Pakistan: US suspends $800m of military aid

[Anachronism]

Pained, sure, no problem. So long as their Loyalty is to the United States, first and foremost, they're definitely all Americans. However, anyone who puts their religion, their family, friends, employer, etc... above the best interests of the United States is most definitely NOT an American in my book and never will be.

 

[CitizenPained]

Nice to know we've had illegitimate government since slavery.

 

[Anachronism]

Nice to know we've had illegitimate government since slavery.

If you think the Civil War was about slavery you're even more naive than I expect.

 

[Conservative]

BBC News - Pakistan: US suspends $800m of military aid

The US says it is withholding some $800m in military aid to Pakistan.

White House Chief of Staff Bill Daley told ABC television that Pakistan had "taken some steps that have given us reason to pause on some of the aid".

He said the US raid that killed Osama Bin Laden in May had affected ties but he insisted the relationship "must be made to work over time".

The $800m (£500m) equates to about a third of the annual US security aid to Pakistan, US officials say.

He added: "It's a complicated relationship in a very difficult, complicated part of the world. Obviously, there's still lot of pain that the political system in Pakistan is feeling by virtue of the raid that we did to get Osama Bin Laden, something that the president felt strongly about and we have no regrets over.

US drone attacks have caused anger among many in Pakistan
"Until we get through these difficulties, we will hold back some of the money that the American taxpayers have committed to give them."

Good.

why didn't they cut all 2 billion?

this.

 

[CitizenPained]

Nice to know we've had illegitimate government since slavery.

If you think the Civil War was about slavery you're even more naive than I expect.

It's called a point of reference, eg, indicating a point on a historical timeline.

 

[Anachronism]

It's called a point of reference, eg, indicating a point on a historical timeline.

Personally, I'd like to go back to he 12th to 13th Centuries in Norman controlled lands, but somehow I don't foresee that happening.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Suspend it all and get the Hell out of both Afghanistan & Pakistan. Pakistan has always run a double-game on us. So it's all over. Time to wrap it up. We got those responsible for 911 so now it's time to come home. Most Americans i talk to,have no appetite for more Nation-Building and Fighting a Drug War over there. The objectives have been met. This Mission is now over. Bring the kids home.

 

[Samson]

It's called a point of reference, eg, indicating a point on a historical timeline.

Personally, I'd like to go back to he 12th to 13th Centuries in Norman controlled lands, but somehow I don't foresee that happening.

Well, you wouldn't need health or dental insurance.

 

[High_Gravity]

Ever since the US pressured Pakistan to let Bhutto back into Pakistan and the political system, Pakistan is in chaos.
US knew, that with Musharraf there is no political authority in Pakistan to allow the USA to fly drone and spy missions into Pakistan without consequences.

The civilian death toll in Pakistan caused by the conflict of NATO in Afghanistan has reached 36.000 civilians.
Fatalities in Terrorist Violence in Pakistan 2003-2011

Pakistan is a poor country, was hit by major natural disasters in the last decade and needs every money it can get. Nevertheless, no 800 Million $, not even 800 Billion $ is worth getting humiliated and pushed around.

You are an idiot, Pakistan wanted the money the US is the one who refused to give it you moron.

 

[High_Gravity]

Suspend it all and get the Hell out of both Afghanistan & Pakistan. Pakistan has always run a double-game on us. So it's all over. Time to wrap it up. We got those responsible for 911 so now it's time to come home. Most Americans i talk to,have no appetite for more Nation-Building and Fighting a Drug War over there. The objectives have been met. This Mission is now over. Bring the kids home.

Damn straight, its time to wrap it up and start wiping down the table over there.

 

[Samson]

Hate to break it to you, but everyone spies. Hell, we were caught spying in DENMARK.

They don't "steal" our technology. And we wouldn't support Israel if it weren't politically expedient. 2 per cent of America's population does not control our foreign policy.

If you want to back up your claims from reputable sources, you're more than welcome to.

If Israel wasn't in the ME, we'd have an increased presence. Israel turned its back on its socialist roots under US pressure, and now we're ideological bedmates. Awkward ones at first, but any military analyst or contractor could tell you the wealth of info that Israelis share. Medical, satellite, weapons, anti-missile, bla bla bla.

Not to mention the intelligence.

I'm still wondering what vital intelligence or information we've received, or will receive from Israelis?



Apparently, backing up YOUR claims from reputable sources isn't necessary.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I'm all for ending all Aid to Pakistan. The only problem i have with this is that they could be setting the stage for all-out War with Pakistan. This could be the first stage of a coming War. God i hope not but it is possible. Just cut the Aid with Pakistan and get the Hell out of Afghanistan. Nothing more to be gained over there. We got the idiots responsible for 911. No more of our kids need to die in those Hell-Holes. Time to welcome them Home.

 

[High_Gravity]

Hate to break it to you, but everyone spies. Hell, we were caught spying in DENMARK.

They don't "steal" our technology. And we wouldn't support Israel if it weren't politically expedient. 2 per cent of America's population does not control our foreign policy.

If you want to back up your claims from reputable sources, you're more than welcome to.

If Israel wasn't in the ME, we'd have an increased presence. Israel turned its back on its socialist roots under US pressure, and now we're ideological bedmates. Awkward ones at first, but any military analyst or contractor could tell you the wealth of info that Israelis share. Medical, satellite, weapons, anti-missile, bla bla bla.

