Palin daughter calls off engagement

Listen. You ***** have no room to talk about wasting money. Did you see what I wrote earlier? The most waste/fraud/corruption in pork spending comes from Private Companies that get federal dollars. That means companies like Haloburton.

Who are "you *****?" Are you still trying to lump me with the Republicans? I've cast as many stones against them as I have Obama and Co.

You think spending money on Americans in America is waste? Whatever dude. You lost the election, now it is our time to run the show.

On false pretenses. We were promised many things, and we've been given the exact opposite. I knew it would happen, but I can understand why you'd be embarrassed to admit you were wrong.

But for you to say we are spending too much? After the last 8 years? Check out pork in 05 and 06. the GOP knew they were going to lose that year so they bankrupted the country before they left office.

So, it's okay to spend because Republicans did it? That's your argument? What a horrible point to make. I hate wasteful spending, no matter who does it.

All the dems spending will be spent in America, the government will get a lot of it back, and it will actually help the economy.

So that makes it okay? We'll give the poor money they don't deserve ONLY because they'll spend it here and we'll get it back? ******* pathetic.

You and rush need to chill out. You are dead wrong. Most of America says you are dead wrong.

Again, STILL trying to lump me as a Republican. STILL with that "not with us" mindset. Come up with a better argument, you're just sad.

Just because Willow agrees with you, doesn't mean jack shit.

I'm pretty sure Willow and I have had many disagreements. She's way too far right for me, but at least she understand fiscal responsibility. You don't, nor does your messiah.
 
Levi Johnston, 19, said he and 18-year-old Ms Palin mutually decided "a while ago" to separate.

(yea, like, before the election was even over)

Last month, CB reported that Governor Palin refers to Levi Johnston’s family as “white trash”. Levi’s sister says the same thing, only she puts the words “white trash” in Bristol’s mouth. Allegedly, Bristol tells Levi that she doesn’t want the baby around “white trash” unless Levi‘s baby-sitting.

Cele|bitchy » Blog Archive » Bristol Palin won’t let ‘white trash’ Levi see baby Tripp after breakup

Seriously... who gives a crap, and why is she still such a hot topic? For people that wanted to see her drop off the face of the earth, you sure have a hard time cutting that cord...
 
I really think it's astounding that the "so called tolerant" libral left is so viscous toward a young woman.. totally astounding. and disgusting.
 
I don't see that Bristol is an issue. "Abstinence Sarah" did a horseship job raising her kid. There is no reason that Bristol must pay for the mistakes of her stupid mother.
 
Geez--the left just loves this garbage. It's almost hillarious. Here we are in the worst financial crisis since the 1970's & they want to talk about Palin's daughter that had a baby out of wed-lock then ditched her would be husband!

WOW! -- What a world news story. In case you haven't noticed this happens a lot in this country, & it's ignored all the time. Now, I know were the left in this country gets it's news. The Tabloid's.
 
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I don't see that Bristol is an issue. "Abstinence Sarah" did a horseship job raising her kid. There is no reason that Bristol must pay for the mistakes of her stupid mother.
uh, not the mistakes of the mother(Sarah) she(bristol) made her own mistakes and shes dealing with them herself with her parents help(both of them)

you sound like an ignorant idiot saying stupid shit like that
 
This whole crap is about as important as ... Bill and Monica.
no, less than

the bill & monica stuff actually had to do with perjury and obstruction of justice


this has no bearing on anyone other than Bristol, Levi, and their son Tripp
 
I don't see that Bristol is an issue. "Abstinence Sarah" did a horseship job raising her kid. There is no reason that Bristol must pay for the mistakes of her stupid mother.
uh, not the mistakes of the mother(Sarah) she(bristol) made her own mistakes and shes dealing with them herself with her parents help(both of them)

you sound like an ignorant idiot saying stupid shit like that

Moms mistakes for teaching abstinence only. Bristol followed that and got pregnant. Had mom not made that mistake Bristol would not be in this mess. Yes Bristol made a mistake but she is a kid. The adult moron mother made the greater one.
 
