Palestinians Reject Two State Solution

[montelatici]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

2. Depravity was exhibited by the European invader when they attacked, murdered, raped and evicted the native Muslims and Christians living in Palestine, long before the UN decided to illegally partition the country giving 55% of the land to 30% of of the population and contemplated leaving, in the Jewish partition, 400,000 Muslims and Christians forever to be ruled by Jews, numbering about the same at the time, in dhimmi style fashion never to achieve self-determination.

3. The Palestinians can resist subjugation or passively accept Jewish rule and oppression as second-class citizens in parts of the land deemed Israel or third-class citizens deemed occupied territories. What would you do Rocco, bend over and take it or resist?

 

[Hossfly]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

2. Depravity was exhibited by the European invader when they attacked, murdered, raped and evicted the native Muslims and Christians living in Palestine, long before the UN decided to illegally partition the country giving 55% of the land to 30% of of the population and contemplated leaving, in the Jewish partition, 400,000 Muslims and Christians forever to be ruled by Jews, numbering about the same at the time, in dhimmi style fashion never to achieve self-determination.

3. The Palestinians can resist subjugation or passively accept Jewish rule and oppression as second-class citizens in parts of the land deemed Israel or third-class citizens deemed occupied territories. What would you do Rocco, bend over and take it or resist?

RoccoR do you find it as amusing as I do how this Robot keeps on saying the same thing about these so-called "Native?" I wonder how they would have gotten on if the majority of them stayed in their own impoverished countries that surround Israel instead of coming to the area for the jobs the Israelis had for them, just like we see immigrants today doing. No doubt the British officials in the area saw what was happening and were able to discern which country they came from according to their accent, the same way we here can tell a Southern accent from a New York one. Imagine the UN saying that anyone in the area for only two years can be considered a refugee. Isn't that a hoot? Two years in an area certainly doesn't make one indigenous to the area.

Reports from the British officials in the area sent back to Churchill is no doubt the reason Churchill said:

"So far from being persecuted, the Arabs have crowded into the country and multiplied till their population has increased more than even all world Jewry could lift up the Jewish population."

 

[montelatici]

MJ's propaganda, now the facts:

 

[Hollie]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

2. Depravity was exhibited by the European invader when they attacked, murdered, raped and evicted the native Muslims and Christians living in Palestine, long before the UN decided to illegally partition the country giving 55% of the land to 30% of of the population and contemplated leaving, in the Jewish partition, 400,000 Muslims and Christians forever to be ruled by Jews, numbering about the same at the time, in dhimmi style fashion never to achieve self-determination.

3. The Palestinians can resist subjugation or passively accept Jewish rule and oppression as second-class citizens in parts of the land deemed Israel or third-class citizens deemed occupied territories. What would you do Rocco, bend over and take it or resist?

It's remarkable how these keyboard gee-had types are always so anxious to urge others to die for their personal enjoyment.

 

[Shusha]

... forever to be ruled by Jews ... in dhimmi style fashion never to achieve self-determination ...

Do you not see the absolute irony of your own words?

 

[RoccoR]

montelatici, et al,

Oh this is so ridiculous.

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

(COMMENT)

As you say, "citizens/inhabitants of a particular place." That would be between the people granted Citizenship under the 1925 Citizenship Orders and those previously covered by the Naturalization instructions under the Palestine Order in Council (1922).

2. Depravity was exhibited by the European invader when they attacked, murdered, raped and evicted the native Muslims and Christians living in Palestine, long before the UN decided to illegally partition the country giving 55% of the land to 30% of of the population and contemplated leaving, in the Jewish partition, 400,000 Muslims and Christians forever to be ruled by Jews, numbering about the same at the time, in dhimmi style fashion never to achieve self-determination.

(COMMENT)

How is it that the "UN decided to illegally partition the country?" The UN did not actually Partition the territory. It established some recommendations for the inhabitance to establish independence. The Arabs inhabitance rejected the entire recommendation. However, the Jewish population accepted the recommendation and began in January 1948 to follow the Steps Preparatory to Independence.

The Jewish Provisional Government of Israel Declared Independence along the same lines as recommended by the UN Resolution 181(II). Aggressor attempts to prevent the Jewish Inhabitance in exercising self-determination altered the initial territorial outline and was expanded as a result of combat losses by invading Arab League Nations.

3. The Palestinians can resist subjugation or passively accept Jewish rule and oppression as second-class citizens in parts of the land deemed Israel or third-class citizens deemed occupied territories. What would you do Rocco, bend over and take it or resist?

(COMMENT)

The first confrontation was in April 1920, in Jerusalem which was under the Occupied Enemy Territory Administration (OETA). The Arab Community was incited to violence by the Hajj Amin al-Husayni, who was delivering inflammatory speeches to crowds of Arabs.

Actually, it was the Arab Community that demanded that the Arabs have a superior status to the Jewish Community, and would not accept equal billing with the Jewish Community. Not being given a position of superiority, they elected to pursue violence as a policy of confrontation.

From this first confrontation, right through the Civil War, there was no such thing as Jewish Rule. The Jewish component of the citizenry did not implement rule until 15 May 1948.

Most Respectfully,
R

 

[RoccoR]

Hossfly, et al,

This is a great observation.

RoccoR do you find it as amusing as I do how this Robot keeps on saying the same thing about these so-called "Native?"

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This concept and terminology is actually amplified by A/RES/15/1514 (XV) (Declaration on the Granting of Independence to Colonial Countries and Peoples) which is not even applicable to the situation. The Mandate System, a product of all the members to the League of Nations, was not the same as colonial expansion; the British did not expand the Empire as the Mandatory.