Not to mention the intelligence.

I'm still wondering what vital intelligence or information we've received, or will receive from Israelis?



Apparently, backing up YOUR claims from reputable sources isn't necessary.

The CIA and Mossad work closely together in the Middle East but there isnt anyway to know for sure what information has been exchanged, especially since most of it is classified.

 

[High_Gravity]

I'm all for ending all Aid to Pakistan. The only problem i have with this is that they could be setting the stage for all-out War with Pakistan. This could be the first stage of a coming War. God i hope not but it is possible. Just cut the Aid with Pakistan and get the Hell out of Afghanistan. Nothing more to be gained over there. We got the idiots responsible for 911. No more of our kids need to die in those Hell-Holes. Time to welcome them Home.

Going to war with Pakistan would accomplish nothing, all that would do is destroy Pakistans Military and turn it into even more a shithole with even less security that they have now, like Iraq in 2003. Time to close down shop, even though that will take some time. Its way easier to put US Troops into a country than it is to get them home.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

I'm all for ending all Aid to Pakistan. The only problem i have with this is that they could be setting the stage for all-out War with Pakistan. This could be the first stage of a coming War. God i hope not but it is possible. Just cut the Aid with Pakistan and get the Hell out of Afghanistan. Nothing more to be gained over there. We got the idiots responsible for 911. No more of our kids need to die in those Hell-Holes. Time to welcome them Home.

Going to war with Pakistan would accomplish nothing, all that would do is destroy Pakistans Military and turn it into even more a shithole with even less security that they have now, like Iraq in 2003. Time to close down shop, even though that will take some time. Its way easier to put US Troops into a country than it is to get them home.

I agree. Well said. I hope they're not setting the stage for War with Pakistan. But it could be headed that way. Nothing would surprise me.

 

[High_Gravity]

I'm all for ending all Aid to Pakistan. The only problem i have with this is that they could be setting the stage for all-out War with Pakistan. This could be the first stage of a coming War. God i hope not but it is possible. Just cut the Aid with Pakistan and get the Hell out of Afghanistan. Nothing more to be gained over there. We got the idiots responsible for 911. No more of our kids need to die in those Hell-Holes. Time to welcome them Home.

Going to war with Pakistan would accomplish nothing, all that would do is destroy Pakistans Military and turn it into even more a shithole with even less security that they have now, like Iraq in 2003. Time to close down shop, even though that will take some time. Its way easier to put US Troops into a country than it is to get them home.

I agree. Well said. I hope they're not setting the stage for War with Pakistan. But it could be headed that way. Nothing would surprise me.

Pakistan is a dirt poor country, shitty terrain, no oil, not much of anything so I don't see the US invading it, us going in there would make the situation 100 times worse.

 

[Samson]

Going to war with Pakistan would accomplish nothing, all that would do is destroy Pakistans Military and turn it into even more a shithole with even less security that they have now, like Iraq in 2003. Time to close down shop, even though that will take some time. Its way easier to put US Troops into a country than it is to get them home.

I agree. Well said. I hope they're not setting the stage for War with Pakistan. But it could be headed that way. Nothing would surprise me.

Pakistan is a dirt poor country, shitty terrain, no oil, not much of anything so I don't see the US invading it, us going in there would make the situation 100 times worse.

But, how would we get slurpees and cheap dried meat products without Pakistanis?

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Going to war with Pakistan would accomplish nothing, all that would do is destroy Pakistans Military and turn it into even more a shithole with even less security that they have now, like Iraq in 2003. Time to close down shop, even though that will take some time. Its way easier to put US Troops into a country than it is to get them home.

I agree. Well said. I hope they're not setting the stage for War with Pakistan. But it could be headed that way. Nothing would surprise me.

Pakistan is a dirt poor country, shitty terrain, no oil, not much of anything so I don't see the US invading it, us going in there would make the situation 100 times worse.

Yea you nailed it with your Oil point. No Oil usually means no War. There is lots of Oil & Gas in Afghanistan though. So we're not leaving there entirely,anytime soon. But we can bring most of our kids home from there. We will always have Military Bases in places like Afghanistan & Iraq. I'm not naive about that,i understand the Oil & Gas must flow. But we can dramatically scale back our presence there. That time has come.

 

[ekrem]

US tells Musharraf 'bring Benazir Bhutto back' - Telegraph

The US kick-started the process to oust the Musharaf Government, which was Pakistan's only somewhat stable regime.
It was clear from the beginning that Ms. Bhutto would win the elections once she is allowed to return to Pakistan. No woman is able to rule a country like Pakistan.
Now she's dead, and the only man who was able to stabilize Pakistan has been ousted and now we've a Pakistan where you don't who really rules it: The Intelligence community, the weak Government or extra-constitutional forces.

Bet on the wrong horse.

 

[ekrem]

You are an idiot, Pakistan wanted the money the US is the one who refused to give it you moron.

******, when Musharraf was there, no US soldier stepped a foot into Pakistan.
You have to see it all in context.

"If they come without our permission, that's against the sovereignty of Pakistan. I challenge anybody coming into our mountains," he said

Report: Musharraf Warns U.S. Not to 'Invade' Pakistan to Hunt Al Qaeda - International News | News of the World | Middle East News | Europe News - FOXNews.com


So the USA tried and succeeded to bring estrogen(Bhutto) to the Head of Pakistani Government.