This whole crap is about as important as ... Bill and Monica.
no, less than

the bill & monica stuff actually had to do with perjury and obstruction of justice


this has no bearing on anyone other than Bristol, Levi, and their son Tripp

no. the bill and monica stuff had to do with ken starr having nothing else.
 
If Sarah and Todd Palin had failed as parents, Bristol would have had an abortion without them ever being the wiser. If they had failed, they would have kicked her out. So because they taught and believe in abstinence but their teenage daughter acted humanly and acted on her hormones and got pregnant, the parent's failed?? :cuckoo:


I dont see the word failed anywhere in my post. Hypocracy but not failed

You injected your values into your response by stating that she got pregnant and having the child is a success.. others may think at her age a child is not such a good thing...

If your Christian parent is responsible for putting tax dollars into abstinance only education and your daughter gets pregnant while unwed that says a lot about both the parent and the program?


Wrong, I said that she didn't have an abortion and wasn't kicked out by her parents. Those are successes.

Where did I post about abstinence only? Never brought it up, you did. Should abstinence be taught in conjunction with birth control, etc.? Yup. Does teaching sex ed and abstinence guarantee that teenagers won't have sex? Nope. You can only provide the information, teach your children well and be there for them when they make mistakes; you can't live their life for them.

I'm glad they are not getting married. If there were no baby, would they be getting married? Nah. Getting married just because there is a baby isn't the best solution, imo.

Ok.. so having the child is a success.. you stated that.. So an abortion or choosing to put the child up for adoption then is a failure or succes in your book??.. you already stated Obamas girls would have an abortion.. is abortion a failure or a choice?

You also brought up the abstinance belief..

I am also glad they are not getting married.. No baby no marriage.. Seems he was railroaded into proposing just for political apperances..

Two unhappily and probably one angry parent is not the way to raise a child.. Calling it off, thats strong move on her part.. good for her.. Hopefully, Bristol will find a great mate.
 
Neither a liar, or lucky. Just smart.

"Neither a borrower nor a lender be" is from Shakespeare, and good words to live by. If you have to finance it, you don't need it yet. Wait until you can pay cash. Never had a 401K, or any kind of retirement program or pension. Stopped working for other people when I was 25. Never had money out there in investments, long enough to lose it. Worked through the 80s, 90s early "oughts," watching indeed folks make and lose fortunes, while I just patiently and silently collected offal.

When I had enough collected to satisfy my needs, I stopped. Now, I just play. Made $15 grand last week, playing.

Example of how this all happened: I have a marketable skill, can modernize machines and processes, to the great benefit of the companies who hire me. What might cost me $8000 to do to a machine, I would charge $40K for, since a new machine that could do what this modernized one now can do, would run them $80-120K. Simple really, they got a great bargain and I got the vig. Do this for ten years, leaving them smiling and glad you came around, and you will amass wealth that's not at risk.

Now, in my late 40s I can sit back and play little speculative games in the markets, pocketing nice little profits in penny-ante deals, and just smile. I have no debt, owe nobody anything, and take care of living expenses which are meager, with aplomb.

You know, I have an 11 year-old Ford pickup truck with 120,000 miles on it, and no desire ever to get a new one. This truck hasn't given me any trouble, not so much as even a flat tire. It doesn't have a scratch on it, and people still ask me if it's a new truck. I have a nice boat, ATVs, a big plasma TV with 900 watt Dolby Digital 5.1 sound, an acre of land with a decent but not extravagant house, and property taxes are low here. I mean, it's not rocket science.

The accumulation of wealth wasn't my driving force in life. Getting what I wanted was. I never wanted or needed much. Independence and security was all, and I have that now.

I DO in fact feel for the rich folks, and all the ones with 401K's and retirement plans gone south. It's tough noogies for them, but I am insulated. But hell, this is nothing new. I saw it happen in the 80s and 90s too.

Hate and envy "rich" folks like me all you want, but keep in mind there's a difference between rich, and wealthy.

I don't hate people like you. In a way, I am just like you. I don't have a lot of debt, my home is almost paid off, I HAD a lot in savings and I have the boat, motorcycle, I go on trips, etc.

