Peyton Manning announces retirement

[fbj]

The patriots cheated their way to the Super Bowl's

you sound mad and gay

 

[Rustic]

The patriots cheated their way to the Super Bowl's

you sound mad and gay

The patriots know what they did, no big deal.

 

[Papageorgio]

Manning and Magic were on Jimmy Fallon and Magic made mention of Manning should come out of retirement to play for the Rams. So this was planned long ago and it was a formality.

 

[rightwinger]

Best QB of all time...

How he is better than Joe Montana you retarded mutherfucker?

Brady is better than Montana
Peyton just didn't have the playoff record....too many one and dones

Brady is not better than Montana because Montana never lost a SB

Joe Montana lost 12 Super Bowls. If you can't even get your team to the Super Bowl, you have lost that season

Brady has gotten his team to the Super Bowl six times and won four. The two he lost against the Giants, he had his team in the lead with two minutes left. Patriot defense lost both times

Brady never had HOF receivers Rice and Taylor to throw to.

4-0 is better than 4-2

No it's not

A team not making the Super Bowl is not better than a team who does

 

[Anathema]

Brady is better than Montana......

In the era Montana played in, Brady would not have had anywhere near the success he has in today's watered-down, parity-driven league.

 

[fbj]

How he is better than Joe Montana you retarded mutherfucker?

Brady is better than Montana
Peyton just didn't have the playoff record....too many one and dones

Brady is not better than Montana because Montana never lost a SB

Joe Montana lost 12 Super Bowls. If you can't even get your team to the Super Bowl, you have lost that season

Brady has gotten his team to the Super Bowl six times and won four. The two he lost against the Giants, he had his team in the lead with two minutes left. Patriot defense lost both times

Brady never had HOF receivers Rice and Taylor to throw to.

4-0 is better than 4-2

No it's not

A team not making the Super Bowl is not better than a team who does

He is undefeated in the SB. Debate over

 

[rightwinger]

Brady is better than Montana
Peyton just didn't have the playoff record....too many one and dones

Brady is not better than Montana because Montana never lost a SB

Joe Montana lost 12 Super Bowls. If you can't even get your team to the Super Bowl, you have lost that season

Brady has gotten his team to the Super Bowl six times and won four. The two he lost against the Giants, he had his team in the lead with two minutes left. Patriot defense lost both times

Brady never had HOF receivers Rice and Taylor to throw to.

4-0 is better than 4-2

No it's not

A team not making the Super Bowl is not better than a team who does

He is undefeated in the SB. Debate over

How does not making a Super Bowl exceed getting there and losing?

 

[fbj]

Brady is not better than Montana because Montana never lost a SB

Joe Montana lost 12 Super Bowls. If you can't even get your team to the Super Bowl, you have lost that season

Brady has gotten his team to the Super Bowl six times and won four. The two he lost against the Giants, he had his team in the lead with two minutes left. Patriot defense lost both times

Brady never had HOF receivers Rice and Taylor to throw to.

4-0 is better than 4-2

No it's not

A team not making the Super Bowl is not better than a team who does

He is undefeated in the SB. Debate over

How does not making a Super Bowl exceed getting there and losing?

You didn't see Joe play obviously

 

[rightwinger]

Joe Montana lost 12 Super Bowls. If you can't even get your team to the Super Bowl, you have lost that season

Brady has gotten his team to the Super Bowl six times and won four. The two he lost against the Giants, he had his team in the lead with two minutes left. Patriot defense lost both times

Brady never had HOF receivers Rice and Taylor to throw to.

4-0 is better than 4-2

No it's not

A team not making the Super Bowl is not better than a team who does

He is undefeated in the SB. Debate over

How does not making a Super Bowl exceed getting there and losing?

You didn't see Joe play obviously

I saw Joe play at Notre Dame. Check out his Cotton Bowl
Great QB. I always thought Montana was the best I ever saw

Brady is better

 

[WheelieAddict]

Dan Marino never won a superbowl and is easily one of the top five quarterbacks to ever play the game. That puts the stupid superbowl's won or lost argument to rest.

