Polio vaccines VS Covid vaccines

[MaryL]

Polio vaccines actually worked. First time around. No, really. CovidX needs a bunch of boosters, and of course, it couldn't cause a mutant strain...Because the CDC says so.

 

[Oddball]

The FauxiFlu tyrants don't care about comparing apples to atom bombs....You will comply with their dictates, mere peasant.

 

[Augustine_]

Polio vaccines actually worked. First time around. No, really.

Lol you are so ******* wrong you idiot

 

[Crepitus]

Lol you are so ******* wrong you idiot

They really don't know.

 

[Circe]

Lol you are so ******* wrong you idiot

Well ---- there were some speed bumps, this is true.

However, I think MaryL means that once they got it right, it worked for sure: one shot, no polio.

That was the criterion for vaccines for a long time, and then they messed up their credibility by putting out all these flu vaccines that basically don't work. And then lied and lied and lied and lied about you just HAD TO get flu shots to PREVENT FLU, when in fact the shots do nothing of the sort. Nor, as we see to our sorrow, does the Covid vaccine.

I think the real goal was to get everyone owned by doctors, so they can call your home and harass you constantly about getting a bumpteen different expensive diagnostics/procedures/inoculations/prescriptions/exploratory surgeries, etc. And make their $millions to your harm and their profit

 

[progressive hunter]

Polio vaccines actually worked. First time around. No, really. CovidX needs a bunch of boosters, and of course, it couldn't cause a mutant strain...Because the CDC says so.

the covid vaccine isnt a vaccine,,,

 

[Augustine_]

Well ---- there were some speed bumps, this is true.

However, I think MaryL means that once they got it right, it worked for sure: one shot, no polio.

That was the criterion for vaccines for a long time, and then they messed up their credibility by putting out all these flu vaccines that basically don't work. And then lied and lied and lied and lied about you just HAD TO get flu shots to PREVENT FLU, when in fact the shots do nothing of the sort. Nor, as we see to our sorrow, does the Covid vaccine.

I think the real goal was to get everyone owned by doctors, so they can call your home and harass you constantly about getting a bumpteen different expensive diagnostics/procedures/inoculations/prescriptions/exploratory surgeries, etc. And make their $millions to your harm and their profit

Oh my god... kill me now

 

[EvilCat Breath]

The polio vaccine was not a shot. It was a pink drop on a sugar cube.

 

[Quasar44]

MaryL
Covid is an RNA virus and those are very unstable

 

[Circe]

The polio vaccine was not a shot. It was a pink drop on a sugar cube.

Very true! And the whole town lined up, all the children: remember? It was a national celebration.

I don't actually know how they do the polio vaccine now, come to think of it. I think they still do the sugar or syrup method when trying to get people to take it in the few benighted areas, like Pakistan, where it still exists in the wild. It's still in Africa, too, so unlikely we'll be able to eradicate it in the near term.

 

[Circe]

MaryL
Covid is an RNA virus and those are very unstable

I remember early on, the first summer of Covid, reading a complex article about how few genes RNA viruses actually have --- like four or five. And that this makes them highly mutable (I know; I don't get it either). But however well or little I understood it, my first thought was ------ Uh-oh.

And that's what happened: uh-oh. I read a thing yesterday about a wildly mutated version from South Africa or somewhere; I suppose it's just clickbait as usual, but it's all worrying.

At least all this clears up what happened to the 1918 flu. When it first came out in winter 1918 it was relatively mild. Then starting in August, wham --- the killer pandemic fired up and killed a whole lot of people. I suppose that was a mutation, like our Delta.

Then it mysteriously vanished by the following August, 1919 --- no vaccine, no nothing, just --- gone. Never to return, so far. I guess that's what we were all hoping this past July, I know I was. But that's not what happened.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

Very true! And the whole town lined up, all the children: remember? It was a national celebration.

I don't actually know how they do the polio vaccine now, come to think of it. I think they still do the sugar or syrup method when trying to get people to take it in the few benighted areas, like Pakistan, where it still exists in the wild. It's still in Africa, too, so unlikely we'll be able to eradicate it in the near term.

Of course I remember. I stood in line at the school to get my sugar cube.

