Planned Parenthood: False Allegations and the Clown Car

[DrDoomNGloom]

This whole deal by the right and all the misinformation thing with the edited tapes reminds me of something else. It's a different subject but the same methodology is used.
It seems like every time there's a mass shooting, the NRA comes out screaming that the government is going to take everybody's guns. In the end, people rush out a buy a record amount of guns the government doesn't go after all the guns and the NRA's biggest sponsor (the gun industry) makes a record amount of money!
This approach works every time, scare the living crap of the the most gullible people in existence and get them to do exactly what their gods want them to do!

So you are implying that that planned parenthood is pushing pregnant women to have abortions so that the baby parts installers will be richer??

Amazing logic you have there sport ..................

 

[BlueGin]

First of all, I'm not really a liberal. I do lean a bit left of center, but being a former Republican, I'm hardly hard left. Of course, those like you believe anyone who is not far right is just an extreme liberal. As for Medicare and Medicaid, they accept anyone who is eligible. That does not mean all healthcare providers accept Medicaid. You really ought to know this stuff if you are going to discuss it.

Thank you, a spot on post.

So if patients can't use Medicaid and Medicare. Why were they forced on it by the ACA and the SCOTUS to the glee of the left wing loons??

Huh?

Guess you loons should have made sure the "poor" could use Medicaid before you forced them on it huh?

Do you work at being a jerk, or does it come easy to you? I haven't forcedd Medicaid on anyone, if I had that power I force you to get therapy.

Did you advocate for them not to be penalized for not signing up on the exchange?

 

[Wry Catcher]

Not at all.

then how do you support your claim that PP prevents more abortions than it performs?

Fallacy of the Loaded Question ^^^

You don't even know what that is, Wry. Stop trying to sound smart. You aren't. Answer the question.

Probably the better fallacy is this:

Appeal to a Lack of Evidence(Argumentum Ad Ignorantium, literally "Argument from Ignorance"): Appealing to a lack of information to prove a point, or arguing that, since the opposition cannot disprove a claim, the opposite stance must be true. An example of such an argument is the assertion that ghosts must exist because no one has been able to prove that they do not exist. Logicians know this is a logical fallacy because no competing argument has yet revealed itself.

Complex Question (Also called the "Loaded Question"): Phrasing a question or statement in such as way as to imply another unproven statement is true without evidence or discussion.

Mea culpa, I took logic my sophomore year at CAL, 1966. In the future I will check my statements for accuracy.

Citing logical fallacies in lieu of an actual position is simple deflection. You are appealing to lack of evidence by having NO evidence.

It's not my job to prove the statement of others. I've made my positions very clear.

1. Libertarians are ideologues and stuck in a box of ideas, with no concept of how they might work in a nation the size of the US. Their platform completely rejects pragmatic solutions which conflict with their dogma.

2. Republicans have made avarice into a virtue, when once it was a deadly sin. They have rejected the principle of a social contract and cherry pick ideas from the Enlightenment to suit their personal needs.

3. CU has put the last nail into the coffin of our once democratic republic, we have made the transition to an Oligrachy of the Rich and Powerful an appears to me to be a 21st Century version of fascism.

4. The Great Threat to Capitalism isn't Communism or Socialism - it is the greed of the capitalists and the power elite. They should have learned from OWS.

5. Education is the cure for a nation's malaise, and can mitigate most of its ills.

6. Government creates jobs, as does the private sector.

7. Jobs will cure many of the nation's ills.

8. Wedge issues and "ain't it awful" dominate the right wing rhetoric

9. The War on Drugs is a failure

Want more, read my posts, they have been consistent since I joined this message board.

 

[Uncensored2008]

Want more, read my posts, they have been consistent since I joined this message board.

Or log on to ThinkProgress, and get your thoughts straight from the source.

 

[TemplarKormac]

then how do you support your claim that PP prevents more abortions than it performs?

Fallacy of the Loaded Question ^^^

You don't even know what that is, Wry. Stop trying to sound smart. You aren't. Answer the question.

