PBS Gets Citizen Question Wrong

[BackAgain]

So no, you can't source or reasonably support anything you say.

When you say "other academics disagree with you" you actually have no idea and can't name any. You just wish it was so and then you just say it.


You do know you are a total clown, right?

Holy shit. It’s still babbling and babbling and babbling like an energizer dumb bell.

 

[Pellinore]

No it’s not what you said, ya pathetic hack retard.

Obviously, we’re talking past each other.
Just as well. You still offer nothing of any substance or consequence.

Despite your retardation I will generously give you a chance to redeem yourself:

In your OWN words - based on your OWN supposed “understanding” — explain the major and most significant difference(s) between a Constitutional republic and a Constitutional democracy.

We don’t need your verbosity. Try to demonstrate your grasp of this matter by being clear and concise.

And … go.

I can do that.

We'll start with the obvious: they're both Constitutional. That is, the structure of the government is dictated by an established Constitution, which we obviously have. Fair enough, move on.

A democracy is a type of government in which the power to make change lies with the people. It is in contrast to an autocracy (where the power lies with one person), a theocracy (the power lies with the church), and lots of others.

A republic is a type of government in which power is spread across many people. It literally means "public thing" and is in contrast to a monarchy, where all of the power resides with the monarch, and every executive, legislative, or judicial proceding is done by them, or in their name.

Because it would be impossible for everyone in our country to vote for every issue, we have a representative democracy, in which each area elects a representative to go to the capital (DC) and represent our area's wishes in the federal government. These days, practically every government that is a republic is also a representative democracy and vice versa, so in practice the two terms are basically interchangeable. You are obviously correct in that we are definitely a republic, but we are also a representative democracy.

None of this is partisan, or opinion, or a secret; you should have all learned it in Middle or High School, so if you need a source, you can dig out your old textbook, and it's in there. Like any science, the terminology in political science is determined by the scientific community; otherwise, they couldn't communicate to advance the field. You can redefine something if you like, and there's no impenetrable rulebook to say you're wrong, but if you're not using the same terms as everyone else, you're probably just going to end up shouting into the void.

So yeah, our system as designed is both a republic and a representative democracy.

 

[BackAgain]

I can do that.

We'll start with the obvious: they're both Constitutional. That is, the structure of the government is dictated by an established Constitution, which we obviously have. Fair enough, move on.

A democracy is a type of government in which the power to make change lies with the people. It is in contrast to an autocracy (where the power lies with one person), a theocracy (the power lies with the church), and lots of others.

A republic is a type of government in which power is spread across many people. It literally means "public thing" and is in contrast to a monarchy, where all of the power resides with the monarch, and every executive, legislative, or judicial proceding is done by them, or in their name.

Because it would be impossible for everyone in our country to vote for every issue, we have a representative democracy, in which each area elects a representative to go to the capital (DC) and represent our area's wishes in the federal government. These days, practically every government that is a republic is also a representative democracy and vice versa, so in practice the two terms are basically interchangeable. You are obviously correct in that we are definitely a republic, but we are also a representative democracy.

None of this is partisan, or opinion, or a secret; you should have all learned it in Middle or High School, so if you need a source, you can dig out your old textbook, and it's in there. Like any science, the terminology in political science is determined by the scientific community; otherwise, they couldn't communicate to advance the field. You can redefine something if you like, and there's no impenetrable rulebook to say you're wrong, but if you're not using the same terms as everyone else, you're probably just going to end up shouting into the void.

So yeah, our system as designed is both a republic and a representative democracy.

Nope. And the question was to Antoinette.

I knew he could never do it.

Except to our liberals, words have (and are supposed to have) meaning. For our liberals, meanings can be dispensed with.

 

[AntonToo]

Nope. And the question was to Antoinette.

Thats right because it's not about facts, which are true no matter who says them, it's about your flaming little personal bullshit.

You get your ego hinged to falsehoods you come to belive for no good reasons, then twist yourself in pretzels trying to sustain it.

