Perhaps the best test of alternate realities - clear video of the shooting

[Mac1958]

This thread is less about the Minnesota shooting and more about how America has split into two different realities.

President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Noem and most MAGAs on this site are saying the ICE agent was "hit" or "run over".

This is easily the clearest view of the positioning of the vehicle and the shooter. At :09, she puts the vehicle in drive, you can see the tires turning to the right, and the shooting begins.

Please view this video and describe how the agent is "hit". Or, please tell me if you think Trump, Vance, Noem and MAGA are lying.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SEE.

 

[buttercup]

There's another clip of the incident from an entirely different standpoint that shows there was contact. But nevertheless, he put himself in front of a vehicle and stayed there when he didn't have to, and did other things wrong too, as this retired agent with 25 years experience including in the investigative arm of ICE/DHS explains:

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[Muhammed]

This thread is less about the Minnesota shooting and more about how America has split into two different realities.

President Trump, Vice President Vance, Secretary Noem and most MAGAs on this site are saying the ICE agent was "hit" or "run over".

This is easily the clearest view of the positioning of the vehicle and the shooter. At :09, she puts the vehicle in drive, you can see the tires turning to the right, and the shooting begins.

Please view this video and describe how the agent is "hit". Or, please tell me if you think Trump, Vance, Noem and MAGA are lying.

PLEASE DESCRIBE WHAT YOU SEE.

She tried to maneuver around the officers and their vehicles. One cop would have none of it and shot her dead.

I don't know why they were after her. Did she hit someone before this video begins? But I do know the the officer was recently drug 50 feet down the street and was hospitalized in another incident.

 

[Mac1958]

She tried to maneuver around the officers and their vehicles. One cop would have none of it and shot her dead.

I don't know why they were after her. Did she hit someone before this video begins? But I do know the the officer was recently drug 50 feet down the street and was hospitalized in another incident.

Trump, Vance, Noem, and most of MAGA here are saying he was hit.

Are they lying?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

She tried to maneuver around the officers and their vehicles. One cop would have none of it and shot her dead.

I don't know why they were after her. Did she hit someone before this video begins? But I do know the the officer was recently drug 50 feet down the street and was hospitalized in another incident.

It’s pointless confronting Trump Cult members with facts and the truth.

The reprehensible right will always defend the indefensible.

 

[Mac1958]

There's another clip of the incident from an entirely different standpoint that shows there was contact. But nevertheless, he put himself in front of a vehicle and stayed there when he didn't have to, and did other things wrong too, as this retired agent with 25 years experience including in the investigative arm of ICE/DHS explains:

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That's the same video I provided. Please describe the "contact".

And by the way, in my reality, I can see the vehicle turning to the right before the shots.

 

[buttercup]

That's the same video I provided. Please describe the "contact".

And by the way, in my reality, I can see the vehicle turning to the right before the shots.

No, I'm saying there's a whole different video from a different standpoint. It's not in that one I posted. But my point was that it doesn't matter because he purposely placed himself there to block her instead of simply letting her leave. As the retired federal agent with expertise in that area stated.

 

[Muhammed]

Trump, Vance, Noem, and most of MAGA here are saying he was hit.

Are they lying?

You can't really tell due to the angle of that video, but if there was contact it was because he ran at the car.

If anyone says she ran him over that a lie.

I understand why they are trying to back up the officer, they need to keep up officer morale, but I think it's a bad shoot.

 

[Mac1958]

No, there's a different video. It's not in that one. But my point was that it doesn't matter because he purposely placed himself there to block her instead of simply letting her leave. As the retired federal agent with expertise in that area stated.

So there is a different video that actually shows contact, the body of the car striking the body of the shooter?

Do you believe the video I provided is not real?

 

[Mac1958]

You can't really tell due to the angle of that video, but if there was contact it was because he ran at the car.

Okay, I believe that's what you see.

 

[buttercup]

So there is a different video that actually shows contact?

Do you believe the video I provided is not real?

Yes, of course it's real. But there are a few clips out there, from different angles. And I'm not a MAGA btw. But I think you already know that.

 

[Mac1958]

Yes, of course it's real. But there are a few clips out there, from different angles. And I'm not a MAGA btw. But I think you already know that.

In the video I provided, there is clearly no contact. So unless the video I provided is not real, something is amiss.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

 

[Mac1958]

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They're convinced. The vehicle struck the shooter.

And I think they're being honest. That's what the thread is about.

 

[buttercup]

In the video I provided, there is clearly no contact. So unless the video I provided is not real, something is amiss.

I'm starting to think something is amiss too. Because the clip you posted is real. And I agree with you, it appears that there was no contact. But strangely, in the other clip that was going around, from the different standpoint, it looks very different. But again, it doesn't matter anyway for the reasons I already stated.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

They're convinced. The vehicle struck the shooter.

And I think they're being honest.

They're listening to a regime, that have severe mental issues.

That's what the thread is about.

 

[Mac1958]

They're listening to a regime, that have severe mental issues.

This is pretty clear cut. The regime is lying. Blatantly.

But it gets worse: I don't think these people are lying. I think they really believe the vehicle hit the guy. That's much more concerning. I'd much rather they were lying.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

This is pretty clear cut. The regime is lying. Blatantly.

But it gets worse: I don't think these people are lying. I think they really believe the vehicle hit the guy. That's much more concerning. I'd much rather they were lying.

I think LYING a prerequisite to work in the Trump regime

 

[Mac1958]

This is the best case I can think of where the two realities are so clear.

They're saying they've seen the vehicle clearly hit the shooter. They say the shooter moved out of the way of the vehicle. They say the vehicle went right at the shooter.

I see absolutely no contact, clearly. I see the vehicle beginning to turn just before the shots are fired, I see the shooter standing in place and turning with the vehicle to keep firing.

And I believe they're serious. Two different realities, literally.

 

[Nuthin' Fancy]

ICE Academy Training Slashed in Bizarre Homage to Trump​

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2 days ago — The number of ICE agents' training days was reduced to 47 days months before an ICE agent killed an unarmed mother in Minnesota.