Also the rule changes that have made it easier for quarterbacks and receivers should be taken into account to put achievements in context. Montana, Marino, Elway, Kelly, etc. did not have the luxury of these rules to run up stats like Peyton and Brady. Not to say Peyton and Brady aren't greats, just be honest and judge it with context.

 

[fbj]

Dan Marino never won a superbowl and is easily one of the top five quarterbacks to ever play the game. That puts the stupid superbowl's won or lost argument to rest.

Also the rule changes that have made it easier for quarterbacks and receivers should be taken into account to put achievements in context. Montana, Marino, Elway, Kelly, etc. did not have the luxury of these rules to run up stats like Peyton and Brady. Not to say Peyton and Brady aren't greats, just be honest and judge it with context.

What did Marino help his team accomplish? I don't want to hear about individual stats

 

[Rustic]

Best QB of all time...

In 2014, Peyton Manning set the all-time mark for most passing touchdowns in an NFL career, but that is far from his only record after 18 seasons in the NFL. Here are Manning's major records in a career that is a lock for Canton.

• NFL career passing touchdown record: 539
• Most passing yards, career: 71,940
• Single season touchdown record (2013): 55
• Most passing yards, season (2013): 5,477
• Most wins (including playoffs): 200
• Most games throwing for 300+ yards: 93
• Most passing touchdowns in a single game (tied, 2013): 7
• Most games with a passing rating higher than 105: 97
• Most games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 5
• Most seasons with 350+ completions: 10
• Most games completing 80-percent passing: 19
• Most game-winning drives: 56
• Most comeback wins: 45
• Highest completion percentage in a postseason game with 450+ yards (2005): 81.8
• Highest yards-per-game, season (2013): 342.31
• Most games with 4+ touchdown passes: 25
• Most seasons passing for 4,000+ yards: 14
• Most consecutive seasons with 25+ touchdowns: 13
• One of two quarterbacks to ever beat all 32 teams (along with Brett Favre)
• First quarterback to beat 31 franchises: 2007
• Most Associated Press NFL MVP awards: 5 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)
• Oldest QB to win SB - almost a decade between SB wins - his last game played and won was SB50 - not ever a distraction on and off the field - won a SB with two different teams first to do so - like a coach on the field - best work ethic in football...

 

[WheelieAddict]

Dan Marino never won a superbowl and is easily one of the top five quarterbacks to ever play the game. That puts the stupid superbowl's won or lost argument to rest.

Also the rule changes that have made it easier for quarterbacks and receivers should be taken into account to put achievements in context. Montana, Marino, Elway, Kelly, etc. did not have the luxury of these rules to run up stats like Peyton and Brady. Not to say Peyton and Brady aren't greats, just be honest and judge it with context.

What did Marino help his team accomplish? I don't want to hear about individual stats

Marino never had a great defense or great running game to back him up. He did have some good receivers like Clayton, Duper, etc. but not many. He was also clutch in crunch time. You could never count him out with time left on the clock. He carried Dolphin teams to the playoffs year after year despite not always having a great team around him.

 

[fbj]

Best QB of all time...

In 2014, Peyton Manning set the all-time mark for most passing touchdowns in an NFL career, but that is far from his only record after 18 seasons in the NFL. Here are Manning's major records in a career that is a lock for Canton.