Probably the better fallacy is this:

Appeal to a Lack of Evidence(Argumentum Ad Ignorantium, literally "Argument from Ignorance"): Appealing to a lack of information to prove a point, or arguing that, since the opposition cannot disprove a claim, the opposite stance must be true. An example of such an argument is the assertion that ghosts must exist because no one has been able to prove that they do not exist. Logicians know this is a logical fallacy because no competing argument has yet revealed itself.

Complex Question (Also called the "Loaded Question"): Phrasing a question or statement in such as way as to imply another unproven statement is true without evidence or discussion.

Mea culpa, I took logic my sophomore year at CAL, 1966. In the future I will check my statements for accuracy.

Citing logical fallacies in lieu of an actual position is simple deflection. You are appealing to lack of evidence by having NO evidence.

It's not my job to prove the statement of others. I've made my positions very clear.

1. Libertarians are ideologues and stuck in a box of ideas, with no concept of how they might work in a nation the size of the US. Their platform completely rejects pragmatic solutions which conflict with their dogma.

2. Republicans have made avarice into a virtue, when once it was a deadly sin. They have rejected the principle of a social contract and cherry pick ideas from the Enlightenment to suit their personal needs.

3. CU has put the last nail into the coffin of our once democratic republic, we have made the transition to an Oligrachy of the Rich and Powerful an appears to me to be a 21st Century version of fascism.

4. The Great Threat to Capitalism isn't Communism or Socialism - it is the greed of the capitalists and the power elite. They should have learned from OWS.

5. Education is the cure for a nation's malaise, and can mitigate most of its ills.

6. Government creates jobs, as does the private sector.

7. Jobs will cure many of the nation's ills.

8. Wedge issues and "ain't it awful" dominate the right wing rhetoric

9. The War on Drugs is a failure

Want more, read my posts, they have been consistent since I joined this message board.

You aren't even addressing the topic of the thread anymore, you're just rambling on, just to read your own words and sound like the Einstein you're not. And you are about as consistent as Scott Norwood was at kicking field goals in the Super Bowl.

And if you want, create another thread, let us critique your views. But not here.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

This whole deal by the right and all the misinformation thing with the edited tapes reminds me of something else. It's a different subject but the same methodology is used.
It seems like every time there's a mass shooting, the NRA comes out screaming that the government is going to take everybody's guns. In the end, people rush out a buy a record amount of guns the government doesn't go after all the guns and the NRA's biggest sponsor (the gun industry) makes a record amount of money!
This approach works every time, scare the living crap of the the most gullible people in existence and get them to do exactly what their gods want them to do!

So you are implying that that planned parenthood is pushing pregnant women to have abortions so that the baby parts installers will be richer??

Amazing logic you have there sport ..................

By the way, just for dumb folks like you, it was your HNIC that really pushed the firearms trade.

Every time he came out and flapped his dick suckers about taking of gun rights.

The gun dealers doubled down on orders in the early stages of his lunacy.

Massive orders went unfilled and the gun makers had to go into overtime.

But alas, orders started to ship as demand stayed constant and increased.

The dealers were so flush with cash they reordered and doubled down causing another shortage.

The manufactures once again went into overdrive and delivered massive back orders of assault / sporting rifles.

Now with large supplies, prices have fallen.

Our local gun show had piles, I mean massive piles of my favorite .223 Bushmaster for $400.

Got to love those unintended consequences, just not quite as smart as you folks would like to think or lead us to believe.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Thank you, a spot on post.

So if patients can't use Medicaid and Medicare. Why were they forced on it by the ACA and the SCOTUS to the glee of the left wing loons??

Huh?

Guess you loons should have made sure the "poor" could use Medicaid before you forced them on it huh?

Do you work at being a jerk, or does it come easy to you? I haven't forcedd Medicaid on anyone, if I had that power I force you to get therapy.

Did you advocate for them not to be penalized for not signing up on the exchange?

Of course not. Not buying auto insurance or health insurance impacts all of us. Scofflaws ought to pay a penalty.

 

[Wry Catcher]

Fallacy of the Loaded Question ^^^

You don't even know what that is, Wry. Stop trying to sound smart. You aren't. Answer the question.