 

[EvilCat Breath]

I remember early on, the first summer of Covid, reading a complex article about how few genes RNA viruses actually have --- like four or five. And that this makes them highly mutable (I know; I don't get it either). But however well or little I understood it, my first thought was ------ Uh-oh.

And that's what happened: uh-oh. I read a thing yesterday about a wildly mutated version from South Africa or somewhere; I suppose it's just clickbait as usual, but it's all worrying.

At least all this clears up what happened to the 1918 flu. When it first came out in winter 1918 it was relatively mild. Then starting in August, wham --- the killer pandemic fired up and killed a whole lot of people. I suppose that was a mutation, like our Delta.

Then it mysteriously vanished by the following August, 1919 --- no vaccine, no nothing, just --- gone. Never to return, so far. I guess that's what we were all hoping this past July, I know I was. But that's not what happened.

We have no idea what is actually happening because we are being lied to as a baseline. The two shot vaccine can no longer be considered vaccinated at all. You need three to make room for acceptance of a fourth booster. All those people thinking they were vaccinated find out they have to start all over again.

This is what it might be all together.

The Vapor, the Hot Hat, & the Witches’ Potion

Margaret Anna Alice Once upon a time in a prosperous land, a rumor swept across the kingdom that there was an invisible vapor floating through the air. Many vapors had come before, but this one was…

off-guardian.org

 

[badger2]

MaryL
Covid is an RNA virus and those are very unstable

Poliovirus is also an RNA virus.

 

[Quasar44]

badger2
Yes but there are hundreds of subtypes

 

[AzogtheDefiler]

Polio vaccines actually worked. First time around. No, really. CovidX needs a bunch of boosters, and of course, it couldn't cause a mutant strain...Because the CDC says so.

Vaccines are fine. But they only help you survive COVID19 not prevent you from getting it.

 

[badger2]

badger2
Yes but there are hundreds of subtypes

Your problem is more complex than subtypes. Evolution of the coronavirus genome shows irrefutable connections to Picornaviridae, of which poliovirus is a member.

 

[badger2]

Recalling that “Patient Zero” for SARS-Cov-2 was a shrimp seller, we traced Wuhan laboratory “bat lady” Zheng-li Shi’s publications. One from 2006 is about WSS, white spot syndrome in shrimp. Correlating to this is shrimp yellow head virus (THV), and gill-associated virus of shrimp (GAV).

’Subsequent nucleotide sequence analysis confirmed that YHV and GAV are closely related but distinct viruses. Sequence alignments of the region downstream of the helicase indicate that GAV pp1b also possesses 3’-to-5’ exonuclease, uridylate-specific endoribonuclease, and C-terminal ribose-2-O-methyltransferase motifs, which in coronaviruses, have been shown to be essential to RNA synthesis and progeny virus production.’
(Cowley and Walker, Molecular Biology and Pathogenesis of Roniviruses, in Nidoviruses, ASM Press, Ch. 24, 2008)

Poliovirus

Poliovirus - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

’....CRE-dependent uridylylation is needed....’

 

[badger2]

Should read yellow head virus (YHV).

 

[badger2]

SARS-CoV-2 links to poliovirus:

25 Aug 2021 SARS-CoV-2 Fc-gamma Receptor

Illuminating the Fc dependence of SARS-CoV-2 neutralization - PubMed

Monoclonal antibodies show efficacy in treating COVID-19, but the functional requirements for protection are unclear. In this issue of Immunity, Ullah et al. (2021) develop a stable SARS-CoV-2 reporter virus and use bioluminescence imaging to longitudinally monitor infection and assess...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

‘....Antibody-mediated protection depends on the Fc domain and Fc-gamma receptor-expressing immune cells.’

Aug 1999 Tokyo: Poliovirus Fc-gamma / Monoclonal Antibodies

Multiple pathways for establishment of poliovirus infection - PubMed

Poliovirus (PV) infects susceptible cells through poliovirus receptor (PVR), which functions to bind virus and to convert its conformation. To study early infection process of PV, infection systems were employed using in vitro cultured cells and in vivo neural pathway of PVR transgenic (Tg)...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov