Papa Obama Seen as Anti-Business by 77% of Investors -Where would they get that idea?

[Vast LWC]

The Unemployment rate as of February 2009 was at 8.2%. It has only risen 1.8% since then, and seems to have stabilized.
Hopefully the long-term trend will continue and it will start going down in the next quarter.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Also note that the Unemployment rate increased from 4.7% in the last quarter of 2007 to 8.2% in February of 2009. An increase of 3.5%.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No, I don't. All evidence points to the contrary.

I said monthly job losses peaked in January 2009 and have improved steadily ever since. That is a fact. You are ignorant to deny it.

To say that 'unemployment is improving' while more and more are joining the rolls less quickly, is something only the administration and NYT could love. The rest of us recognize it for hooey.

More and more aren't joining the rolls. Fewer and fewer are. That by definition is improvement.

Were you homeschooled by any chance? You seem to have missed some fundamentals.

 

[Neotrotsky]

I said monthly job losses peaked in January 2009 and have improved steadily ever since. That is a fact. You are ignorant to deny it.

To say that 'unemployment is improving' while more and more are joining the rolls less quickly, is something only the administration and NYT could love. The rest of us recognize it for hooey.

More and more aren't joining the rolls. Fewer and fewer are. That by definition is improvement.

Were you homeschooled by any chance? You seem to have missed some fundamentals.

Hey that is good to know!
Maybe the left should run with that as a slogan for the unemployed:

"Look on the bright side, your numbers are increasing at a decreasing rate"
I think it works- run with it

 

[Annie]

To say that 'unemployment is improving' while more and more are joining the rolls less quickly, is something only the administration and NYT could love. The rest of us recognize it for hooey.

More and more aren't joining the rolls. Fewer and fewer are. That by definition is improvement.

Were you homeschooled by any chance? You seem to have missed some fundamentals.

Hey that is good to know!
Maybe the left should run with that as a slogan for the unemployed:

"Look on the bright side, your numbers are increasing at a decreasing rate"
I think it works- run with it

Exactly. I do hope the liberals keep doing what they're doing. It's going swimmingly.

Conversely, I certainly am waiting for the Conservatives to put out some positions regarding jobs, economy, debt, reforms possible for health care, civilian courts for terrorists, etc.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here's the essential irony of this. The survey was of people in the investment business, largely...check this out:

Bearish investment advisors reach record low


Thursday, December 03, 2009



From The Pragmatic Capitalist:

Investors are increasingly confident in the recovery story. According to Investors Intelligence survey of 140 newsletters just 16.7% are now bearish. This is the lowest reading since June of 2003 after stocks had rallied 30% from their 2002 lows.


So, apparently all these types who claim in some unscientific survey that President Obama is bad for business are in reality more BULLISH about the stock market than they've been in years.

Speaking of hooey.

Stocks - Bearish investment advisors reach record low

 

[Neotrotsky]

Here's the essential irony of this. The survey was of people in the investment business, largely...check this out:




So, apparently all these types who claim in some unscientific survey that President Obama is bad for business are in reality more BULLISH about the stock market than they've been in years.

Speaking of hooey.

Speaking of...... unscientific?
From the article :

"The quarterly Bloomberg Global Poll of investors, traders and analysts in six continents was conducted by Selzer & Co., a Des Moines, Iowa-based firm. It is based on interviews with a random sample of 873 Bloomberg subscribers, representing decision makers in markets, finance and economics. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points."


Who are you - Ellie Light ?

 

[CMike]

This must be the left new math.

Unemployment doesn't seem to be declining to me.

http://data.bls.gov/PDQ/servlet/SurveyOutputServlet?series_id=LNS14000000

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1999 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.3 4.2 4.3 4.3 4.2 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.0
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Democrat congress seizes power in D.C.

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Under Obama

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0

 

[CMike]

http://www.nfib.com/Portals/0/PDF/sbet/sbet201001.pdf

SMALL BUSINESS OPTIMISM INDEX COMPONENTS

Seasonally Change From Contribution
Index Component Adjusted Level Last Month Index Change

Plans to Increase Employment -2% *

Plans to Make Capital Outlays 18% *

Plans to Increase Inventories -8% *

Expect Economy to Improve 2% *

Expect Real Sales Higher -1% *
Current Inventory -4% *

Current Job Openings 10% 2 *

Expected Credit Conditions -15% 0 *

Now a Good Time to Expand 7% -1 *
Earnings Trends -43% 0 *

Total Change -3 *
Based on a Survey of Small and Independent Business Owners
Column 1is the current reading; column 2 is the change

 

[Neotrotsky]

This must be the left new math.