I think YOU hate the middle class. Do you? What about the person that lost their job because it went overseas? I know a lot of Ford Hourly workers who live the exact same lifestyle you live. 30 years and out with a pension and healthcare.

I don't understand why you don't think that's possible in the future? Why can't factory line workers live the American dream too? See, people like you are ok with killing the middle class. So tell me why? Just because corporations tell you it isn't realistic, doesn't mean it is true. Ford and GM were profitable in 1999. What changed?

Were you jealous that factory union workers were able to live the same dream you are living? I didn't mind. Why do you hate them?

I'm a salesperson, and I do quite well. But not as well as I would in a good economy, and I blame the GOP for this economy. When they sent all the manufacturing jobs out of the country and put thousands of people out of work, it lowered all of our wages.

Couldn't you make just as good $ in a good economy? Or do companies only use you in a bad economy?

YOU, are not the source of my anger. Bernie Maydoff, Bush, Enron execs, Oil Execs, Mortgage companies that made money bundling mortgages and suckered a lot of people into sub primes they knew they couldn't afford, the people who own the Federal Reserve, the GOP leaders like Chaney & Delay who deregulated everything so that corporations could pollute so to maximize profits, CEO's that took $20 million dollar bonus' while their companies went under, or CEO's that took $20 million because their company went overseas and so they made a profit by putting Americans out of work and lowering wages. Did you do any of that? Then I don't hate you. Do you defend these things? Then that might be why you think I hate you, because then I think you are a selfish prick. Are you?

I could go on and on, but I think you get the point. I "hate" the people who ruined America for the middle class. Can everyone do what you do? Can all the people struggling now find work like you do? Then what about them? FDR cared about them. He was even called a traitor to his class. Just like I think all the broke republicans on this site are traitors to their class. They won't wake up until it happens to them.

So I always tell people, if you are a republican, its either because you are ignorant, greedy or racist, or a combination of all three.

I put you in the greedy category. I don't know enough about you to figure out if you are ignorant and racist, but I'm sure I'll find out soon.
You're completely confused. For one thing, I am not a republican. You might find a thread about me on this somewhere here, where I freely discuss my stances and clear up ignorant, confused assumptions.

I believe ALL folks should earn what they wish and be able to enjoy it. I don't play the class warfare game. Lower, middle, upper-middle, upper, none of that rings any bell to me at all.

Were I greedy, I would still be taking those contracts to do what I do, and making obscene profits doing so. Know what I do instead? I refer these customers when they call me to a young protege whom I trained and worked with, who now does what I used to. That's my version of "spreading the wealth around" but see, he earns his money just like I did.

Folks who worked their tails off for companies and who now collect pensions, bonuses, "legacy" medical coverage, and etc? More power to them I say. There's more than one way to skin a cat!

The important thing is, decide young what you want out of the rat race and how best to get it and get out of the race as soon as possible. It doesn't have to be millions. And never take foolish risks with your wealth. Greed leads to this more than anything else.

Oh, I thought you were a republican. I was going to point out that you are greedy if you feel that you pay too much in taxes when apparently, you make plenty more than enough to pay a little more if it means "labor" can pay a little less.

Because the masses, the people making $40K, are the ones paying too much in taxes.

And you seem to be suggesting that the rest of us who are struggling, who do have house payments, who are in debt, who did lose on their 401K's, who's homes did go down in value, you seem to be suggesting that we don't work hard. Because you brag about the one person who will carry on your work. That's not spreading the wealth, that's passing on your wealth to your kid and trying to keep your fortune all in the family.

It doesn't work that way. Thomas Jefferson said the reason we pay a death tax is because a man's accumilated wealth can be dangerous to democracy. He passes it on to his kid tax free, and his kid does the same, so on and so on, until they are simply too rich for democracy.

So anyways, that's getting off point. If you are not a Republican, then why am I arguing with you?

But as for not buying into class warefare? You have the luxury of not having to. And trust us, from where we are, class warefare is going on. It may not behoove you to admit it, but it does exist.

