PA House Introduces a Resolution: The Election Process Shall Be Declared Improper.

[Norman]

The legislature can make a finding that fraud occurred, and pass a resolution in favor of redressing the fraud that did occur.

They can invalidate their election.

Which mean they don't send any electors. That isn't a path to victory for Trump. Since Biden can lose PA, MI, WI, AZ and GA, and still win.

You are absolutely clueless. The winner is not determined by who gets most votes but who gets to 270.

A candidate must receive an absolute majority of electoral votes (currently 270) to win the presidency or the vice presidency. If no candidate receives a majority in the election for president or vice president, that election is determined via a contingency procedure established by the 12th Amendment. In such a situation, the House chooses one of the top three presidential electoral vote-winners as the president, while the Senate chooses one of the top two vice presidential electoral vote-winners as vice president.

Contingent election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

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It does not make a difference for Trump whether it's thrown out or whether he gets the votes.

 

[justinacolmena]

They can invalidate their election.

Which mean they don't send any electors

The Electoral College cannot meet in good faith to certify a national election without the representation of all the states.

That isn't a path to victory for Trump. Since Biden can lose PA, MI, WI, AZ and GA, and still win.

More lawsuits are coming, on those and other states.

The Electors shall meet in their respective states and vote by ballot for President and Vice-President, one of whom, at least, shall not be an inhabitant of the same state with themselves; they shall name in their ballots the person voted for as President, and in distinct ballots the person voted for as Vice-President, and they shall make distinct lists of all persons voted for as President, and of all persons voted for as Vice-President, and of the number of votes for each, which lists they shall sign and certify, and transmit sealed to the seat of the government of the United States, directed to the President of the Senate;-The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall then be counted;

This isn't possible if some of the votes are missing.

And if the House of Representatives shall not choose a President whenever the right of choice shall devolve upon them, before the fourth day of March next following, then the Vice-President shall act as President, as in the case of the death or other constitutional disability of the President-

Which means Mike Pence will very likely be our next President, notwithstanding the 20th Amendment.

and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.

 

[meaner gene]

You are absolutely clueless. The winner is not determined by who gets most votes but who gets to 270.

A candidate must receive an absolute majority of electoral votes (currently 270) to win the presidency or the vice presidency.

It does not make a difference for Trump whether it's thrown out or whether he gets the votes.

Since you're clueless, let me cite an example of what I explained.

1864 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because eleven Southern states had declared secession from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America, only twenty-five states participated in the election.

The states in rebellion did not participate in the election of 1864.

The 17 electoral votes from Tennessee and Louisiana were rejected. Had they not been rejected, Lincoln would have received 229 electoral votes out of a total of 250, well in excess of the 126 required to win.

 

[Norman]

You are absolutely clueless. The winner is not determined by who gets most votes but who gets to 270.

A candidate must receive an absolute majority of electoral votes (currently 270) to win the presidency or the vice presidency.

It does not make a difference for Trump whether it's thrown out or whether he gets the votes.

Since you're clueless, let me cite an example of what I explained.

1864 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because eleven Southern states had declared secession from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America, only twenty-five states participated in the election.

The states in rebellion did not participate in the election of 1864.

The 17 electoral votes from Tennessee and Louisiana were rejected. Had they not been rejected, Lincoln would have received 229 electoral votes out of a total of 250, well in excess of the 126 required to win.

So you are saying PA did not participate in the election?

Go with that...

 

[L.K.Eder]

What you stated is as good for Trump as winning PA.

Then Georgia and Arizona or Michigan...

Does not sound very honest to not realize that. It's like asking "what's the point for Trump to win this state?" Duh... They are also calling for other states to do the same.

What you didn't grasp is that PA would lose it's 20 electors, they would not go to Trump. And Biden could therefore lose up to 73 total electors, and still win.
PA, WI, MI, Ga and AZ only add up to 67

Biden has to get to 270...

this is vegetable-like "reasoning". you should lead the next kraken release

You are absolutely clueless. The winner is not determined by who gets most votes but who gets to 270.

A candidate must receive an absolute majority of electoral votes (currently 270) to win the presidency or the vice presidency.

It does not make a difference for Trump whether it's thrown out or whether he gets the votes.

Since you're clueless, let me cite an example of what I explained.

1864 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because eleven Southern states had declared secession from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America, only twenty-five states participated in the election.

The states in rebellion did not participate in the election of 1864.

The 17 electoral votes from Tennessee and Louisiana were rejected. Had they not been rejected, Lincoln would have received 229 electoral votes out of a total of 250, well in excess of the 126 required to win.

