Why? We've beaten them twice in world wars, and their military now is a joke. Other than having some good equipment their soldiers suck except for their GSG9.
Poland offers US up to $2B for permanent military base
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Why? We've beaten them twice in world wars, and their military now is a joke. Other than having some good equipment their soldiers suck except for their GSG9.
You think they'll shut down their military? That's just stupid. Are you ever not an idiot?
The two billion if you read the articles is actually roughly the expected cost of building the base. I'm not arguing for the base, just addressing your question
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Britain and France declare war on Germany - Sep 03, 1939 - HISTORY.com
As for Britain’s response, it was initially no more than the dropping of anti-Nazi propaganda leaflets—13 tons of them—over Germany. They would begin bombing German ships on September 4, suffering significant losses. They were also working under orders not to harm German civilians. The German military, of course, had no such restrictions. France would begin an offensive against Germany’s western border two weeks later. Their effort was weakened by a narrow 90-mile window leading to the German front, enclosed by the borders of Luxembourg and Belgium—both neutral countries. The Germans mined the passage, stalling the French offensive.
When The French Army Invaded Germany in 1939 To Support Poland, All Did Not Go As Planned
Germany was not the first country to go on the offensive on the western front of World War Two. That first attack came from France, which launched a brief and ineffective invasion of Germany in September 1939. This
That first attack came from France, which launched a brief and ineffective invasion of Germany in September 1939. This attack, intended to help the far-away Poles, became an embarrassing defeat and a harbinger of what would follow when Germany invaded France.
What followed was Operation Saar, an invasion of the German region of Saarland. Unfortunately for the French, the restrictions that bound them to this plan would also ensure its failure.
The French did not want to violate the neutrality of Belgium by taking armed forces across its territory. As a result, they could only attack Germany along a limited front. This front had been defined 125 years earlier, during the peace process following the Napoleonic wars, when the rest of Europe was concerned with containing French aggression. It gave the Germans the advantage of the defensive high ground.
Still, the French had made a promise to Poland, and they lived up to it. On 7 September they invaded Saarland with a limited force, which was due to be followed by a full-scale invasion a few weeks later. Forty divisions were sent in, with 4,700 artillery and 2,400 tanks.
Facing them were 22 divisions and less than 100 artillery pieces of the German 1st Army.
As for Britain’s response, it was initially no more than the dropping of anti-Nazi propaganda leaflets—13 tons of them—over Germany. They would begin bombing German ships on September 4, suffering significant losses. They were also working under orders not to harm German civilians. The German military, of course, had no such restrictions. France would begin an offensive against Germany’s western border two weeks later. Their effort was weakened by a narrow 90-mile window leading to the German front, enclosed by the borders of Luxembourg and Belgium—both neutral countries. The Germans mined the passage, stalling the French offensive.
When The French Army Invaded Germany in 1939 To Support Poland, All Did Not Go As Planned
Germany was not the first country to go on the offensive on the western front of World War Two. That first attack came from France, which launched a brief and ineffective invasion of Germany in September 1939. This
That first attack came from France, which launched a brief and ineffective invasion of Germany in September 1939. This attack, intended to help the far-away Poles, became an embarrassing defeat and a harbinger of what would follow when Germany invaded France.
What followed was Operation Saar, an invasion of the German region of Saarland. Unfortunately for the French, the restrictions that bound them to this plan would also ensure its failure.
The French did not want to violate the neutrality of Belgium by taking armed forces across its territory. As a result, they could only attack Germany along a limited front. This front had been defined 125 years earlier, during the peace process following the Napoleonic wars, when the rest of Europe was concerned with containing French aggression. It gave the Germans the advantage of the defensive high ground.
Still, the French had made a promise to Poland, and they lived up to it. On 7 September they invaded Saarland with a limited force, which was due to be followed by a full-scale invasion a few weeks later. Forty divisions were sent in, with 4,700 artillery and 2,400 tanks.
Facing them were 22 divisions and less than 100 artillery pieces of the German 1st Army.
That border used to be Poland. Russia took a big chunk of Poland after the second war to end all wars
That's your fantasy, not your embarassment
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The French attacked with 40 divisions on Sept. 7th, 1939.
They declared War on Germany 2 days after the invasion of Poland.
England immobilized and moved to support France within the first week.
The French attacked on a narrow strip of ground and only advanced 5 miles.
Saar Offensive (Sep. 7–16, 1939) Summary & Facts
They declared War on Germany 2 days after the invasion of Poland.
England immobilized and moved to support France within the first week.
The French attacked on a narrow strip of ground and only advanced 5 miles.
Saar Offensive (Sep. 7–16, 1939) Summary & Facts
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Soviet Union invades Poland - Sep 17, 1939 - HISTORY.com
World War II
1939
As Soviet troops broke into Poland, they unexpectedly met up with German troops who had fought their way that far east in a little more than two weeks. The Germans receded when confronted by the Soviets, handing over their Polish prisoners of war. Thousands of Polish troops were taken into captivity; some Poles simply surrendered to the Soviets to avoid being captured by the Germans.
The Soviet Union would wind up with about three-fifths of Poland and 13 million of its people as a result of the invasion.
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I got off topic, but felt a History lesson was in order.
We can second string quarterback all we want, but they did attack......they did declare War......and their military leaders were stupid by not moving into Belgium and leaving their rear wide open to Germany.....................
They went defensive after losing the battle on a 90 mile front because they didn't want to involve Belgium.......A monstrous military mistake.........A mistake Germany had no intention of making.
We can second string quarterback all we want, but they did attack......they did declare War......and their military leaders were stupid by not moving into Belgium and leaving their rear wide open to Germany.....................
They went defensive after losing the battle on a 90 mile front because they didn't want to involve Belgium.......A monstrous military mistake.........A mistake Germany had no intention of making.
Jarlaxle
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No, meddling got us in two world wars. We had no business shoving our noses into WW1.
tinydancer
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Oh I would live there in a hearbeat. Hungary too.
Rosy
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You mean how about let the Soviet Union return and take over the World.
Great idea, we will let you know when it is your turn to pee
Jarlaxle
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The Poles were totally outmatched. They were outnumbered by Germany 2:1 in troop strength, 2:1 in artillery, 4:1 in armor-though most Polish armor were tankettes-counting only actual TANKS, it was 12:1-and 6:1 in aircraft, most of which were totally obsolete. German BOMBERS were faster than Poland's PZL-11 fighters.
And, of course, 2 weeks after the Germans attacked, the Soviets invaded from the east.
Jarlaxle
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Are you intoxicated?
Admiral Rockwell Tory
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Rosy
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Do you really think that the USA should leave South Korea tonight?
Please detail why?
Then resume your heroin injections
Jarlaxle
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Yes. Because we have no business being there and it costs a damn fortune.
You are snorting, what...idiot powder?
Rosy
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So you want North Korea to take over the entire peninsula...………..Why
You may resume your heroin injections
Jarlaxle
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Rosy
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Peace is not a problem, it is the goal of all decent people.
You will never be able to comprehend.
Yawning
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