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RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
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PREFACE: Annecdotial Trickery

How many Palestinians did not live in peace with their neighbors when they returned home?
(COMMENT)

I do not know, but the Hostile Arab Palestinians (HoAP) have engaged in the pattern of criminal behaviors from the very beginning (1968).

Palestine Liberation Organization (PLO){Chair Person is Mahmoud Abbas} Words of Peace:
Palestine Liberation Organization said:
Article 7: ... He must be prepared for the armed struggle and ready to sacrifice his wealth and his life in order to win back his homeland and bring about its liberation.
Article 9: Armed struggle is the only way to liberate Palestine.
Article 10: Commando action constitutes the nucleus of the Palestinian popular liberation war.
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20 questions: A Palestinian Asks an Israeli

 
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Noam Chomsky - Why Does the U.S. Support Israel?

 

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RE: Palestinian Talks, lectures, & interviews.
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PREFACE: Thirty years ago, I was outstandingly opposed to the interpretation of historical events and political reasoning of Dr Noam Chomsky, PhD. Today, not so much. I still disagree with his interpretation, or should I say → his characterization, of how the world powers operated since Alexander the Great. Dr Chomsky tends to make colonialism and settler utilization by era/period world powers as rather evil. Whereas I tend to think
(independently) that World Powers evolve; political reasoning evolves and regional area management by the powers that be → evolves.

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The proper operation and functioning of a world power evolve over time. And the pitfall that people like Dr Chomsky
(and a couple in this discussion group) trip over is that the use of today's philosophies in diplomacy and political relationships cannot be applied to 18th, 19th and 20th Century world powers, any more than they could be applied to the Kingdom of Antigonus II Gonatas (the hegemony over Greece) or the reign of Romulus ROMVLVS REX (first King of Rome). And how different would the development of Europe and the Mediterranean (including that of Palestine) be if Gaius Julius Caesar had not extended imperial power in the name of the Senate and the People of Rome? (RHETORICAL)

It is easy for us to look back and try to apply contemporary leanings to past leaderships and criticize them for their faults. But in their time, they did what was expected (probability of action) of them given the philosophies of the day. How many times, historically, had the overall Region of Palestine changed hands in the political control of the region? (RHETORICAL) And out of those all so many changes, how many times did the indigenous population actually inherent control? (RHETORICAL) In the last thousand years, how many times had the indigenous population hold the sovereignty of the region? (RHETORICAL) These are just some of the philosophical considerations that must be made and accounted for, before rendering judgment. Even when, in 1776, the US declared its independence, it was considered a treasonist act by the colonial parent - NOT - the Right of Self-Determination. It is simply foolish to try and retroactively apply contemporary political theory to the decisions of the historical powers in the evolution of the people and government.

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And out of those all so many changes, how many times did the indigenous population actually inherent control?
And those indigenous stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities, towns, and villages. They are the owners of the land.
 

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And out of those all so many changes, how many times did the indigenous population actually inherent control?
And those indigenous stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities, towns, and villages. They are the owners of the land.

Apparently, this narrative does not suffice the claim for an Arab sovereignty in this land.

The same revision of history can be used to call the average US citizen in Milwaukee -
"those indigenous who put down roots and built the cities",
and yet we both clearly understand this is absurd.

Fact is - these people can barely even pronounce the name of the place,
and have managed to build nothing but one town in this land,
the rest is ancient cities they've settled, the names of which,
they mostly do not actually understand.

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And out of those all so many changes, how many times did the indigenous population actually inherent control?
And those indigenous stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities, towns, and villages. They are the owners of the land.
Occupation doesn't mean ownership.
 

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And out of those all so many changes, how many times did the indigenous population actually inherent control?
And those indigenous stayed and put down roots. They are the ones who built the cities, towns, and villages. They are the owners of the land.
Holy duck Batman ! Why did you so blatantly duck his question ?
 

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