CrusaderFrank
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All I can say is my life would have taken a whole other direction if I wasn't a tone deaf weasel.
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He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
None of The Beatles could read or write a note of musicHe is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
You are describing relative pitch or "playing by ear". It's pretty common for musicians to have this skill. Perfect pitch is being able to identify the key of a song just by hearing it or identify the exact notes of a chord by hearing it.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
You are describing relative pitch or "playing by ear". It's pretty common for musicians to have this skill. Perfect pitch is being able to identify the key of a song just by hearing it or identify the exact notes of a chord by hearing it.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
None of The Beatles could read or write a note of musicHe is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
I am a musician, I can read, write and play by ear. I have good relative pitch but do not have perfect pitch. Relative pitch definitely involves hearing by ear. I hear a song and go over to the piano and within a couple of notes I can play the melody and if it's not too complicated I can put chords to it. That is relative pitch.You are describing relative pitch or "playing by ear". It's pretty common for musicians to have this skill. Perfect pitch is being able to identify the key of a song just by hearing it or identify the exact notes of a chord by hearing it.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
Relative pitch is being able to find any other note on the scale from a reference note. It's a "sight-singing" skill--and does involve hearing by ear, but also a little more than that. Not just, say, the chord progressions normally found in pop music but actual melody lines and etc.
I find that hard to believe.None of The Beatles could read or write a note of musicHe is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
Honey, I play and sing by ear.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
No, that's intonation. Matching pitch. That's not what musicians mean when they say "perfect pitch". Perfect pitch is described in the video.
Honey, I play by ear.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
No, that's intonation. Matching pitch. That's not what musicians mean when they say "perfect pitch". Perfect pitch is described in the video.
You are describing relative pitch or "playing by ear". It's pretty common for musicians to have this skill. Perfect pitch is being able to identify the key of a song just by hearing it or identify the exact notes of a chord by hearing it.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
Honey, I play by ear.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
No, that's intonation. Matching pitch. That's not what musicians mean when they say "perfect pitch". Perfect pitch is described in the video.
K. So do I. That's still not perfect pitch. ETA: Even "singing by ear" is not perfect pitch. Perfect pitch is someone says, "Sing me a b-flat above middle C", and you can sing it out of the clear blue sky. IOW all the pitches are perfectly in your head all the time. Very few people can do this--it's not just "singing in tune", or being able to read notes and reproduce them.
Singing solo on pitch without a prompt or music playing, when asked for a particular song isn’t perfect pitch?Honey, I play by ear.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
No, that's intonation. Matching pitch. That's not what musicians mean when they say "perfect pitch". Perfect pitch is described in the video.
K. So do I. That's still not perfect pitch. ETA: Even "singing by ear" is not perfect pitch. Perfect pitch is someone says, "Sing me a b-flat above middle C", and you can sing it out of the clear blue sky. IOW all the pitches are perfectly in your head all the time. Very few people can do this--it's not just "singing in tune", or being able to read notes and reproduce them.
Singing solo on pitch without a prompt or music playing, when asked for a particular song isn’t perfect pitch?Honey, I play by ear.He is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
No, that's intonation. Matching pitch. That's not what musicians mean when they say "perfect pitch". Perfect pitch is described in the video.
K. So do I. That's still not perfect pitch. ETA: Even "singing by ear" is not perfect pitch. Perfect pitch is someone says, "Sing me a b-flat above middle C", and you can sing it out of the clear blue sky. IOW all the pitches are perfectly in your head all the time. Very few people can do this--it's not just "singing in tune", or being able to read notes and reproduce them.
No. Like I said, that's good intonation, that's all. Even if you remember the key over and over--and hit it close, that could be put down to muscle memory, most likely. But at any rate, there's no way to test perfect pitch if you can't name the notes. You're hearing notes in your head--all musicians do this. You can't reproduce music without internal hearing. But whether you're hearing notes and are absolute pitches externally, we cannot know if you can't name them externally.
Lots and lots of people do not actually know what perfect pitch is. To give you another idea, we had a gal in my college choir with perfect pitch. Director did not need a pitch pipe. He would turn to her and say "E flat" and she would sing one. Pulled from the clear blue sky.
For whatever reason, some don’t understand.None of The Beatles could read or write a note of musicHe is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
Ok, I hear what you are saying, but I still disagree that someone can’t have perfect pitch without knowing the name of the key. If they can hear it, perfectly reproduce it, either by singing, or hitting the note on a piano, I say that is perfect pitch, despite what some may say-
Absolute pitch
Absolute pitch, widely referred to as perfect pitch, is a rare auditory phenomenon characterized by the ability of a person to identify or re-create a given musical note without the benefit of a reference tone.
Singing solo on pitch without a prompt or music playing, when asked for a particular song isn’t perfect pitch?Honey, I play by ear.No, that's intonation. Matching pitch. That's not what musicians mean when they say "perfect pitch". Perfect pitch is described in the video.
K. So do I. That's still not perfect pitch. ETA: Even "singing by ear" is not perfect pitch. Perfect pitch is someone says, "Sing me a b-flat above middle C", and you can sing it out of the clear blue sky. IOW all the pitches are perfectly in your head all the time. Very few people can do this--it's not just "singing in tune", or being able to read notes and reproduce them.
No. Like I said, that's good intonation, that's all. Even if you remember the key over and over--and hit it close, that could be put down to muscle memory, most likely. But at any rate, there's no way to test perfect pitch if you can't name the notes. You're hearing notes in your head--all musicians do this. You can't reproduce music without internal hearing. But whether you're hearing notes and are absolute pitches externally, we cannot know if you can't name them externally.
Lots and lots of people do not actually know what perfect pitch is. To give you another idea, we had a gal in my college choir with perfect pitch. Director did not need a pitch pipe. He would turn to her and say "E flat" and she would sing one. Pulled from the clear blue sky.
None of The Beatles could read or write a note of musicHe is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
per·fect pitchHe is wrong that perfect pitch is equal to being able to label the key name as played. Perfect pitch is able to hear a note and being able to recreate it perfectly on key. There are those with perfect pitch that can’t read a note of music on paper. That was a truly bad example for his belief.
No, that's intonation. Matching pitch. That's not what musicians mean when they say "perfect pitch". Perfect pitch is described in the video.