 

[BackAgain]

Thats right because it's not about facts, which are true no matter who says them, it's about your flaming little personal bullshit.

No. As usual, you’re wrong.

My effort was designed to compel you to be honest. Obviously, that won’t happen.

You get your ego hinged to falsehoods you come to belive for no good reasons, then twist yourself in pretzels trying to sustain it.

You’re e stuck on your own falsehoods.
Sucks is to be you.

 

[AntonToo]

No. As usual, you’re wrong.

My effort was designed to compel you to be honest. Obviously, that won’t happen.

You’re e stuck on your own falsehoods.
Sucks is to be you.

If that was true you would at least aknowledge what was explained to you by (not me) that a republic is synonymous with representative democracy.

 

[BackAgain]

If that was true you would at least aknowledge what was explained to you by (not me) that a republic is synonymous with representative democracy.

It wasn’t explained. It was claimed. You claimed it and you “supported” your mere claim with some other mere claims.

You’re still wrong.

As I tried so hard to inform you and educate you, we are a Constitutional republic.

 

[AntonToo]

It wasn’t explained. It was claimed. You claimed it and you “supported” your mere claim with some other mere claims.

You’re still wrong.

As I tried so hard to inform you and educate you, we are a Constitutional republic.

Nope crazy, not me

 

[BackAgain]

Nope crazy, not me

Yep. Youre crazy. And linking to some other person’s post utterly fails to satisfy the suggestion that YOU should properly define your terms.

Your ongoing stubborn ignorance notwithstanding, the United States of America has — as its form of government — a Constitutional republic.

 

[Pellinore]

It wasn’t explained. It was claimed. You claimed it and you “supported” your mere claim with some other mere claims.

You’re still wrong.

As I tried so hard to inform you and educate you, we are a Constitutional republic.

Okay. I'm curious; what standard needs to be established in order for you to consider it an explanation? Does it need to come from someone you know, or who shares your political views? Does it need to come from a historian, or a US government teacher, or a political scientist?

We're all human so can be wrong, so imagine for a moment that you are mistaken, however unlikely that may seem. What kind of evidence would you need placed before you to start reconsidering your entrenched ideas?

 

[BackAgain]

Okay. I'm curious; what standard needs to be established in order for you to consider it an explanation? Does it need to come from someone you know, or who shares your political views? Does it need to come from a historian, or a US government teacher, or a political scientist?

We're all human so can be wrong, so imagine for a moment that you are mistaken, however unlikely that may seem. What kind of evidence would you need placed before you to start reconsidering your entrenched ideas?

Reality. Try that. Get back to me.

 

[Pellinore]

Reality. Try that. Get back to me.

Insisting that everyone else is wrong, and you are correct, but with nothing to back it up, tells me that you don't have anything. In my experience, people who don't have the ability to support their beliefs aren't thinking for themselves, and are parroting whatever information was dumped into them.

If that's the case, I'm sorry to hear it. If not, I'd be happy to discuss the sources of your misinformation.

 

[BackAgain]

Insisting that everyone else is wrong, and you are correct, but with nothing to back it up, tells me that you don't have anything. In my experience, people who don't have the ability to support their beliefs aren't thinking for themselves, and are parroting whatever information was dumped into them.

If that's the case, I'm sorry to hear it. If not, I'd be happy to discuss the sources of your misinformation.

Try not to cry.

We are indeed a Constitutional republic.
While we make limited use of elements of democracy (like electing our representatives) that doesn’t make us a democracy.

Learn the meaning of words.

I swear, pelly, it could help you come up with your first intelligent comment.

 

[Pellinore]

Try not to cry.

We are indeed a Constitutional republic.
While we make limited use of elements of democracy (like electing our representatives) that doesn’t make us a democracy.

Learn the meaning of words.

I swear, pelly, it could help you come up with your first intelligent comment.

Okay, all you've got is insults and repetition, then. I get it.

Best of luck to you.

 

[BackAgain]

Okay, all you've got is insults and repetition, then. I get it.

Best of luck to you.

I have something you don’t have. Facts and common sense.