Overpaid CEOs and Greedy Capitalists.. oh my!

[AmazonTania]

Bullshit. I dare you to prove your assertions. Union Activity in the private sector declined dramatically through the 80's, 90's, and 00's from their heyday in the 50's, 60's and 70's.

You do realize that America started running Trade Deficits in 1975 and effectively started running a negative Balance of Payments account since the early 1970's, correct?

Of course, it's just easier to say that all of your problems started during the decade of the term your most hated President was in office. Sure. Everything is always that simple.

 

[Rshermr]

I wrote the title of this thread, I am the author of the thread, dipshit.

Economies fail because of dipshit idiots like you, who don't have a ******* clue what they are talking about, trying to micromanage something they totally don't understand. And NO, CEOs do not become CEOs because of their social position.

I know you don't care what I asked you, and you don't care that you can't answer me! All that really matters to you is being as antagonistic as you can to anyone conservative, because that's what your Marxist masters tell you must be done. All any of you can manage to do, is post links to Marxist propaganda, flood the boards with failed Marxist ideology, and repeat nonsense that has long been debunked.

You don't have enough sense to come in out of the rain, much less articulate the finer points of free market capitalism. But stupid morons like you, are who the Commies depended on to do their dirty work, because they always have. As soon as you have toppled capitalism, they will put a bullet through your head.

Wow. Look at Boss go. Thinks there are marxists out there. And believes he knows all about economics. Funny, me boy. You live in a fantasy world, of course. There have been no marxists pushing anything for a whole lot of years now. Communism died of its own weaknesses, as anyone with half a brain would have predicted years ago.
Sorry boss, but I have no interest in following any socio-economic theory or any group of well paid entertainers who want my following. I just like the truth. But then, you are a con. You follow your entertainers, spend your time lapping up the drivel put out by hundreds of well paid cons who you follow mindlessly. So much easier than actually studying a subject. You can get your "truth" spoon fed to you by entertainers and paid spokesmen who laugh all the way to the bank at you, as you breathlessly follow their every word. Funny. Kind of sad. But funny none the less.

But, you actually believe what they tell you. That we, the members of the fact based world, who demand that truth be proven with evidence, are your enemy. And you love having an enemy, eh, me boy. Makes you feel good.

So, there you go, my poor con tool. Your methodology is to say that you have the truth, that we are stupid, and you attack and attack and attack. Because attempting rational discussion would be impossible. It would require proof, evidence, that sort of thing. And you prefer to believe what you want to believe, and what your entertainer heroes tell you to believe. Sad, but true.

So, you are totally wasting your time casting insults. I understand you, have seen many, many like you. And you will never, ever actually discuss anything, because you are not capable of doing so. You prefer to live among the bat shit crazy conservative web sites and well paid conservative cable entertainers, who can fill your little empty mind with stuff to believe. Sad.

And you can actually believe that anyone that does not agree with you is a marxist, and is following marxist theory. Which, me poor ignorant tool, no longer exists to any considerable extent. Just another of those spoon fed pieces of info that you CHOOSE to believe.

I am sure you think you are really smart. You say that you understand the "finer points of free market capitalism". You are SOOOO stupid that you do not have a clue. Free markets require, me poor ignorant con, a lack of monopoly power. To you, free markets just require no gov intervention. So, me boy, what you are actually talking about is not free markets, but the libertarian dream. And you are way to stupid to consider that there has never, ever been a working libertarian economic system in any country. Ever. Because they, like communist economies, kill themselves. But then, I am sure that is beyond you. Funny. The expert in free markets. Boss. the econ free market expert. You may want to take a read of Wealth of Nations some day so you get an actual clue of what Smith said were the requirements for a free market. Instead, that is, of listening to your con tools filling your empty little brain with drivel. Much more productive.

Relative to why ceo's become ceo's, I see you think you are a real expert on that subject. Here is the thing, me poor ignorant ceo expert. There is NO SINGLE SET OF REASONS WHY CEO's become ceo's. But with a little more help from ed, perhaps you two can come up with a little fantasy that you can sell to other non thinking cons for their pre teen children. Hell, between the two of you, your combined IQ is probably near 100. And yes, me boy, socio economic position has a LOT to do with why ceo's become ceo's. Far from a requirement. But very, very common. But then, I am far from the expert that you think that you are about the subject.