So you are saying PA did not participate in the election?

Go with that...

nah. reality goes with biden winning Pennsylvania. this resolution will go nowhere interesting. it is not even introduced yet. they are begging for moar co-sponsors. and you victims get to lose again, and again, and again.

 

[meaner gene]

Since you're clueless, let me cite an example of what I explained.

1864 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because eleven Southern states had declared secession from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America, only twenty-five states participated in the election.

The states in rebellion did not participate in the election of 1864.

a total of 250,

126 required to win.

So you are saying PA did not participate in the election?

Go with that...

PA can invalidate it's participation in the election by invalidating it's EC vote due to fraud.

It would be just like 1864 where the election continues as if they didn't exist, and the needed EC count to win, being recalculated without them.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

What you didn't grasp is that PA would lose it's 20 electors, they would not go to Trump. And Biden could therefore lose up to 73 total electors, and still win.
PA, WI, MI, Ga and AZ only add up to 67

Biden has to get to 270...

Read the 12th amendment. Biden has to get a majority of the appointed electors. If PA doesn't appoint its 20 electors, the number of appointed electors drops from 538 to 512, and the number needed to win drops from 270 to 260.

Is 286 more than 260?

 

[meaner gene]

nah. reality goes with biden winning Pennsylvania. this resolution will go nowhere interesting. it is not even introduced yet. they are begging for moar co-sponsors. and you victims get to lose again, and again, and again.

I'm pointing out that even if PA commits political suicide and opts out of the presidential election, which is the right of any state to chose not to participate.

It wouldn't do Trump any good if PA disqualifies it's election, or even if WI, MI, AZ, GA and PA all disqualified their elections. The election would continue without them, as if they had ceded from the union. And the winner chosen by getting the majority of electors appointed by the remaining states.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

So you are saying PA did not participate in the election?

Damn you are dumb. It is painful watching him try to explain it to you like you are 5 years old, yet you still cant puzzle it out. If PAs electoral votes are removed, Biden wins. If they are reversed, Biden wins. So he is wasting his time on this special ed anyway.

 

[Norman]

Since you're clueless, let me cite an example of what I explained.

1864 United States presidential election - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

Because eleven Southern states had declared secession from the Union and formed the Confederate States of America, only twenty-five states participated in the election.

The states in rebellion did not participate in the election of 1864.

a total of 250,

126 required to win.

So you are saying PA did not participate in the election?

Go with that...

PA can invalidate it's participation in the election by invalidating it's EC vote due to fraud.

It would be just like 1864 where the election continues as if they didn't exist, and the needed EC count to win, being recalculated without them.

That's not what the government states.

What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 electoral votes?
If no candidate receives a majority of electoral votes, the Presidential election leaves the Electoral College process and moves to Congress.

The House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most electoral votes. Each State delegation has one vote and it is up to the individual States to determine how to vote. (Since the District of Columbia is not a State, it has no State delegation in the House and cannot vote). A candidate must receive at least 26 votes (a majority of the States) to be elected.

The Senate elects the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most electoral votes. Each Senator casts one vote for Vice President. (Since the District of Columbia is has no Senators and is not represented in the vote). A candidate must receive at least 51 votes (a majority of Senators) to be elected.

If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.

Frequently Asked Questions

Click the links below for answers to these frequently asked questions. Who verifies if a candidate is qualified to run for President? What happens if the President-elect fails to qualify before inauguration? What happens if a candidate with electoral votes dies or becomes incapacitated after the...

www.archives.gov

 

[meaner gene]

Read the 12th amendment. Biden has to get a majority of the appointed electors. If PA doesn't appoint its 20 electors, the number of appointed electors drops from 538 to 512, and the number needed to win drops from 270 to 260.

Is 286 more than 260?

Yes it is. And even if the same happened (which it won't) in GA, WI, MI and AZ, then the question would be is 239 more than 236

 

[L.K.Eder]

nah. reality goes with biden winning Pennsylvania. this resolution will go nowhere interesting. it is not even introduced yet. they are begging for moar co-sponsors. and you victims get to lose again, and again, and again.

I'm pointing out that even if PA commits political suicide and opts out of the presidential election, which is the right of any state to chose not to participate.

It wouldn't do Trump any good if PA disqualifies it's election, or even if WI, MI, AZ, GA and PA all disqualified their elections. The election would continue without them, as if they had ceded from the union. And the winner chosen by getting the majority of electors appointed by the remaining states.

i completely understand your point. it is, however, wasted on trumptards. even entertaining the thought that this desperate con can progress further enables these cvnts.