Probably the better fallacy is this:

Appeal to a Lack of Evidence(Argumentum Ad Ignorantium, literally "Argument from Ignorance"): Appealing to a lack of information to prove a point, or arguing that, since the opposition cannot disprove a claim, the opposite stance must be true. An example of such an argument is the assertion that ghosts must exist because no one has been able to prove that they do not exist. Logicians know this is a logical fallacy because no competing argument has yet revealed itself.

Complex Question (Also called the "Loaded Question"): Phrasing a question or statement in such as way as to imply another unproven statement is true without evidence or discussion.

Mea culpa, I took logic my sophomore year at CAL, 1966. In the future I will check my statements for accuracy.

Citing logical fallacies in lieu of an actual position is simple deflection. You are appealing to lack of evidence by having NO evidence.

It's not my job to prove the statement of others. I've made my positions very clear.

1. Libertarians are ideologues and stuck in a box of ideas, with no concept of how they might work in a nation the size of the US. Their platform completely rejects pragmatic solutions which conflict with their dogma.

2. Republicans have made avarice into a virtue, when once it was a deadly sin. They have rejected the principle of a social contract and cherry pick ideas from the Enlightenment to suit their personal needs.

3. CU has put the last nail into the coffin of our once democratic republic, we have made the transition to an Oligrachy of the Rich and Powerful an appears to me to be a 21st Century version of fascism.

4. The Great Threat to Capitalism isn't Communism or Socialism - it is the greed of the capitalists and the power elite. They should have learned from OWS.

5. Education is the cure for a nation's malaise, and can mitigate most of its ills.

6. Government creates jobs, as does the private sector.

7. Jobs will cure many of the nation's ills.

8. Wedge issues and "ain't it awful" dominate the right wing rhetoric

9. The War on Drugs is a failure

Want more, read my posts, they have been consistent since I joined this message board.

You aren't even addressing the topic of the thread anymore, you're just rambling on, just to read your own words and sound like the Einstein you're not. And you are about as consistent as Scott Norwood was at kicking field goals in the Super Bowl.

And if you want, create another thread, let us critique your views. But not here.

You too are a jerk. Posting a personal attack is what, being substantive. And yeah, I did by calling you a jerk, a spot on truth based on your flawed character.

This thread is about a lie, one more Great BIG LIE that is the Bread and Butter of the right wing.

 

[DrDoomNGloom]

.....
This thread is about a lie, one more Great BIG LIE that is the Bread and Butter of the right wing.

What was that lie, "Planned parenthood is selling fetal tissue"??

What is the right lying about in this thread??

 

[BlueGin]

So if patients can't use Medicaid and Medicare. Why were they forced on it by the ACA and the SCOTUS to the glee of the left wing loons??

Huh?

Guess you loons should have made sure the "poor" could use Medicaid before you forced them on it huh?

Do you work at being a jerk, or does it come easy to you? I haven't forcedd Medicaid on anyone, if I had that power I force you to get therapy.

Did you advocate for them not to be penalized for not signing up on the exchange?

Of course not. Not buying auto insurance or health insurance impacts all of us. Scofflaws ought to pay a penalty.

Then why are you claiming they weren't forced onto Medicaid?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Motion to defund Planned Parenthood FAILED - 53 - 46
Kirk voted with Dems. (His challenger is Tammy Duckworth in 2016).
Manchin & Donnelly voted with Reps.
McConnell voted no also, but only so he can bring it back for another vote.

Senate blocks Planned Parenthood defunding measure

 

[BlueGin]

Motion to defund Planned Parenthood FAILED - 53 - 46
Kirk voted with Dems. (His challenger is Tammy Duckworth in 2016).
Manchin & Donnelly voted with Reps.
McConnell voted no also, but only so he can bring it back for another vote.

Senate blocks Planned Parenthood defunding measure

Good news is Bobby Jindal terminating their contract with Medicaid. Progress. Plus two democrats crossing the isle.

It will come up again in about 30 days.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Want more, read my posts, they have been consistent since I joined this message board.

Or log on to ThinkProgress, and get your thoughts straight from the source.

