Political outcome of 80 million employees losing

[healthmyths]

Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted.
"Administration estimated that approximately 78 million Americans with employer sponsored insurance would lose their existing coverage due to the ACA.
Almost 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage canceled, experts predict | Fox News

This will cost the democrat party the house, begin FAST track of Obama's impeachment and disgraced resignation!

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Lets hope so.

 

[Mr. H.]

The shit has yet to rain down. There's a backlash brewing the likes of which our Nation hasn't before seen.

 

[healthmyths]

The ONLY reason die-hard Obamacare supporters hang on to this disaster is they are so entrenched in their belief that single payer universal health care is the answer.

YET in spite of the proof that that making 310 million conform to ONE national standard is counter to what these people profess, i.e. power to the poor, etc. they continue to defend. They use Romneycare to counter... but they forget.. that is one state of 6.6 million not 310 million!
And I am sure if the people of Mass. want this that is great! It is THEIR choice for THEIR STATE..

 

[BlindBoo]

Our plan changes nearly every year. Prices always increase and benefits always seem to go down. More limits on prescriptions...etc.

 

[paulitician]

The IRS gonna be all up in the Peeps' business. Even his most loyal Worshippers are gonna be shocked at what's to come. This thing is an awful debacle.

 

[healthmyths]

Our plan changes nearly every year. Prices always increase and benefits always seem to go down. More limits on prescriptions...etc.

Millions of PLANS are NOT cancelled.
The reason for cancellation is the existing plans that as you state would change minutely are changed dramatically both in costs and
in benefits now.

For example when Obama talked so passionately about his Mom's battle with insurance companies (an anecdotal and totally wrong story) that is what people remember... BUT these are the exceptions!

Last summer, a brief stir was caused when a book published by New York Times reporter Janny Scott uncovered an uncomfortable fact about President Obama:
He had been lying about his mother’s health insurance problems.
During the 2008 campaign and throughout the subsequent debate over his signature health care legislation, the president used his mother’s experience as a cancer patient fighting to get coverage to pay for treatment for what her insurer said was a pre-existing condition as an emotional argument to sway skeptics. But as Scott discovered during the course of writing her biography of Anne Dunham, A Singular Woman:
The Untold Story of Barack Obama’s Mother, it turned out that her correspondence showed that “the 1995 dispute concerned a Cigna disability insurance policy and that her actual health insurer had apparently reimbursed most of her medical expenses without argument.”
Obama Still Lying About Mother?s Health Insurance Problem « Commentary Magazine


So again.. who you gonna believe... Obama who said "
"No matter how we reform healthcare, we will keep this promise to the American people," he told the American Medical Assn. in 2009. "If you like your doctor, you will be able to keep your doctor, period. If you like your healthcare plan, you'll be able to keep your healthcare plan, period. No one will take it away, no matter what."
At least Darth Vader was honest about his bait-and-switch: "I am altering the deal. Pray I don't alter it any further." Obama won't even admit he lied.
Obama's big lie - latimes.com

 

[JakeStarkey]

Political outcome of 80 million employees losing

False premise leads to false conclusion. Step along here, nothing to see.

 

[bripat9643]

The ONLY reason die-hard Obamacare supporters hang on to this disaster is they are so entrenched in their belief that single payer universal health care is the answer.

YET in spite of the proof that that making 310 million conform to ONE national standard is counter to what these people profess, i.e. power to the poor, etc. they continue to defend. They use Romneycare to counter... but they forget.. that is one state of 6.6 million not 310 million!
And I am sure if the people of Mass. want this that is great! It is THEIR choice for THEIR STATE..

Romneycare is a disaster, and it's only able to work with subsidies from the federal government.

 

[bripat9643]

Political outcome of 80 million employees losing

False premise leads to false conclusion. Step along here, nothing to see.

Is that what your Democrat overseers tell you to say?