Did you hear Kramer last night? We were right. The bankers did crash this economy on purpose. Exactly what we said.

Now do what Ron Paul says to do, end the Federal Reserve. Those bankers have taken over our country.

I don't hate you, you worked and earned what you have. They have pitted you and I against each other. Of course the government should spend less. End the Federal Reserve and get your wish. Of course we should pay less in taxes. End the Federal Reserve and get your wish.

Right now, you and I are seeing the worst plundering of a nation’s wealth in the history of civilization – all led by the out of control Federal Reserve.

If you and I don’t act today, I’m afraid this crisis will end with the economic ruin of every man, woman and child in the United States.

Just think about the scope of the problem for a minute: The Fed pumps trillions of dollars in fiat currency into a system already overloaded by the massive amount of dollars committed to the economic bailouts in recent months.

This TOTALS:

More than the socialist New Deal...
More than the entire Iraq debacle...
More than the 1980’s savings and loan mess...
More than the Korean War...

COMBINED.

Where will it all end?

It’s time you and I put a stop to an out of control Federal Reserve. And Ron Paul has a bill before Congress to do just that.

That’s why it’s vital you fill out your personal "Audit the Fed" petition in support of Congressman Paul’s bill.

Today, $9.7 TRILLION in taxpayer dollars in bailouts and loans have been agreed to by Congress, the Bush and Obama Treasury Departments, and the Federal Reserve.

Poll after poll shows the American people are fed up and are ready for fresh leadership to make their voices heard in Washington.

That means it’s a perfect time to unleash the Ron Paul R3VOLUTION on the out of control Fed!

Please complete this petition urging your Congressman to cosponsor and a seek roll-call vote on Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed Bill -- the first step toward ENDING THE FEDERAL RESERVE once and for all!

As I know you’re aware, the Federal Reserve’s inner-workings are shrouded in secrecy, and their meetings are off-limits to the public.

Just recently, the Federal Reserve told Congress “NO WAY” when asked to account for TWO TRILLION DOLLARS in taxpayer-backed loans!

Well, why do you think they refused?

They know coming clean with Congress and the American people on how they doled out those two TRILLION dollars would result in an anti-Fed firestorm.

So can you imagine the impact of a full-scale audit?
 
I dont see the word failed anywhere in my post. Hypocracy but not failed

You injected your values into your response by stating that she got pregnant and having the child is a success.. others may think at her age a child is not such a good thing...

If your Christian parent is responsible for putting tax dollars into abstinance only education and your daughter gets pregnant while unwed that says a lot about both the parent and the program?


Wrong, I said that she didn't have an abortion and wasn't kicked out by her parents. Those are successes.

Where did I post about abstinence only? Never brought it up, you did. Should abstinence be taught in conjunction with birth control, etc.? Yup. Does teaching sex ed and abstinence guarantee that teenagers won't have sex? Nope. You can only provide the information, teach your children well and be there for them when they make mistakes; you can't live their life for them.

I'm glad they are not getting married. If there were no baby, would they be getting married? Nah. Getting married just because there is a baby isn't the best solution, imo.

Ok.. so having the child is a success.. you stated that.. So an abortion or choosing to put the child up for adoption then is a failure or succes in your book??.. you already stated Obamas girls would have an abortion.. is abortion a failure or a choice?

You also brought up the abstinance belief..

I am also glad they are not getting married.. No baby no marriage.. Seems he was railroaded into proposing just for political apperances..

Two unhappily and probably one angry parent is not the way to raise a child.. Calling it off, thats strong move on her part.. good for her.. Hopefully, Bristol will find a great mate.


Abortion is murder -- you can make the call as to whether that's failure or not. (and no, I'm not derailing this thread to get into yet another abortion argument.)

I never posted 'abstinence only'. I said because they (the parents) believe and taught abstinence . . . does that mean they also didn't teach or talk about birth control as well? I don't know, I wasn't there. My point is that the parents didn't fail Bristol in anything . . . Bristol made her own decision. All parents can do is teach their children well and be there when they make mistakes to support them.