Unemployment doesn't seem to be declining to me.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1999 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.3 4.2 4.3 4.3 4.2 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.0
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Democrat congress seizes power in D.C.

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Under Obama

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0

Shhhh


That's going to be the left's new slogan for the unemployed:

"Look on the bright side, your numbers are increasing at a decreasing rate"
I think it works- they should run with it

 

[CMike]

This must be the left new math.

Unemployment doesn't seem to be declining to me.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1999 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.3 4.2 4.3 4.3 4.2 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.0
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Democrat congress seizes power in D.C.

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Under Obama

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0

Shhhh


That's going to be the left's new slogan for the unemployed:

"Look on the bright side, your numbers are increasing at a decreasing rate"
I think it works- they should run with it

Remember to democrats a reduction in the rate of growth is called a cut.

 

[Sarah G]

and plans to tax “the rich or advantaged.”

Billy boy raised taxes on the highest earners, and we had the biggest stock market boom in history.

Problem isn't just lifting top marginal rate a few points, but Bam's endless rhetoric against profits of all kind.

He isn't against profit, he's against CEOs getting outlandish bonuses and profitting while banks are denying credit to American individuals and small business.

 

[Annie]

and plans to tax “the rich or advantaged.”

Billy boy raised taxes on the highest earners, and we had the biggest stock market boom in history.

Problem isn't just lifting top marginal rate a few points, but Bam's endless rhetoric against profits of all kind.

He isn't against profit, he's against CEOs getting outlandish bonuses and profitting while banks are denying credit to American individuals and small business.

He keeps inciting class warfare and it's not working. Most Americans aspire to high salaries. Even those who realize they won't, have aspirations for their children.

I know of few that just wish for their children to be in the lower classes.

 

[Neotrotsky]

and plans to tax “the rich or advantaged.”

Billy boy raised taxes on the highest earners, and we had the biggest stock market boom in history.

Problem isn't just lifting top marginal rate a few points, but Bam's endless rhetoric against profits of all kind.

He isn't against profit, he's against CEOs getting outlandish bonuses and profitting while banks are denying credit to American individuals and small business.

Right...
Like the ones Fannie Mac & Freddie Mac executives get :


Fannie Mae Retention Bonuses: 4 Top Executives Each Get $1M

The $6-million compensation packages were approved by the Treasury Department and the Federal Housing Finance Agency, and made public on Dec. 24, 2009, Christmas Eve.

 

[Xenophon]

Papa Obama Seen as Anti-Business by 77% of Investors -Where would they get that idea?

Jan. 22 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. investors overwhelmingly see President Barack Obama as anti-business and question his ability to manage a financial crisis, according to a Bloomberg survey.
The global quarterly poll of investors and analysts who are Bloomberg subscribers finds that 77 percent of U.S. respondents believe Obama is too anti-business and four-out-of-five are only somewhat confident or not confident of his ability to handle a financial emergency.
The poll also finds a decline in Obama’s overall favorability rating one year after taking office. He is viewed favorably by 27 percent of U.S. investors. In an October poll, 32 percent in the U.S. held a positive impression.
“Investors no longer feel they can trust their instincts to take risks,” said poll respondent David Young, a managing director for a broker dealer in New York. Young cited Obama’s efforts to trim bonuses and earnings, make health care his top priority over jobs and plans to tax “the rich or advantaged.”

What, the king of class warfare doesn't like business?

Who would have thought that.

 

[mudwhistle]

This must be the left new math.

Unemployment doesn't seem to be declining to me.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1999 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.3 4.2 4.3 4.3 4.2 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.0
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Democrat congress seizes power in D.C.

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Under Obama

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0

Shhhh


That's going to be the left's new slogan for the unemployed:

"Look on the bright side, your numbers are increasing at a decreasing rate"
I think it works- they should run with it

Why do you think the Dems have been trying to extend unemployment benefits for the last 4 years.

Because they were planning on their policies kicking in and they new unemployment would go up.

 

[mudwhistle]

Papa Obama Seen as Anti-Business by 77% of Investors -Where would they get that idea?

Jan. 22 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. investors overwhelmingly see President Barack Obama as anti-business and question his ability to manage a financial crisis, according to a Bloomberg survey.
The global quarterly poll of investors and analysts who are Bloomberg subscribers finds that 77 percent of U.S. respondents believe Obama is too anti-business and four-out-of-five are only somewhat confident or not confident of his ability to handle a financial emergency.
The poll also finds a decline in Obama’s overall favorability rating one year after taking office. He is viewed favorably by 27 percent of U.S. investors. In an October poll, 32 percent in the U.S. held a positive impression.
“Investors no longer feel they can trust their instincts to take risks,” said poll respondent David Young, a managing director for a broker dealer in New York. Young cited Obama’s efforts to trim bonuses and earnings, make health care his top priority over jobs and plans to tax “the rich or advantaged.”