Just discount anything that remotely sound binding on the basis of being "native." The International Covenant on Civil and Political Rights (ICCPR), the International Covenant on Economic Social and Cultural Rights (CESCR), the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR), or the Declaration on Granting Independence to Colonial Countries (GICC), do not even address "native" status. Even the Declaration on the Rights of Indigenous Peoples (DRIP) does not address "native" status.
http://www.un.org/esa/socdev/unpfii/documents/DRIPS_en.pdf

Worth Noting:

• Neither the GICC or the DRIP are binding Conventions with the force of law.
• And none of these documents even contain the word "native."
• While it is generally understood that "indigenous peoples" ("A") are equal to all other peoples ("B"), in no case do "indigenous people" ("A") have right that exceed those of other peoples ("B"). ...
IF "A" = "B" THEN it is also true that "B" = "A"... It is philosophically a "Commutative Property" in Logic.
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Most Respectfully,
R

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[P F Tinmore]

people granted Citizenship under the 1925 Citizenship Orders

Is that the one imposed on Palestine at the point of a gun by foreigners?

 

[P F Tinmore]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

Excellent observation.

This is the first time I have seen a battle between a colonial power and the natives called a civil war.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How is it that the "UN decided to illegally partition the country?" The UN did not actually Partition the territory.

Bravo, Rocco, that is a point I have been trying to make for years.


The next question has to be: how did Israel acquire Palestinian territory?

 

[Hossfly]

How is it that the "UN decided to illegally partition the country?" The UN did not actually Partition the territory.

Bravo, Rocco, that is a point I have been trying to make for years.


The next question has to be: how did Israel acquire Palestinian territory?

Answer: They won it in a card game from a Navajo Indian.

 

[Shusha]

This is the first time I have seen a battle between a colonial power and the natives called a civil war.

Probably because this is the first time that an indigenous population is considered, by some, to be a "colonial power".

 

[Phoenall]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

2. Depravity was exhibited by the European invader when they attacked, murdered, raped and evicted the native Muslims and Christians living in Palestine, long before the UN decided to illegally partition the country giving 55% of the land to 30% of of the population and contemplated leaving, in the Jewish partition, 400,000 Muslims and Christians forever to be ruled by Jews, numbering about the same at the time, in dhimmi style fashion never to achieve self-determination.

3. The Palestinians can resist subjugation or passively accept Jewish rule and oppression as second-class citizens in parts of the land deemed Israel or third-class citizens deemed occupied territories. What would you do Rocco, bend over and take it or resist?

Under international law they were citizens of palestine, or are you denying the Jews their rights

Payback is a bitch, and a few Jews did this as an example of what the arab's had been doing to them for 1400 years. Again you deny the Jews their rights under international law.

Obey international law that I forced on the population in the first place. Look it up as tinny posted it only last week, he posted that the arab muslims forced the LoN to add to the mandate that no Jew would be allowed to live in trans Jordan and no arabwould be allowed to live in the Jewish national home

 

[Phoenall]

MJ's propaganda, now the facts:


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How can they be facts when they are provided by anti semitic stooges

And do your math and see that this page does not match with the other links you give in regards to actual numbers

Shot yourself in the foot again freddy

 

[Phoenall]

people granted Citizenship under the 1925 Citizenship Orders

Is that the one imposed on Palestine at the point of a gun by foreigners?

NO as they could ignore it and become stateless with no fall back on the countries welfare. So no gun at anyones head unless you have a link from a reliable unbiased source to prove your claim.

By the way if the gun was held to the arab head it was also held to the Jew head, so why no mention of the Jews in your rant ?

 

[Phoenall]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

Excellent observation.

This is the first time I have seen a battle between a colonial power and the natives called a civil war.

Denying the existence of JEWS in palestine again prior to the invention of Zionism. It wont work as you will be called out on it every time

 

[Phoenall]

How is it that the "UN decided to illegally partition the country?" The UN did not actually Partition the territory.

Bravo, Rocco, that is a point I have been trying to make for years.


The next question has to be: how did Israel acquire Palestinian territory?

Under International laws and the UN charter as you have been told thousands of times, and had the relevant links provided

 

[P F Tinmore]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

Excellent observation.

This is the first time I have seen a battle between a colonial power and the natives called a civil war.

Denying the existence of JEWS in palestine again prior to the invention of Zionism. It wont work as you will be called out on it every time

I have never denied the existence of the native Jews.

 

[P F Tinmore]

How is it that the "UN decided to illegally partition the country?" The UN did not actually Partition the territory.

Bravo, Rocco, that is a point I have been trying to make for years.


The next question has to be: how did Israel acquire Palestinian territory?

Under International laws and the UN charter as you have been told thousands of times, and had the relevant links provided

Not true.

Passage and link?

 

[Phoenall]

1. A civil war is a war between citizens/inhabitants of a particular place. The Jews were people from Europe attempting (and succeeded) to conquer a native people in a land in the Middle East.

Excellent observation.

This is the first time I have seen a battle between a colonial power and the natives called a civil war.

Denying the existence of JEWS in palestine again prior to the invention of Zionism. It wont work as you will be called out on it every time

I have never denied the existence of the native Jews.

LIAR as you do it all the time, the problem is you dont know you are doing it as it is part of your brainwashing. All the Jews in Israel are now natives under international laws and you try to deny them these rights. How can an arab muslim that arrives on the morning be classed as a palestinian by lunch time and be able to claim right of return to a non existent home they have never seen. That is how you differ i your views on Jews and arab's