We're in complete agreement in regards to your last two sentences.
 
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Oh, I thought you were a republican. I was going to point out that you are greedy if you feel that you pay too much in taxes when apparently, you make plenty more than enough to pay a little more if it means "labor" can pay a little less.

Because the masses, the people making $40K, are the ones paying too much in taxes.


And you seem to be suggesting that the rest of us who are struggling, who do have house payments, who are in debt, who did lose on their 401K's, who's homes did go down in value, you seem to be suggesting that we don't work hard. Because you brag about the one person who will carry on your work. That's not spreading the wealth, that's passing on your wealth to your kid and trying to keep your fortune all in the family.

It doesn't work that way. Thomas Jefferson said the reason we pay a death tax is because a man's accumilated wealth can be dangerous to democracy. He passes it on to his kid tax free, and his kid does the same, so on and so on, until they are simply too rich for democracy.

So anyways, that's getting off point. If you are not a Republican, then why am I arguing with you?

But as for not buying into class warefare? You have the luxury of not having to. And trust us, from where we are, class warefare is going on. It may not behoove you to admit it, but it does exist.

Did you hear Kramer last night? We were right. The bankers did crash this economy on purpose. Exactly what we said.

Now do what Ron Paul says to do, end the Federal Reserve. Those bankers have taken over our country.

I don't hate you, you worked and earned what you have. They have pitted you and I against each other. Of course the government should spend less. End the Federal Reserve and get your wish. Of course we should pay less in taxes. End the Federal Reserve and get your wish.

Right now, you and I are seeing the worst plundering of a nation’s wealth in the history of civilization – all led by the out of control Federal Reserve.

If you and I don’t act today, I’m afraid this crisis will end with the economic ruin of every man, woman and child in the United States.

Just think about the scope of the problem for a minute: The Fed pumps trillions of dollars in fiat currency into a system already overloaded by the massive amount of dollars committed to the economic bailouts in recent months.

This TOTALS:

More than the socialist New Deal...
More than the entire Iraq debacle...
More than the 1980’s savings and loan mess...
More than the Korean War...

COMBINED.

Where will it all end?

It’s time you and I put a stop to an out of control Federal Reserve. And Ron Paul has a bill before Congress to do just that.

That’s why it’s vital you fill out your personal "Audit the Fed" petition in support of Congressman Paul’s bill.

Today, $9.7 TRILLION in taxpayer dollars in bailouts and loans have been agreed to by Congress, the Bush and Obama Treasury Departments, and the Federal Reserve.

Poll after poll shows the American people are fed up and are ready for fresh leadership to make their voices heard in Washington.

That means it’s a perfect time to unleash the Ron Paul R3VOLUTION on the out of control Fed!

Please complete this petition urging your Congressman to cosponsor and a seek roll-call vote on Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed Bill -- the first step toward ENDING THE FEDERAL RESERVE once and for all!

As I know you’re aware, the Federal Reserve’s inner-workings are shrouded in secrecy, and their meetings are off-limits to the public.

Just recently, the Federal Reserve told Congress “NO WAY” when asked to account for TWO TRILLION DOLLARS in taxpayer-backed loans!

Well, why do you think they refused?

They know coming clean with Congress and the American people on how they doled out those two TRILLION dollars would result in an anti-Fed firestorm.

So can you imagine the impact of a full-scale audit?


So MM puts forth HIS effort, HIS time, HIS back into making more money and he should fork over more of what HE earned because someone else DOESN'T work like him?? Warped.

As for the 'people making $40K, are the ones paying too much in taxes'? I'm one of those people and I don't pay and Fed taxes (we get it all back) so I don't know what are you talking about.

As for the last bolded sentence - - thanks for making your shallowness perfectly clear.
 
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Hypocrisy, thy name is conservative republican.