What, the king of class warfare doesn't like business?

Who would have thought that.

Yeah...what a surprise.

More good news:
Obama is planning on addressing the deficit big-time.....after November.

Trying to win the votes of fiscal moderates, President Barack Obama formally endorsed legislation Saturday creating an independent commission with the power to force Congress to vote on major deficit reduction steps this year, after the November elections.


Obama’s statement gives new momentum to efforts in the Senate now to attach such legislation this coming week to a pending debt ceiling bill. But the endorsement comes so late that it risks being seen as just a ploy to win over swing Democratic senators whose votes the White House needs to lift the federal debt ceiling.


Obama endorses deficit commission plan - David Rogers - POLITICO.com

 

[NYcarbineer]

Here's the essential irony of this. The survey was of people in the investment business, largely...check this out:




So, apparently all these types who claim in some unscientific survey that President Obama is bad for business are in reality more BULLISH about the stock market than they've been in years.

Speaking of hooey.

Speaking of...... unscientific?
From the article :

"The quarterly Bloomberg Global Poll of investors, traders and analysts in six continents was conducted by Selzer & Co., a Des Moines, Iowa-based firm. It is based on interviews with a random sample of 873 Bloomberg subscribers, representing decision makers in markets, finance and economics. The poll has a margin of error of plus or minus 3.3 percentage points."


Who are you - Ellie Light ?

They gleaned out an irrelevant subset of Americans, 27% of which give Obama a favorable rating, and try to make something out of the fact that 77% of them think he's anti-business.

duh.

 

[NYcarbineer]

This must be the left new math.

Unemployment doesn't seem to be declining to me.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1999 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.3 4.2 4.3 4.3 4.2 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.0
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Democrat congress seizes power in D.C.

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Under Obama

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0

Who in this thread said the unemployment rate was declining?

 

[NYcarbineer]

This must be the left new math.

Unemployment doesn't seem to be declining to me.

Bureau of Labor Statistics Data

Year Jan Feb Mar Apr May Jun Jul Aug Sep Oct Nov Dec Annual
1999 4.3 4.4 4.2 4.3 4.2 4.3 4.3 4.2 4.2 4.1 4.1 4.0
2000 4.0 4.1 4.0 3.8 4.0 4.0 4.0 4.1 3.9 3.9 3.9 3.9
2001 4.2 4.2 4.3 4.4 4.3 4.5 4.6 4.9 5.0 5.3 5.5 5.7
2002 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 5.8 5.8 5.8 5.7 5.7 5.7 5.9 6.0
2003 5.8 5.9 5.9 6.0 6.1 6.3 6.2 6.1 6.1 6.0 5.8 5.7
2004 5.7 5.6 5.8 5.6 5.6 5.6 5.5 5.4 5.4 5.5 5.4 5.4
2005 5.3 5.4 5.2 5.2 5.1 5.0 5.0 4.9 5.0 5.0 5.0 4.9
2006 4.7 4.8 4.7 4.7 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4

Democrat congress seizes power in D.C.

2007 4.6 4.5 4.4 4.5 4.4 4.6 4.6 4.6 4.7 4.7 4.7 5.0
2008 5.0 4.8 5.1 5.0 5.4 5.5 5.8 6.1 6.2 6.6 6.9 7.4

Under Obama

2009 7.7 8.2 8.6 8.9 9.4 9.5 9.4 9.7 9.8 10.1 10.0 10.0

Shhhh


That's going to be the left's new slogan for the unemployed:

"Look on the bright side, your numbers are increasing at a decreasing rate"
I think it works- they should run with it

Remember to democrats a reduction in the rate of growth is called a cut.

There seem to be a surprising number of people in this thread who don't think there's any difference between losing 700,000 jobs in a month and losing 100,000.

Around here, even the GED classes teach math.

 

[Diuretic]

Billy boy raised taxes on the highest earners, and we had the biggest stock market boom in history.

Problem isn't just lifting top marginal rate a few points, but Bam's endless rhetoric against profits of all kind.

He isn't against profit, he's against CEOs getting outlandish bonuses and profitting while banks are denying credit to American individuals and small business.

He keeps inciting class warfare and it's not working. Most Americans aspire to high salaries. Even those who realize they won't, have aspirations for their children.

I know of few that just wish for their children to be in the lower classes.

But there have to be "lower classes" under capitalism. So who should be there?