There is NO SINGLE SET OF REASONS WHY CEO's become ceo's.

Actually, yes there is, and you can refine that down to one reason: CEO's are chosen for a track record of making lots and lots of money through past performance. In general, they have drive, and they're keen on personnel who pull their weight and aim to keep it that way.

Lots and lots of money means lots and lots of high-paying jobs, including those of the most demanding Union workers. Who gets pissed off about money-makers? Chiefly people who are jealous they can't perform their tasks well nor can they inspire others to do likewise, which is why they were not chosen to lead a company into a pattern of success, growth, and prosperity that feeds a lot of mouths.

Right. That is generally true. But the question seems to me to be how they got to that point.
And, by the way, many have LOST lots and lots of money. And many have FIRED many employees, in an effort to decrease costs and increase profits for their stockholders. Again, there is NO SINGLE template. Anyone who believes there is is simply simple minded.

 

[AmazonTania]

Right. That is generally true. But the question seems to me to be how they got to that point.
And, by the way, many have LOST lots and lots of money. And many have FIRED many employees, in an effort to decrease costs and increase profits for their stockholders. Again, there is NO SINGLE template. Anyone who believes there is is simply simple minded.

Then you are obviously not aware of the roles and responsibilities of a CEO.

 

[Rshermr]

Funny stuff there, pinhead. Yes, I am so empty headed and filled with crap from others, I can't do anything but come here and post one 'copy-n-paste' after another from propagandists, and refuse to answer the simplest questions... oh wait... that's what YOU are doing! My bad!

American free market capitalism is responsible for creating more millionaires from poor people, than anything man has ever devised. Nothing else even comes close. You want to get rid of that so we can enjoy the death and destruction of society known in every Socialist "Utopia" ever created. No one can rationalize or reason with you, because you've filled your empty head with propaganda and believe every word of it.

Let the record show, you still have not answered my question about what a CEO does.

It's because you don't have the first clue. You just know they make a lot of money, and being the jealous little self-absorbed asswipe you are, think you are somehow entitled to the fruits of their labor. This stems from you being raised by the Dr. Spock generation, not getting your ass busted when it needed to be, not having to be responsible or do anything for yourself for most of your life, and growing up in a culture where you think the world owes you something, just for us having the pleasure of your wonderful presence.

Now let me give you a few harsh facts of life here... There is no Utopia, we'll never realize wealth equality, there will always be a 1% who control most of the wealth, the question is, will they be free market capitalists who can be taxed, monitored, regulated and scrutinized, or ruling class government agents who are not accountable to anyone. It can be people who know how to use wealth to create jobs, prosperity, and economic growth, or state cronies who have no clue, and don't really care, because their pockets are full!

CEOs are not paid by the taxpayers. Their incomes are paid from profits earned by a corporation. If the capitalists who hire them, want to pay them WHATEVER, it's not any of your goddamn business! The capitalists are not being forced to pay them against their will, they obviously find value in having a well-paid CEO running their corporation, and it's mighty ******* rich for you, a demonstrated abject moron when it comes to what a CEO does, to be interjecting your worthless idiot opinion.

Sorry, did not know you were so interested in what a ceo does. Because, again, it depends on who he is, his style, who his staff is, the size of his organization, and many other things. So, me poor con tool, suggest to me what the ceo is ceo of. What size and what industry and is he running a us company or a multinational corporation and where is his market. Or is that all to complex. Are you still trying to write your little guide for pre pubescent children of cons? Should we fill your little guide with little pictures to keep them interested???
Ceo's do not run companies by themselves, me boy. A lot of their time is spent working with their staff. In large corps, that means other c level folks. You know, the usual. CFO, CTO, and so on. So, he spends a whole lot of his time meeting with those folks. He probably has a COO. He is working with his board of directors. He is working directly, in conjunction with his sales management and large customers. And he is doing a lot of other things. But, me poor ignorant con, there IS NO TEMPLATE. His style may be to delegate much of the work to others, his management team. Or he may prefer to be involved directly.
So, Boss, since you are the expert on this subject, knock yourself out. You will be, as usual, full of shit. And it really makes NO DIFFERENCE what the ceo does. What matters, dipshit, is whether his corp is successful or whether it is not.