"White children, in the main, and whether they are rich or poor, grow up with a grasp of reality so feeble that they can very accurately be described as deluded--about themselves and the world they live in. White people have managed to get through their entire lifetimes in this euphoric state, but black people have not been so lucky: a black man who sees the world the way John Wayne, for example, sees it would not be an eccentric patriot, but a raving maniac." James Baldwin
 
Oh, I thought you were a republican. I was going to point out that you are greedy if you feel that you pay too much in taxes when apparently, you make plenty more than enough to pay a little more if it means "labor" can pay a little less.

Because the masses, the people making $40K, are the ones paying too much in taxes.


And you seem to be suggesting that the rest of us who are struggling, who do have house payments, who are in debt, who did lose on their 401K's, who's homes did go down in value, you seem to be suggesting that we don't work hard. Because you brag about the one person who will carry on your work. That's not spreading the wealth, that's passing on your wealth to your kid and trying to keep your fortune all in the family.

It doesn't work that way. Thomas Jefferson said the reason we pay a death tax is because a man's accumilated wealth can be dangerous to democracy. He passes it on to his kid tax free, and his kid does the same, so on and so on, until they are simply too rich for democracy.

So anyways, that's getting off point. If you are not a Republican, then why am I arguing with you?

But as for not buying into class warefare? You have the luxury of not having to. And trust us, from where we are, class warefare is going on. It may not behoove you to admit it, but it does exist.

Did you hear Kramer last night? We were right. The bankers did crash this economy on purpose. Exactly what we said.

Now do what Ron Paul says to do, end the Federal Reserve. Those bankers have taken over our country.

I don't hate you, you worked and earned what you have. They have pitted you and I against each other. Of course the government should spend less. End the Federal Reserve and get your wish. Of course we should pay less in taxes. End the Federal Reserve and get your wish.

Right now, you and I are seeing the worst plundering of a nation’s wealth in the history of civilization – all led by the out of control Federal Reserve.

If you and I don’t act today, I’m afraid this crisis will end with the economic ruin of every man, woman and child in the United States.

Just think about the scope of the problem for a minute: The Fed pumps trillions of dollars in fiat currency into a system already overloaded by the massive amount of dollars committed to the economic bailouts in recent months.

This TOTALS:

More than the socialist New Deal...
More than the entire Iraq debacle...
More than the 1980’s savings and loan mess...
More than the Korean War...

COMBINED.

Where will it all end?

It’s time you and I put a stop to an out of control Federal Reserve. And Ron Paul has a bill before Congress to do just that.

That’s why it’s vital you fill out your personal "Audit the Fed" petition in support of Congressman Paul’s bill.

Today, $9.7 TRILLION in taxpayer dollars in bailouts and loans have been agreed to by Congress, the Bush and Obama Treasury Departments, and the Federal Reserve.

Poll after poll shows the American people are fed up and are ready for fresh leadership to make their voices heard in Washington.

That means it’s a perfect time to unleash the Ron Paul R3VOLUTION on the out of control Fed!

Please complete this petition urging your Congressman to cosponsor and a seek roll-call vote on Ron Paul’s Audit the Fed Bill -- the first step toward ENDING THE FEDERAL RESERVE once and for all!

As I know you’re aware, the Federal Reserve’s inner-workings are shrouded in secrecy, and their meetings are off-limits to the public.

Just recently, the Federal Reserve told Congress “NO WAY” when asked to account for TWO TRILLION DOLLARS in taxpayer-backed loans!

Well, why do you think they refused?

They know coming clean with Congress and the American people on how they doled out those two TRILLION dollars would result in an anti-Fed firestorm.

So can you imagine the impact of a full-scale audit?


So MM puts forth HIS effort, HIS time, HIS back into making more money and he should fork over more of what HE earned because someone else DOESN'T work like him?? Warped.

As for the 'people making $40K, are the ones paying too much in taxes'? I'm one of those people and I don't pay and Fed taxes (we get it all back) so I don't know what are you talking about.

As for the last bolded sentence - - thanks for making your shallowness perfectly clear.

You have typical house slave mentality.

Companies are asking people like you to take pay cuts for the good of the company, and you are giving in. With Dems in charge, you have the opportunity to organize, but you will blow your chance. No wonder the bankers who own the country are so bold when ripping us off. Even still you defend them. You are ******* nuts.