 

[eddiew37]

Thank you TRUMP
President-elect Joe Biden’s lead over Donald Trump in Wisconsin extended on Friday as Milwaukee finished their recount.

The Trump campaign had to pay $3 million for the recount in Wisconsin.

“Milwaukee County concludes its recount of the presidential election — one of two counties where Trump sought a recount in Wisconsin. The results: Biden’s lead, currently at about 20,000 statewide, grew by 132 votes,” Rosalind Helderman of The Washington Post reported Friday.

Edward-Isaac Dovere of The Atlantic did a quick, back-of-the-envelop economic analysis.


“With the $3 million the Trump campaign spent on recounts split between two counties, this would amount to the Trump campaign spending $11,363 per vote *added* to Biden,” Dovere wrote.





Edward-Isaac Dovere

@IsaacDovere
With the $3 million the Trump campaign spent on recounts split between two counties, this would amount to the Trump campaign spending $11,363 per vote *added* to Biden

Rosalind Helderman

@PostRoz
Milwaukee County concludes its recount of the presidential election -- one of two counties where Trump sought a recount in Wisconsin. The results: Biden's lead, currently at about 20,000 statewide, grew by 132 votes.

 

[HereWeGoAgain]

Trying to overturn the sovereign will of the people and steal an election

Lets see all the facts and not dismiss them out of hand just because "your team won". The Houston Astros "won" the 2017 World Series too.

I hate you for saying that but at least I can admit it's true.

 

[meaner gene]

That's not what the government states.

What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 electoral votes?
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Frequently Asked Questions

Click the links below for answers to these frequently asked questions. Who verifies if a candidate is qualified to run for President? What happens if the President-elect fails to qualify before inauguration? What happens if a candidate with electoral votes dies or becomes incapacitated after the...

www.archives.gov

Look special-Ed. Your citation is based on the presumption that every eligible state and territory participates. If as in the civil war a state or states chose not to participate, the election continues as if they didn't exist. Their electoral votes are not part of those appointed, the requirement drops below 270 by half of the of EC votes lost.

 

[Dr Grump]

That's not what the government states.

What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 electoral votes?
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Frequently Asked Questions

Click the links below for answers to these frequently asked questions. Who verifies if a candidate is qualified to run for President? What happens if the President-elect fails to qualify before inauguration? What happens if a candidate with electoral votes dies or becomes incapacitated after the...

www.archives.gov

Look special-Ed. Your citation is based on the presumption that every eligible state and territory participates. If as in the civil war a state or states chose not to participate, the election continues as if they didn't exist. Their electoral votes are not part of those appointed, the requirement drops below 270 by half of the of EC votes lost.

Does he not realise that nobody in this election can get 270 if those states ec votes are rejected not even the Orange Buffoon. No wonder I believe you should have to prove your IQ to be eligible to vote.

 

[meaner gene]

Does he not realise that nobody in this election can get 270 if those states ec votes are rejected not even the Orange Buffoon. No wonder I believe you should have to prove your IQ to be eligible to vote.

That's in a case of EC votes being rejected vs EC votes being withdrawn. If a state chooses not to appoint electors, which is within a states rights. The electors they chose not to appoint, aren't used to calculate the number needed for a majority.

A different scenario is where they appointed the electors, and congress in accordance with 3 USC 15 throws out their appointed electors.

That's what happened in 1864, where Abraham Lincoln dropped from 239 to 212 EC votes.

The number needed to win stayed at 126

 

[Norman]

Does he not realise that nobody in this election can get 270 if those states ec votes are rejected not even the Orange Buffoon. No wonder I believe you should have to prove your IQ to be eligible to vote.

That's in a case of EC votes being rejected vs EC votes being withdrawn. If a state chooses not to appoint electors, which is within a states rights. But the electors they chose not to appoint, aren't used to determine the majority.

A different scenario is where they appointed the electors, and congress in accordance with 3 USC 15 throws out their appointed electors.

That's what happened in 1864, where Abraham Lincoln dropped from 239 to 212 EC votes.

The number needed to win stayed at 126

You have zero links to back this up.

Meanwhile the official sources say 270 are needed.

The link you posted is inapplicable because as was already stated, PA is participating in the election.

 

[Fort Fun Indiana]

You have zero links to back this up.

...besides the ones he has spoonfed to you.

Good god man. You are freakish.

 

[Norman]

You have zero links to back this up.

...besides the ones he has spoonfed to you.

Good god man. You are freakish.

That link does not say what he claims.