What is there to have a "serious discussion" about? You have your views on gun ownership and they won't change and I have mine and Brian has his.
But hurt over this perceived lack of respect? I guess it comes from engaging the likes of 2amendment, goforit, skookerisabill and a few other gun nutters who could care less about the deaths of anyone else for any reason. People who celebrate the killing of thief's. Gun nutters who are so callous to those that lost kids to accidental shootings, loved ones to gun suicides and other loved ones to domestic violence with a gun. And you say nothing to these people. Don't they offend you? If you have a kid and the kid goes over to a friends house and the friend shows your kid his Dad's loaded gun and your kid gets shot, how you gonna act then?
On that topic. Why you keep saying someone convicted of domestic violence can't buy a gun. Did you ever stop and think that they wouldn't have been convicted of domestic violence until they killed or wounded their spouse. Talk about avoiding the subject by deflection.
Buddy of mine not to long ago killed himself. He had a domestic violence problem and couldn't buy a gun in a gun store. He had no problem finding a private seller to purchase the .45 he shot himself with.
Responsible gun owners such as yourself should be interested in stopping this kind of violence and promote rules and regs to help stop it.
Instead you fight tooth and nail to keep ANY kind of reasonable restrictions from being enacted. Why?
People have been convicted of domestic violence for simple physical fights. They have not seriously injured or killed anyone, and yet they are not allowed to buy guns. I agree with that. If you cannot control yourself enough not to hit your partner, you lack the self-control necessary to be a gun owner.
As for the backgrond checks for private sales, all I have said is to ask how we accomplish it without making everyone able to dial a phone capable of gaining personal information. Most background checks include your social security number. I am willing to give that to a licensed dealer, but not to some jackleg selling a single shot hunting rifle.
As for my kid being shot with his friend's father's gun, I have said (several times) that I am in favor of safe storage laws. And yet you continue to throw up my supposed opposition to it. When will it register that I agree with you on this?
And if you want to know why I am opposed to legislation that I believe will not make a difference, you have only to look at the most restrictive gun laws and the places that have them. Chicago, NY and DC did not start out with ridiculously restrictive gun laws. It is incremental. Until it gets to the point that private gun ownership is virtually impossible. A perfect example is NY's new gun laws. They have made any gun capable of holding more than 7 rounds illegal. That means that my M1911-A1, with an 8 round magazine is completely illegal. The gun was designed over 100 years ago. And yet it is lumped in with machineguns as far as private ownership. And the cities with the most restrictive gun laws also have some of the worst gun violence. Those laws do not work, so the politicians pander to the uninformed and press for more and greater restrictions. It is about taking away control, not promoting safety.
While removing high capacity magazines
might make a small difference in the rare occasions, the fact that it won't make a huge change will prompt some to push for more. As NY did.
And then you have those, like KingNosmo, who insist that all semi-auto weapons should be banned and destroyed. There is no rational basis for this. His views on firearms is obviously uninformed. And yet, when the restriction for less than 10 rounds per mag passes and does not change anything,his view will seem rational to other uninformed people.
As for your buddy, I am sorry for your loss. But if he used a gun to commit suicide then he was serious about wanting to die. If he had been unable to obtain a gun, I see no reason to believe he would not have managed his suicide via another method.
I guess my biggest complaint is that we have these discussions, and yet you totally ignore the things I have said in agreement with you. I have pushed for safe storage rules, legislation and laws. And yet, you continue to berate me for not wanting to do so.
Which makes me wonder why I bother to join these discussions, since you are obviously not paying any attention to what I say.
