Zone1 Physical Proof of the Book of Mormon?

[Cougarbear]

MORMON’S “REFORMED EGYPTIAN” FOUND IN PERU?

The Nazca Lines in southern Peru were made between about 500 BC and 500 AD by scraping away the dark stones on the desert surface to expose lighter soil underneath. Some are long, straight lines running for miles. Others are animals and plants drawn on a massive scale. Scholars divide them into two main periods: the earlier Paracas phase, roughly 400–200 BC; and the later Nazca phase, roughly 200 BC–500 AD. New figures continue to be identified with drone surveys.

One of the more recent discoveries, announced in October 2020, was a large cat figure on a hillside overlooking the desert. It dates to around 200–100 BC and measures about 37 meters from head to tail.

When I looked at that cat, in particular the markings along its tail, something immediately stood out. The stripes are usually described as naturalistic feline markings. But they are not soft or flowing. They are sharp. They are linear, segmented, and angular. They look deliberate. They look like characters.

The lines resemble the characters published in 1828 as samples of what Joseph Smith called “Reformed Egyptian” on the Book of Mormon plates. The Book of Mormon claims to cover the period from about 600 BC to 400 AD, which overlaps the era these geoglyphs were made.

I have not seen anyone else make this discovery. Compare the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet and decide for yourself.

JOHN HAJICEK

 

[MarathonMike]

Could you provide a picture of the Book of Mormon Plates so we can decide if the images are similar or not? Thanks

 

[Cougarbear]

Could you provide a picture of the Book of Mormon Plates so we can decide if the images are similar or not? Thanks

Those were notes that were taken to Professor Anton, the Egyptian scholar back in 1828. Even if they didn't come from the plates, how would Joseph know those symbols and the one on the cat in 1828? So, keep denying your eyes.

 

[ding]

Those were notes that were taken to Professor Anton, the Egyptian scholar back in 1828. Even if they didn't come from the plates, how would Joseph know those symbols and the one on the cat in 1828? So, keep denying your eyes.

Yes, he was saying the lines resembled characters that were published in 1828 as a sample of what Joseph Smith called “Reformed Egyptian”, right?

The lines resemble the characters published in 1828 as samples of what Joseph Smith called “Reformed Egyptian” on the Book of Mormon plates.

Then Professor Anton said, "compare the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet and decide for yourself."
Right?

Have you done that yet? Have you compared the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet? Can you show us the 1828 character sheet so we can see for ourselves like Professor Anton suggested?

 

[luiza]

Institutions are overflowing with people like our OP who have produced absurd speculations that only they fully understand or can justify to themselves .
Here is a lovely example of madness which the author has become wedded and welded to .

Pointless arguing . Just smile sweetly and move on .

 

[ding]

Wouldn't physical proof of the Book of Mormon be more like biblical manuscripts?

There are no known, extant ancient (pre-19th century) manuscripts for the Book of Mormon. The earliest manuscripts are 19th-century handwritten copies, with about 28% of the original manuscript (dictated by Joseph Smith in 1829) surviving today. Most surviving fragments are housed in the Church History Library.
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Key details regarding Book of Mormon manuscripts:

• Original Manuscript: Written in 1829 by Oliver Cowdery and others as Joseph Smith translated, this document was placed in the Nauvoo House cornerstone in 1841. Water damage destroyed much of it; roughly 232 pages of the original 500+ pages survive.
• Printer’s Manuscript: A complete copy of the original was made to take to the printer for the first edition. This manuscript is largely intact and is owned by the Community of Christ.
• Preservation: The original, faded manuscript was analyzed using multispectral imaging and published by The Joseph Smith Papers project in 2022.
• Ancient Record Claims: According to Latter-day Saint theology, the book was translated from ancient metal plates, which were returned to an angel, making them unavailable for public, scientific analysis.

 

[Cougarbear]

Yes, he was saying the lines resembled characters that were published in 1828 as a sample of what Joseph Smith called “Reformed Egyptian”, right?


Then Professor Anton said, "compare the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet and decide for yourself."
Right?

Have you done that yet? Have you compared the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet? Can you show us the 1828 character sheet so we can see for ourselves like Professor Anton suggested?

Do you know who Professor Anton was? You are lost. The markings in Peru were unknown in 1828. That's the whole point. Good grief. You want physical evidence and there it is.