The idea that MM pays too much is what is warped. YOU are warped. You can barely get by and you will never retire and your home value took a dump, and yet you defend MM.

MM doesn't have to work. His shit is all paid off. He has all the toys. Why shouldn't he pay more so you can pay less? You don't pay Federal? What's all that money coming out of your check every month? How much do you get back? How's life on 40K? Can't seem to get ahead?

And guys like MM are big on defense. They don't mind that the GOP spent more on defense than every other country combined. So you do realize when they opt not to pay for that stuff and throw it on the debt, that puts more of the burden on you, right?

So you may not pay Federal Taxes, but that doesn't mean you don't owe. They just haven't sent you the bill yet.

I just don't understand when you are living paycheck to paycheck, and working harder than MM, why you think he should be getting more tax breaks instead of you.

Especially when the econony needs us to start spending more. See idiot, it doesn't work when the rich get all the tax breaks. They just save it. Broke asses like you will spend it, or send your kids to college with it, whatever.

And I bet you think CEO's deserve $20 million too. Stupid typical American voter.

And MM says he isn't a Republican, so I'm just using him as an example. If he suggests that he deserves the breaks, go back and read him bragging how he doesn't have to work another day in his life.

I suspect if we roll back the Bush tax breaks, MM will still be alright, and the country will be better off.

The country can't pay it's bills, we're going further and further into debt, and you want the rich to continue getting tax breaks?

Don't you see? They are asking people like you to take a step back and at the same time the rich are getting richer. This isn't how America works. You think it should, but it should not. The 90's were a perfect model of how America should work.

FedEx Pay Cuts Spark Union Talk : NPR

With the recession eating into profits, many employers are trying to cut costs however they can. At FedEx, pay cuts are prompting employees to consider the benefits of unionizing.
 
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Levi Johnston, 19, said he and 18-year-old Ms Palin mutually decided "a while ago" to separate.

(yea, like, before the election was even over)

Last month, CB reported that Governor Palin refers to Levi Johnston’s family as “white trash”. Levi’s sister says the same thing, only she puts the words “white trash” in Bristol’s mouth. Allegedly, Bristol tells Levi that she doesn’t want the baby around “white trash” unless Levi‘s baby-sitting.

Cele|bitchy » Blog Archive » Bristol Palin won’t let ‘white trash’ Levi see baby Tripp after breakup



17 year olds shouldn't have babies, bottom line.

I feel bad for her.


the "white trash" thing sounds made up.
 
Levi Johnston, 19, said he and 18-year-old Ms Palin mutually decided "a while ago" to separate.

(yea, like, before the election was even over)

Last month, CB reported that Governor Palin refers to Levi Johnston’s family as “white trash”. Levi’s sister says the same thing, only she puts the words “white trash” in Bristol’s mouth. Allegedly, Bristol tells Levi that she doesn’t want the baby around “white trash” unless Levi‘s baby-sitting.

Cele|bitchy » Blog Archive » Bristol Palin won’t let ‘white trash’ Levi see baby Tripp after breakup



17 year olds shouldn't have babies, bottom line.

I feel bad for her.


the "white trash" thing sounds made up.

So did the story where Sarah and Todd were trying to get an ex brother in law fired because he was divorcing one of their relatives.

That turned out to be true.

And have you ever been thru a divorce? Ever say anything negative about your ex?
 
Levi Johnston, 19, said he and 18-year-old Ms Palin mutually decided "a while ago" to separate.

(yea, like, before the election was even over)

Last month, CB reported that Governor Palin refers to Levi Johnston’s family as “white trash”. Levi’s sister says the same thing, only she puts the words “white trash” in Bristol’s mouth. Allegedly, Bristol tells Levi that she doesn’t want the baby around “white trash” unless Levi‘s baby-sitting.

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17 year olds shouldn't have babies, bottom line.

I feel bad for her.


the "white trash" thing sounds made up.

So did the story where Sarah and Todd were trying to get an ex brother in law fired because he was divorcing one of their relatives.

That turned out to be true.