 

[g5000]

Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted.
"Administration estimated that approximately 78 million Americans with employer sponsored insurance would lose their existing coverage due to the ACA.
Almost 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage canceled, experts predict | Fox News

This will cost the democrat party the house, begin FAST track of Obama's impeachment and disgraced resignation!

That link is one of the worst pieces of shit reporting I have seen in a while.

They are wrong, and they got their "facts" wrong.

 

[Newby]

Political outcome of 80 million employees losing

False premise leads to false conclusion. Step along here, nothing to see.

Says the authoritarain, facist brown shirt.

 

[g5000]

According to projections the administration itself issued back in July 2010, it was clear officials knew the impact of ObamaCare three years ago.

In fact, according to the Federal Register, its mid-range estimate was that by the end of 2014, 76 percent of small group plans would be cancelled, along with 55 percent of large employer plans.

This is a flat out lie. This bullshit has been debunked several times on this forum already, but just as I predicted, it will not die since it feeds into what some people desperately want to believe.

The FACTS are that, in 2010, the Obama Administration predicted that 40 to 66 percent of businesses which sponsor health insurance for their employees would lose their grandfather status between 2011 and 2013. Those companies which provided health insurance to their employees before the enactment of the ACA were grandfathered from having to meet the minimum requirements of the ACA. But if they substantially changed their polices after enactment, they lost their grandfather status.


Got that? Would lose their grandfather status, NOT cancel their policies. And the period was from 2011 to the end of 2013. That is what the Obama Adminstration was talking about in the federal register. Go and look for yourselves. They never predictied 80 million people would lose their insurance. Faux News is lying to you. Flat out lying.

But then anyone who listens to Faux News deserves to be lied to.

Well, here we are, the end of 2013. A lot of companies have lost their grandfather status. Have 80 million people been disenrolled from employer sponsored health insurance?


Nope.


Have you bothered to go to your HR department and ask about this?

Probably not. Because you think Faux News is telling you the fair and balanced truth.

Many of you who have employer sponsored insurance may very well be working for a company that has already lost its grandfather status, and yet your company has no intention of cancelling your insurance.

The "experts" who wrote this hack piece of shit don't understand even the simplest workings of this program.

Most companies which sponsor insurance for their employees already provide insurance which EXCEEDS the requirements of the ACA. If they made a change to their policies since the enactment of the ACA, they lost their grandfather status. That DOES NOT automatically imply they will suddenly decide to stop insuring you, and it DOES NOT automatically mean they fall below ACA standards.

Go to your HR department. Don't take the word of Faux News, for chrissakes.

 

[g5000]

Here is the link to the Federal Register: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-06-17/pdf/2010-14488.pdf

Read it, and see for yourselves.

Under this assumption, the Departments’ mid-range estimate is that
66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will
relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013. The low-end estimates
are for 49 percent and 34 percent of small and large employer plans,
respectively, to have relinquished grandfather status, and the high-end
estimates are 80 percent and 64 percent, respectively.

The words "cancel" nor "cancelled" appear anywhere in the Register.

Here is what Fox News just claimed:

In fact, according to the Federal Register, its mid-range estimate was that by the end of 2014, 76 percent of small group plans would be cancelled, along with 55 percent of large employer plans.

You now can see Fox News lied. Flat out lied.

Stop regurgitating the piss of hack media outlets, or else you deserve to be lied to as much as a reader of the National Enquirer, and are just as gullible.

 

[g5000]

Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted.
"Administration estimated that approximately 78 million Americans with employer sponsored insurance would lose their existing coverage due to the ACA.
Almost 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage canceled, experts predict | Fox News

This will cost the democrat party the house, begin FAST track of Obama's impeachment and disgraced resignation!

You know, every week or so, you explode in an orgasm of outrage over the "46 million uninsured Americans" claim of the loons on the Left. And yet here you are, drinking the piss about an even bigger bogus claim.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Here is the link to the Federal Register: http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/FR-2010-06-17/pdf/2010-14488.pdf

Read it, and see for yourselves.

