Palestinian Politics: Representation and Accountability with Ms. Noura Erakat

[P F Tinmore]

P F Tinmore, et al,

You can wordsmith this anyway you want and quibble over the context of "philosophy" versus a "legal position." But it amounts to the same outcome.

teddyearp, P F Tinmore, et al,

The process is not designed to fail. It is the Palestinians that demand it fails.


(COMMENT)

One only needs to look at the philosophy behind the Palestinians.

• "Initiatives, and so-called peaceful solutions and international conferences, are in contradiction to the principles of the Islamic Resistance Movement."
• "Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."
• " The partition of Palestine in 1947, and the establishment of the state of Israel are entirely illegal, regardless of the passage of time, because they were contrary to the will of the Palestinian people and its natural right in their homeland, and were inconsistent with the principles embodied in the Charter of the United Nations, particularly the right to self-determination."
• "The Balfour Declaration, the Palestine Mandate, and everything that has been based on them, are deemed null and void. Claims of historical or religious ties of Jews with Palestine are incompatible with the facts of history and the conception of what constitutes statehood. Judaism, being a religion, is not an independent nationality. Nor do Jews constitute a single nation with an identity of their own; they are citizens of the states to which they belong."

The alternative the Palestinians have chosen is the plan called "Palestine 194;" where the Palestinians hope to become the 194th member of the United Nations. So far, it sounds like a huge demonstration (million man march type).

Most Respectfully,
R

That is not a philosophy. That is their legal position. All historical facts show that they are correct.

(COMMENT)

All States shall comply in good faith with their obligations under the generally recognized principles and rules of international law with respect to the maintenance of international peace and security, and shall endeavour to make the United Nations security system based on the Charter more effective.

The principle that States shall settle their international disputes by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered

• Every State shall settle its international disputes with other States by peaceful means in such a manner that international peace and security and justice are not endangered.
  
• States shall accordingly seek early and just settlement of their international disputes by negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, judicial settlement, resort to regional agencies or arrangements or other peaceful means of their choice. In seeking such a settlement the parties shall agree upon such peaceful means as may be appropriate to the circumstances and nature of the dispute.

SOURCE: A/RES/25/2625

There is no question that the Palestinians come to the table with (as you call it) "their legal position" - absent any "good faith" and holding that the "process" under discussion is a "waste of time and vain endeavors." Entering any negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, or judicial settlement, is bound to fail with such a backbone.

If there is a reason that negotiation, inquiry, mediation, conciliation, arbitration, or judicial settlement talks fail, surely --- this is a major contributor if not the cause of such failures.

The Palestinians, in adhering to the "legal positions" (supra) guarantee failure even before negotiators take their seats.

Most Respectfully,
R

Are you trying to refute Palestine's legal position?

I don't see anything here that does.