And have you ever been thru a divorce? Ever say anything negative about your ex?


yeah, you're right. Everybody trash talks when emotions run high.
 
You have typical house slave mentality.

Companies are asking people like you to take pay cuts for the good of the company, and you are giving in. With Dems in charge, you have the opportunity to organize, but you will blow your chance. No wonder the bankers who own the country are so bold when ripping us off. Even still you defend them. You are ******* nuts.

Um, we haven't taken a pay cut at all. If it came to taking a pay cut or losing your job, which would you choose?

The idea that MM pays too much is what is warped. YOU are warped. You can barely get by and you will never retire and your home value took a dump, and yet you defend MM.

I can barely get by? Where the hell do you come up with this stuff?? We're doing just fine, thanks. We'll never retire? :lol: Wrong again. BTW, everyone's home value is down.


MM doesn't have to work. His shit is all paid off. He has all the toys.

He is in this position because HE choose to work what he did, the way he did in order to reap these benefits.

Why shouldn't he pay more so you can pay less?

Why should he pay more? I already don't pay because people like MM are already footing the bill for -- what is it? something like 60%??


You don't pay Federal? What's all that money coming out of your check every month? How much do you get back?

All.

How's life on 40K? Can't seem to get ahead?

:lol: Let's see -- three kids, own our house (free and clear within the next 5 years), two cars, roof over our heads, food on the table, clothes on our back, healthy. Life's pretty damn good Sealy. Get ahead? What's 'ahead'?


And guys like MM are big on defense. They don't mind that the GOP spent more on defense than every other country combined. So you do realize when they opt not to pay for that stuff and throw it on the debt, that puts more of the burden on you, right?

So you may not pay Federal Taxes, but that doesn't mean you don't owe. They just haven't sent you the bill yet.

I just don't understand when you are living paycheck to paycheck, and working harder than MM, why you think he should be getting more tax breaks instead of you.

Working harder than MM? Maybe, maybe not. I'd say he worked damn hard to earn his paycheck -- probably worked smarter too. People like MM foot the bill for a large percent of the rest.


Especially when the econony needs us to start spending more. See idiot, it doesn't work when the rich get all the tax breaks. Broke asses like you will spend it, or send your kids to college with it, whatever.

Sealy, I'm not broke. You make twice what we do . . . yet all you do is ***** and moan. We make half of what you do . . . have you ever, even once, read about me groaning and whining? If all we (my family) did was spend, spend, spend we wouldn't be where we are today and wouldn't have what we do. Nice to know that you think sending your kids to college is a waste of money.

And I bet you think CEO's deserve $20 million too. Stupid typical American voter.

And MM says he isn't a Republican, so I'm just using him as an example.

But if he were a Republican you'd be ripping him to shreds. You've made this obvious in every post . . . you believe the Republicans are the scourge of the earth and the Democrats are heaven-sent. Wrong on both counts. You simply don't get that both parties are corrupt, both parties believe their way is the right way, both parties believe the other guy is wrong . . . and both parties need each other.

If he suggests that he deserves the breaks, go back and read him bragging how he doesn't have to work another day in his life.

Try to get this Sealy - - - he doesn't have to work another day in his life because he worked harder and smarter to achieve this. Much as you seem to think, this is not a crime. He achieved his 'American dream' but you can't see the forest for the trees.


I suspect if we roll back the Bush tax breaks, MM will still be alright, and the country will be better off.

The country can't pay it's bills, we're going further and further into debt, and you want the rich to continue getting tax breaks?

The country can't pay it's bills, we're going further and further into debt . . . and you think the answer is for Obama and his crew to continue to spend untold amounts of money that we do not have? Wonder why we're going further and further into debt.

Don't you see? They are asking people like you to take a step back and at the same time the rich are getting richer. This isn't how America works. You think it should, but it should not. The 90's were a perfect model of how America should work.

FedEx Pay Cuts Spark Union Talk : NPR

With the recession eating into profits, many employers are trying to cut costs however they can. At FedEx, pay cuts are prompting employees to consider the benefits of unionizing.
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