Penny Trial Starts for the Homicide of Neely in NYC Subway

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Another travesty of justice by those crazy morons in NYC. Penny, a hero, protected the lives of his fellow passengers and a black drug-addled thug died. WTF is wrong with this picture?

Inside the courtroom, prosecutors delivered their remarks first, conceding that Neely "scared many of the people" on the train where he died.


 
Indeed. The jury has multiple subway riders evidently.

When the MTA has no security on a subway, you can’t prosecute passengers who have to fill the void
 
He probably died of a drug overdone like St. Floyd did.
 
Another travesty of justice by those crazy morons in NYC. Penny, a hero, protected the lives of his fellow passengers and a black drug-addled thug died. WTF is wrong with this picture?

Inside the courtroom, prosecutors delivered their remarks first, conceding that Neely "scared many of the people" on the train where he died.

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Daniel Penny defense calls forensic pathologist to witness stand: 'The chokehold did not cause the death'
Daniel Penny defense calls forensic pathologist to witness stand: 'The chokehold did not cause the death'
 
Update:

Closing arguments set in Daniel Penny trial, charged in subway chokehold death​

Prosecutors say Daniel Penny intended to protect other subway riders but used too much force and was indifferent to the human life he was holding in his arms. Penny's defense disputes medical examiners' findings that the chokehold killed Jordan Neely​

During the monthlong trial, the anonymous jury heard testimony from subway passengers who witnessed the roughly six-minute chokehold, as well as police who responded to it, pathologists, a psychiatric expert, a Marine Corps instructor who taught Penny chokehold techniques and Penny's relatives, friends and fellow Marines. Penny chose not to testify.

Jurors watched videos recorded by bystanders and by police body cameras and saw how Penny explained his actions to officers on the scene and later in a stationhouse interview room.

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“I just wanted to keep him from getting to people,” he told detectives, demonstrating the chokehold and describing Neely as “a crackhead” who was “acting like a lunatic.”

“I'm not trying to kill the guy,” he insisted.

Multiple witnesses said Neely shouted about needing food and something to drink, whipped his jacket to the floor and said he didn't care if he died or went to jail. They differed in descriptions of his movements and whether they were threatening. Several said they were alarmed by him and some were thankful when Penny subdued him.

City medical examiners ruled the chokehold killed Neely. A pathologist hired by Penny’s defense contradicted that finding.

Prosecutors say Penny intended to protect people but used too much force, indifferent to the human life he was holding in his arms. Prosecutors have noted the veteran continued to grip Neely's neck after the train stopped and anyone who wanted to get out could do so, after bystanders urged Penny to let go, and even after Neely had been still for nearly a minute.

The defense contends Penny held on because Neely tried to break loose at points and that the pressure on the man's neck wasn't consistent enough to kill him. Penny's lawyers are likely to emphasize their pathologist's testimony that the man was killed by a variety of factors but not the chokehold.
 
The jury is already asking for "clarification" on jury instructions. Here we go.

Jordan Neely's Dad wants jail time but where the hell was he when his nutcase kid was getting arrested 42 times for assault? Now he shows up and wants "justice" for him.
Do you have a link? Not a criticism I am interested in the trial.
 
Many of the opinions here are hysteria, unless you are in the courtroom and seeing the arguments and evidence how can you prejudge the man's innocence? It is absolutely ludicrous that people like you actually claim to respect law and order, if you did you'd wait until the verdict and respect it.
 
The jury is already asking for "clarification" on jury instructions. Here we go.

Jordan Neely's Dad wants jail time but where the hell was he when his nutcase kid was getting arrested 42 times for assault? Now he shows up and wants "justice" for him.
That is irrelevant.
 
Understand the deceased victim did not attack anyone, did not strike anyone. I used to train a lot in Wing Chun when I lived in London and had a license which would be helpful had I ever had to face charges like this. A key factor is the justification for physical contact in the first place let alone grabbing him and throttling him to death.

There is a legal criteria to when one can physically assault someone else, just walking up and killing them because they are shouting likely doesn't meet that criteria.

If you have any training and Penny certainly did, then you will know how to kill a person and what factors can lead to their death, so you'd be very conscious of what you were doing.

London subways can be trouble just as New York's are, I encountered uncomfortable situations several times.

My gut instinct here is that he'll be found guilty...
 
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Another travesty of justice by those crazy morons in NYC. Penny, a hero, protected the lives of his fellow passengers and a black drug-addled thug died. WTF is wrong with this picture?

Inside the courtroom, prosecutors delivered their remarks first, conceding that Neely "scared many of the people" on the train where he died.

Protected lives?
Whose life was in danger?
 
Were you there, the dainty?
Whose life was in danger?

Some of us live in big cities with public transit where that shit happens all too often, Can be unnerving but I guess you believe people you dislike deserve a death penalty

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