Under this assumption, the Departments’ mid-range estimate is that
66 percent of small employer plans and 45 percent of large employer plans will
relinquish their grandfather status by the end of 2013. The low-end estimates
are for 49 percent and 34 percent of small and large employer plans,
respectively, to have relinquished grandfather status, and the high-end
estimates are 80 percent and 64 percent, respectively.

The words "cancel" nor "cancelled" appear anywhere in the Register.

Here is what Fox News just claimed:

In fact, according to the Federal Register, its mid-range estimate was that by the end of 2014, 76 percent of small group plans would be cancelled, along with 55 percent of large employer plans.

You now can see Fox News lied. Flat out lied.

Stop regurgitating the piss of hack media outlets, or else you deserve to be lied to as much as a reader of the National Enquirer, and are just as gullible.

Geeze.. calm the **** down dude.. you're sure get upset when anyone criticizes your Messiah Obama.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

The loss of the grandfather status amounts to what? Could it be the cancellation of the current policies? Could it be? No way!

 

[Newby]

According to projections the administration itself issued back in July 2010, it was clear officials knew the impact of ObamaCare three years ago.

In fact, according to the Federal Register, its mid-range estimate was that by the end of 2014, 76 percent of small group plans would be cancelled, along with 55 percent of large employer plans.

This is a flat out lie. This bullshit has been debunked several times on this forum already, but just as I predicted, it will not die since it feeds into what some people desperately want to believe.

The FACTS are that, in 2010, the Obama Administration predicted that 40 to 66 percent of businesses which sponsor health insurance for their employees would lose their grandfather status between 2011 and 2013. Those companies which provided health insurance to their employees before the enactment of the ACA were grandfathered from having to meet the minimum requirements of the ACA. But if they substantially changed their polices after enactment, they lost their grandfather status.


Got that? Would lose their grandfather status, NOT cancel their policies. And the period was from 2011 to the end of 2013. That is what the Obama Adminstration was talking about in the federal register. Go and look for yourselves. They never predictied 80 million people would lose their insurance. Faux News is lying to you. Flat out lying.

But then anyone who listens to Faux News deserves to be lied to.

Well, here we are, the end of 2013. A lot of companies have lost their grandfather status. Have 80 million people been disenrolled from employer sponsored health insurance?

Nope.


Have you bothered to go to your HR department and ask about this?

Probably not. Because you think Faux News is telling you the fair and balanced truth.

Many of you who have employer sponsored insurance may very well be working for a company that has already lost its grandfather status, and yet your company has no intention of cancelling your insurance.

The "experts" who wrote this hack piece of shit don't understand even the simplest workings of this program.

Most companies which sponsor insurance for their employees already provide insurance which EXCEEDS the requirements of the ACA. If they made a change to their policies since the enactment of the ACA, they lost their grandfather status. That DOES NOT automatically imply they will suddenly decide to stop insuring you, and it DOES NOT automatically mean they fall below ACA standards.

Go to your HR department. Don't take the word of Faux News, for chrissakes.

Isn't that only due to the delay of the employer mandate for a year?

 

[Edgetho]

Almost 80 million people with employer health plans could find their coverage canceled because they are not compliant with ObamaCare, several experts predicted.
"Administration estimated that approximately 78 million Americans with employer sponsored insurance would lose their existing coverage due to the ACA.
Almost 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage canceled, experts predict | Fox News

This will cost the democrat party the house, begin FAST track of Obama's impeachment and disgraced resignation!

You know, every week or so, you explode in an orgasm of outrage over the "46 million uninsured Americans" claim of the loons on the Left. And yet here you are, drinking the piss about an even bigger bogus claim.

The regime's own 'experts' said that somewhere around 80 million people will lose their business supplied health care.

Are you getting tired of having facts jammed up your ass on an hourly basis or do you like it?

That's what I thought.....

Almost 80 million with employer health care plans could have coverage canceled, experts predict | Fox News

the administration estimated that approximately 78 million Americans with employer sponsored insurance would lose their existing coverage due to the Affordable Care Act

 

[Indeependent]

"Could" or "Will"?