 

[ding]

Do you know who Professor Anton was? You are lost. The markings in Peru were unknown in 1828. That's the whole point. Good grief. You want physical evidence and there it is.

So you are saying that today, YOU can't compare the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet?

 

[The Duke]

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MORMON’S “REFORMED EGYPTIAN” FOUND IN PERU?

The Nazca Lines in southern Peru were made between about 500 BC and 500 AD by scraping away the dark stones on the desert surface to expose lighter soil underneath. Some are long, straight lines running for miles. Others are animals and plants drawn on a massive scale. Scholars divide them into two main periods: the earlier Paracas phase, roughly 400–200 BC; and the later Nazca phase, roughly 200 BC–500 AD. New figures continue to be identified with drone surveys.

One of the more recent discoveries, announced in October 2020, was a large cat figure on a hillside overlooking the desert. It dates to around 200–100 BC and measures about 37 meters from head to tail.

When I looked at that cat, in particular the markings along its tail, something immediately stood out. The stripes are usually described as naturalistic feline markings. But they are not soft or flowing. They are sharp. They are linear, segmented, and angular. They look deliberate. They look like characters.

The lines resemble the characters published in 1828 as samples of what Joseph Smith called “Reformed Egyptian” on the Book of Mormon plates. The Book of Mormon claims to cover the period from about 600 BC to 400 AD, which overlaps the era these geoglyphs were made.

I have not seen anyone else make this discovery. Compare the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet and decide for yourself.

JOHN HAJICEK

It's looks exactly the same, but inverted, and Idk what that means.

 

[ding]

It's looks exactly the same, but inverted, and Idk what that means.

Do you see it here? Because I don't. Seems to me this is a bit like looking at clouds and seeing shapes of objects in the clouds.

 

[The Duke]

Do you see it here? Because I don't. Seems to me this is a bit like looking at clouds and seeing shapes of objects in the clouds.

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So, coincidence? I mean, it's inverted in the 2nd thing anyway.
Okay, IMO, this is trying to draw a correlation between things that are in no way related.
The lines are different. Now the 2 things etched into the earth are the same.
No idea what that means.

 

[Cougarbear]

So you are saying that today, YOU can't compare the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet?

Are you this blinded by the craftiness of men? The torn paper with reformed Egyptian has been laughed at by anti-Mormons since 1828 as fake made up etchings. The cat in the mountain was found much later with the same marking in it that is on the paper. That’s proof the writing on the paper isn’t fake. Lehi wrote in reformed Egyptian and the writings on the plates were also in reformed Egyptian. There’s your physical proof. More to come as new ancient ruins are unearthed from LiDar images.

 

[ding]

Are you this blinded by the craftiness of men? The torn paper with reformed Egyptian has been laughed at by anti-Mormons since 1828 as fake made up etchings. The cat in the mountain was found much later with the same marking in it that is on the paper. That’s proof the writing on the paper isn’t fake. Lehi wrote in reformed Egyptian and the writings on the plates were also in reformed Egyptian. There’s your physical proof. More to come as new ancient ruins are unearthed from LiDar images.

Have you made the comparison yourself?

 

[Cougarbear]

It's looks exactly the same, but inverted, and Idk what that means.

Joseph was dyslexic. The truth is, anti-Mormons have been saying that none of the excavations of ancient cities so far show no reformed Egyptian writings. Now we have one. There are a million square miles of LiDar ruins not unearthed yet. More to come.

 

[The Duke]

Are you this blinded by the craftiness of men? The torn paper with reformed Egyptian has been laughed at by anti-Mormons since 1828 as fake made up etchings. The cat in the mountain was found much later with the same marking in it that is on the paper. That’s proof the writing on the paper isn’t fake. Lehi wrote in reformed Egyptian and the writings on the plates were also in reformed Egyptian. There’s your physical proof. More to come as new ancient ruins are unearthed from LiDar images.

4 lines is not 9 lines.

 

[DennisPTate]

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MORMON’S “REFORMED EGYPTIAN” FOUND IN PERU?