• NFL career passing touchdown record: 539
• Most passing yards, career: 71,940
• Single season touchdown record (2013): 55
• Most passing yards, season (2013): 5,477
• Most wins (including playoffs): 200
• Most games throwing for 300+ yards: 93
• Most passing touchdowns in a single game (tied, 2013): 7
• Most games with a passing rating higher than 105: 97
• Most games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 5
• Most seasons with 350+ completions: 10
• Most games completing 80-percent passing: 19
• Most game-winning drives: 56
• Most comeback wins: 45
• Highest completion percentage in a postseason game with 450+ yards (2005): 81.8
• Highest yards-per-game, season (2013): 342.31
• Most games with 4+ touchdown passes: 25
• Most seasons passing for 4,000+ yards: 14
• Most consecutive seasons with 25+ touchdowns: 13
• One of two quarterbacks to ever beat all 32 teams (along with Brett Favre)
• First quarterback to beat 31 franchises: 2007
• Most Associated Press NFL MVP awards: 5 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)
• Oldest QB to win SB - almost a decade between SB wins - his last game played and won was SB50 - not ever a distraction on and off the field - won a SB with two different teams first to do so - like a coach on the field - best work ethic in football...

Did he go beyond the 1st round of the playoffs often?

Was there a season where he started every game and his team missed the playoffs?

 

[Papageorgio]

Best QB of all time...

In 2014, Peyton Manning set the all-time mark for most passing touchdowns in an NFL career, but that is far from his only record after 18 seasons in the NFL. Here are Manning's major records in a career that is a lock for Canton.

• NFL career passing touchdown record: 539
• Most passing yards, career: 71,940
• Single season touchdown record (2013): 55
• Most passing yards, season (2013): 5,477
• Most wins (including playoffs): 200
• Most games throwing for 300+ yards: 93
• Most passing touchdowns in a single game (tied, 2013): 7
• Most games with a passing rating higher than 105: 97
• Most games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 5
• Most seasons with 350+ completions: 10
• Most games completing 80-percent passing: 19
• Most game-winning drives: 56
• Most comeback wins: 45
• Highest completion percentage in a postseason game with 450+ yards (2005): 81.8
• Highest yards-per-game, season (2013): 342.31
• Most games with 4+ touchdown passes: 25
• Most seasons passing for 4,000+ yards: 14
• Most consecutive seasons with 25+ touchdowns: 13
• One of two quarterbacks to ever beat all 32 teams (along with Brett Favre)
• First quarterback to beat 31 franchises: 2007
• Most Associated Press NFL MVP awards: 5 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)
• Oldest QB to win SB - almost a decade between SB wins - his last game played and won was SB50 - not ever a distraction on and off the field - won a SB with two different teams first to do so - like a coach on the field - best work ethic in football...

Did he go beyond the 1st round of the playoffs often?

Was there a season where he started every game and his team missed the playoffs?

He appeared in four Super Bowls.

 

[Rustic]

Best QB of all time...

In 2014, Peyton Manning set the all-time mark for most passing touchdowns in an NFL career, but that is far from his only record after 18 seasons in the NFL. Here are Manning's major records in a career that is a lock for Canton.

• NFL career passing touchdown record: 539
• Most passing yards, career: 71,940
• Single season touchdown record (2013): 55
• Most passing yards, season (2013): 5,477
• Most wins (including playoffs): 200
• Most games throwing for 300+ yards: 93
• Most passing touchdowns in a single game (tied, 2013): 7
• Most games with a passing rating higher than 105: 97
• Most games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 5
• Most seasons with 350+ completions: 10
• Most games completing 80-percent passing: 19
• Most game-winning drives: 56
• Most comeback wins: 45
• Highest completion percentage in a postseason game with 450+ yards (2005): 81.8
• Highest yards-per-game, season (2013): 342.31
• Most games with 4+ touchdown passes: 25
• Most seasons passing for 4,000+ yards: 14
• Most consecutive seasons with 25+ touchdowns: 13
• One of two quarterbacks to ever beat all 32 teams (along with Brett Favre)
• First quarterback to beat 31 franchises: 2007
• Most Associated Press NFL MVP awards: 5 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)
• Oldest QB to win SB - almost a decade between SB wins - his last game played and won was SB50 - not ever a distraction on and off the field - won a SB with two different teams first to do so - like a coach on the field - best work ethic in football...

