torture and blessed the procedure will be a black stain on us for generations. Its not something you bargain away in a backroom session

 

[EriktheRed]

Cheney has it exactly right.

Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did' | 44 | washingtonpost.com

And Cheney has how much cred at this point?

Well the WaPo seems to think Cheney got the effectiveness right, if not the methods. I guess it's just a coincidence that there weren't further attacks?

washingtonpost.com

When I stopped dropping acid the polka-dot snakes went away, too.

 

[Xenophon]

They don't call him Dick for nothing!

 

[rightwinger]

I think Dick Cheney has a point here. We really can't trust the Obama administration to investigate allegations of torture. Obama's political agenda keeps him from being objective.

We need to gather all the evidence and turn it over to the World Court. Let The Hague weigh in if Cheneys interrogation techniques were as humane as he claims they are. If Cheney is right, he has nothing to fear.

 

[concept]

Cheney has it exactly right.

Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did' | 44 | washingtonpost.com

Yahoo has had Cheney's mug on their home page over the weekend. Each shot they had of him, made him look like he was screaming in rage.

Gotta love the msm.

 

[concept]

So lets check the score..

Whitewater, a realestate deal that the Clintons lost money on was investigated for five years with no findings........NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

Monica Gate, a daliance between consenting adults lead to a full scale impeachment proceeding with no finding.......NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

The Bush administration engages in outright torture in violation of international laws and all semblance of humanity...........THATS NOT FAIR...THATS POLITICAL

If we feel its "Political" why don't we turn the evidence over to a neutral international tribunal and let them decide?

What torture did we engage in?

What international laws?

 

[Dr.House]

Cheney has it exactly right.

Cheney: 'I'm Very Proud of What We Did' | 44 | washingtonpost.com

And Cheney has how much cred at this point?

More than you... How sad is that?

 

[rightwinger]

So lets check the score..

Whitewater, a realestate deal that the Clintons lost money on was investigated for five years with no findings........NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

Monica Gate, a daliance between consenting adults lead to a full scale impeachment proceeding with no finding.......NO THATS NOT POLITICAL

The Bush administration engages in outright torture in violation of international laws and all semblance of humanity...........THATS NOT FAIR...THATS POLITICAL

If we feel its "Political" why don't we turn the evidence over to a neutral international tribunal and let them decide?

What torture did we engage in?

What international laws?

Why, we didn't engage in ANY torture. Thats why we have nothing to fear from an independent international investigation