The Nazca Lines in southern Peru were made between about 500 BC and 500 AD by scraping away the dark stones on the desert surface to expose lighter soil underneath. Some are long, straight lines running for miles. Others are animals and plants drawn on a massive scale. Scholars divide them into two main periods: the earlier Paracas phase, roughly 400–200 BC; and the later Nazca phase, roughly 200 BC–500 AD. New figures continue to be identified with drone surveys.

One of the more recent discoveries, announced in October 2020, was a large cat figure on a hillside overlooking the desert. It dates to around 200–100 BC and measures about 37 meters from head to tail.

When I looked at that cat, in particular the markings along its tail, something immediately stood out. The stripes are usually described as naturalistic feline markings. But they are not soft or flowing. They are sharp. They are linear, segmented, and angular. They look deliberate. They look like characters.

The lines resemble the characters published in 1828 as samples of what Joseph Smith called “Reformed Egyptian” on the Book of Mormon plates. The Book of Mormon claims to cover the period from about 600 BC to 400 AD, which overlaps the era these geoglyphs were made.

I have not seen anyone else make this discovery. Compare the cat’s tail markings with the 1828 character sheet and decide for yourself.

JOHN HAJICEK

I cannot deny the fact that ancient Jewish history does have some fascinating correlation's with the writings of Prophet Joseph Smith.

Mystery of the Ten Lost Tribes Ecuador

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Intensified attention to the subject took place in the 17th century in England. It was all due to the writings of Manasseh Ben Israel, an Amsterdam Rabbi, who convinced Oliver Cromwell to allow the Jews to Return to England after their banishment from that country four centuries previously.

Manasseh was fully convinced of the authenticity of the Sambatyon legend. He wrote in his book that all think that the Ten Tribes dwelled beyond this Sabbatical river. He cites many authorities in support of his belief including the statement of Josephus that Titus himself had seen the river. Later on, after his meetings with a remarkable missionary, the Marrano Jew (Jew who was forced to convert to Christianity in Spain and Portugal), Antonio de Montezinus, he became fully convinced that the American Indians constituted some of the Ten Lost Tribes of Israel.

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Manasseh heard a very remarkable thing from Montezinus that in 1642 when Montezinus was deep into the mountainous wilderness of Ecuador, he met with four Indians who greeted him with "Shema Israel" which is the traditional creed of Israelites beginning with "Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one!" (Deuteronomy 6:4). He claimed that he spoke with them in Hebrew and claimed they were from the Lost Tribe of Reuben and Levi.

Through the conversation with Montezinus, Rabbi Manase Ben Israel was convinced that the American Indians were from several tribes of the Lost Tribes of Israel. He wrote on Dec. 23, 1649, in a letter to John Drury, the Puritan divine, "I think the Ten Tribes lived not only there in America, but also in other lands scattered everywhere, these never did come back to the second temple, and they keep to this day still the Jewish religion seeing that all the prophecies which speak of the bringing back into their native soil must be fulfilled."

Menorah Was Found in South America

Ecuador: Mystery of the Ten Lost Tribes (Moshiach.com)

An Interactive Multimedia Tour of the Holy Temple - Beit Hamikdash.

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[Cougarbear]

4 lines is not 9 lines.

Who cares. Your reason for attacking the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith is over. The symbol is the evidence. What do the number of lines have to do with any of this?

 

[Cougarbear]

I cannot deny the fact that ancient Jewish history does have some fascinating correlation's with the writings of Prophet Joseph Smith.

This is more important. This is factual evidence that Joseph Smith had the ancient plates of reformed Egyptian. Exactly why anti-Mormons attacked the Church. Time for you to get properly baptized.

 

[DennisPTate]

This is more important. This is factual evidence that Joseph Smith had the ancient plates of reformed Egyptian. Exactly why anti-Mormons attacked the Church. Time for you to get properly baptized.

I do admire your zeal Cougarbear.....
but if I were to be baptized as a Latter day Saint then I would not be able to convince hundreds... thousands..... even tens of thousands of ex-Mormons to begin to attend the local LDS Ward again.........
and be relative quiet and non-divisive.

I may well be attending a branch from the former WWCG soon......
I do try my best to apply my own advice.

Worldwide Church of God = WWCG.

 

[ding]

Who cares. Your reason for attacking the Book of Mormon and Joseph Smith is over. The symbol is the evidence. What do the number of lines have to do with any of this?

Actually it isn't evidence at all.