You are the voice of Fox..............

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Motion to defund Planned Parenthood FAILED - 53 - 46
Kirk voted with Dems. (His challenger is Tammy Duckworth in 2016).
Manchin & Donnelly voted with Reps.
McConnell voted no also, but only so he can bring it back for another vote.

Senate blocks Planned Parenthood defunding measure

Good news is Bobby Jindal terminating their contract with Medicaid. Progress. Plus two democrats crossing the isle.

It will come up again in about 30 days.

If the video scam does not work today why will the scam work in 30 days..in thirty days we will know a lot more about the delinquents behind the videos ....

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Pandering Piyush ...............

 

[BlueGin]

Motion to defund Planned Parenthood FAILED - 53 - 46
Kirk voted with Dems. (His challenger is Tammy Duckworth in 2016).
Manchin & Donnelly voted with Reps.
McConnell voted no also, but only so he can bring it back for another vote.

Senate blocks Planned Parenthood defunding measure

Good news is Bobby Jindal terminating their contract with Medicaid. Progress. Plus two democrats crossing the isle.

It will come up again in about 30 days.

If the video scam does not work today why will the scam work in 30 days..in thirty days we will know a lot more about the delinquents behind the videos ....

Hopefully more states will end their Medicaid contracts with PP as well.

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Motion to defund Planned Parenthood FAILED - 53 - 46
Kirk voted with Dems. (His challenger is Tammy Duckworth in 2016).
Manchin & Donnelly voted with Reps.
McConnell voted no also, but only so he can bring it back for another vote.

Senate blocks Planned Parenthood defunding measure

Good news is Bobby Jindal terminating their contract with Medicaid. Progress. Plus two democrats crossing the isle.

It will come up again in about 30 days.

If the video scam does not work today why will the scam work in 30 days..in thirty days we will know a lot more about the delinquents behind the videos ....

Hopefully more states will end their Medicaid contracts with PP as well.

Piyush is just "showing out for the rubes"............

 

[BlueGin]

Motion to defund Planned Parenthood FAILED - 53 - 46
Kirk voted with Dems. (His challenger is Tammy Duckworth in 2016).
Manchin & Donnelly voted with Reps.
McConnell voted no also, but only so he can bring it back for another vote.

Senate blocks Planned Parenthood defunding measure

Good news is Bobby Jindal terminating their contract with Medicaid. Progress. Plus two democrats crossing the isle.

It will come up again in about 30 days.

If the video scam does not work today why will the scam work in 30 days..in thirty days we will know a lot more about the delinquents behind the videos ....

Hopefully more states will end their Medicaid contracts with PP as well.

Piyush is just "showing out for the rubes"............

Libs are terrified of losing their cash cow and control of women.

It's to be expected from the deceitful.

 

[kaz]

Anti-Abortion Extremist Will Stand Trial for Threatening a Provider Feminist Majority Foundation Blog

In a powerful decision for abortion providers being threatened by extremists, the 10th US Circuit Court of Appeals found in a 2-1 ruling that a jury – not a judge – should determine whether or not a 2011 letter Angel Dillard sent to Dr. Mila Means constitutes a true threat actionable under the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act. The ruling overturns a lower court’s summary decision that Dillard’s letter was constitutionally protected free speech.

What about extremists who threaten bankers and business people like Occupy Wall Street, should they get the same treatment?

 

[TyroneSlothrop]

Anti-Abortion Extremist Will Stand Trial for Threatening a Provider Feminist Majority Foundation Blog

In a powerful decision for abortion providers being threatened by extremists, the 10th US Circuit Court of Appeals found in a 2-1 ruling that a jury – not a judge – should determine whether or not a 2011 letter Angel Dillard sent to Dr. Mila Means constitutes a true threat actionable under the Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances (FACE) Act. The ruling overturns a lower court’s summary decision that Dillard’s letter was constitutionally protected free speech.

What about extremists who threaten bankers and business people like Occupy Wall Street, should they get the same treatment?

You are a nut bag ...extremist who threaten bankers ...what a dummy...
Like Piyush