Did he go beyond the 1st round of the playoffs often?

Was there a season where he started every game and his team missed the playoffs?

Peyton made his team better, no doubt Joe was a great quarterback but he was also on the best team in NFL history...
Peyton never had a team that approached Joe's...

 

[fbj]

Best QB of all time...

In 2014, Peyton Manning set the all-time mark for most passing touchdowns in an NFL career, but that is far from his only record after 18 seasons in the NFL. Here are Manning's major records in a career that is a lock for Canton.

• NFL career passing touchdown record: 539
• Most passing yards, career: 71,940
• Single season touchdown record (2013): 55
• Most passing yards, season (2013): 5,477
• Most wins (including playoffs): 200
• Most games throwing for 300+ yards: 93
• Most passing touchdowns in a single game (tied, 2013): 7
• Most games with a passing rating higher than 105: 97
• Most games with a perfect passer rating of 158.3: 5
• Most seasons with 350+ completions: 10
• Most games completing 80-percent passing: 19
• Most game-winning drives: 56
• Most comeback wins: 45
• Highest completion percentage in a postseason game with 450+ yards (2005): 81.8
• Highest yards-per-game, season (2013): 342.31
• Most games with 4+ touchdown passes: 25
• Most seasons passing for 4,000+ yards: 14
• Most consecutive seasons with 25+ touchdowns: 13
• One of two quarterbacks to ever beat all 32 teams (along with Brett Favre)
• First quarterback to beat 31 franchises: 2007
• Most Associated Press NFL MVP awards: 5 (2003, 2004, 2008, 2009, 2013)
• Oldest QB to win SB - almost a decade between SB wins - his last game played and won was SB50 - not ever a distraction on and off the field - won a SB with two different teams first to do so - like a coach on the field - best work ethic in football...

Did he go beyond the 1st round of the playoffs often?

Was there a season where he started every game and his team missed the playoffs?

He appeared in four Super Bowls.

?? Was? San fran?

 

[rightwinger]

Brady is not better than Montana because Montana never lost a SB

Joe Montana lost 12 Super Bowls. If you can't even get your team to the Super Bowl, you have lost that season

Brady has gotten his team to the Super Bowl six times and won four. The two he lost against the Giants, he had his team in the lead with two minutes left. Patriot defense lost both times

Brady never had HOF receivers Rice and Taylor to throw to.

4-0 is better than 4-2

No it's not

A team not making the Super Bowl is not better than a team who does

He is undefeated in the SB. Debate over

How does not making a Super Bowl exceed getting there and losing?

Brady won four Superbowls/Montana won four Superbowls
Brady won six AFC Championships/ Montana won four NFC Championships
Brady appeared in nine AFC Championships/ Montana appeared in seven AFC/NFC Championships
Brady playoff record 22-9/ Montana playoff record 16-7
Both are two time MVPs
Brady 58,000 yds passing/ Montana 40,500 yds
Brady 428 TD-150 Int/ Montana 273 TD-139 Int
Brady QB rating 96.4/ Montana 92.3

Very close, but Brady has an advantage

 

[Papageorgio]

You could make a good argument for either Manning, Montana or Brady.

Montana played in a different era, had great defenses, supported by a good running game and great receivers.

Brady played in the passing era with rule changes that favored the QB, he had average or below receivers, a good running game and good defenses.

Manning played in the passing era with rule changes that favored the QB, he had good to great receivers, a good running game and bad defenses with exceptions of the years he won Super Bowls.

 

[fbj]

You could make a good argument for either Manning, Montana or Brady.

Montana played in a different era, had great defenses, supported by a good running game and great receivers.

Brady played in the passing era with rule changes that favored the QB, he had average or below receivers, a good running game and good defenses.

Manning played in the passing era with rule changes that favored the QB, he had good to great receivers, a good running game and bad defenses with exceptions of the years he won Super Bowls.

Elway is above manning