And yes, you are a tool. You are totally incapable of independent thought. Funny thing is you think you have something profound to say. That would be a result of being stupid. But not everyone is stupid, me poor con tool. Many out there actually think. Dipshit.

 

[Rshermr]

Right. That is generally true. But the question seems to me to be how they got to that point.
And, by the way, many have LOST lots and lots of money. And many have FIRED many employees, in an effort to decrease costs and increase profits for their stockholders. Again, there is NO SINGLE template. Anyone who believes there is is simply simple minded.

Then you are obviously not aware of the roles and responsibilities of a CEO.

Not true, me dipshit. What is true is that you are to simple minded to understand that there are many, many roles for a ceo. And no one ceo takes on all the responsibilities that another does. Cause, you see, he has staff. Look it up. And he can delegate. Look it up.
Must be crap to be as dumb as you are. My condolences.

 

[Rshermr]

God, I get tired of hearing the "Utopia/wage equality" bullshit.

I don't know ONE person that's calling for that....not one. It's dumb ******* right wing talking point. Which, as usual....is a total lie.

Wanting working people to have a wage where we don't have to choose between subsidizing with tax dollars and letting them starve in the street is NOT ******* "wage equality".

******* idiots.

They can not help themselves. It is, as you said, talking points and they ALWAYS believe talking points. Because it is so simple to understand the world if someone tells you what to think. And that is what they do.
I actually have some troll calling me a communist. Thinks there are communists out there trying to controll our minds. Not sure how you have a discussion when the person is mentally ill. But many of these trolls seem to be just exactly that.

 

[AmazonTania]

Not true, me dipshit. What is true is that you are to simple minded to understand that there are many, many roles for a ceo. And no one ceo takes on all the responsibilities that another does. Cause, you see, he has staff. Look it up. And he can delegate. Look it up.

Yes, the CEO does have staff, but neither of them are responsible for carrying out the responsibilities of CEO

The CEO's staff does not not appoint branch managers. The CEO does.

The CEO staff does not set strategic goals for the company. The CEO does.

The CEO staff does not overseas the yearly budget. The CEO does.

The CEO staff does not act as public relations. The CEO does.

The CEO staff does manages the company's finances or physical resources. The CEO does.

So, thanks for confirming the obvious. You really don't have a clue as to what you are talking about, but you still feel the need to share your financial ignorance with all of us. Thanks for that.

Must be crap to be as dumb as you are. My condolences.

Sorry, but you think a CEO's staff handles public relations and recommends yearly budgets to the Board of Directors. Dumb is not the word to describe you, but I'll give you a pass because it's pretty clear you've only collected a paycheck all your life. So I can see why you would believe a CEO's staff handles all of these responsibilities.

 

[Rshermr]

Amazon, you need to stop. You have NO clue. Not that it really matters, but:

Yes, the CEO does have staff, but neither of them are responsible for carrying out the responsibilities of CEO

Neither of them??? You think there are two? There are many, and yes, they are responsible for carying out many of the ceo's responsibilities. That, you see, is why the ceo hires them. Jesus.

The CEO's staff does not not appoint branch managers. The CEO does.

Maybe if it is a really small corporation. But in general, some one in the staff would be hiring branch managers, ASSUMING the corporation has branches. Simpleton.

The CEO staff does not set strategic goals for the company. The CEO does.

Yup, with the input from his staff, and the approval of his bod. And, me poor simple con, I never suggested that he did not. Simpleton.

The CEO staff does not overseas the yearly budget. The CEO does

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Wow. Not sure what to say to you. That is simply too stupid. The CEO is very involved in setting the budget. It is his overall responsibility. But you may want to look up the term CFO. For it will be he, and his staff, who overseas the yearly and quarterly and monthly budgets. Look up CFO. Simpleton.

The CEO staff does not act as public relations. The CEO does.

Look up Marketing Department. Google it. You will see that they handle PR, and the ceo may be involved depending on importance. JESUS you are a simpleton. Hell, within the marketing dept, or separately, any larger corporation will have a PUBLIC RELATIONS DEPARTMENT. Do you know how to use google?

The CEO staff does manages the company's finances or physical resources. The CEO does.

Well, the ceo staff either does or does not??? I assume you are saying the staff does not. Sorry. Look up COO. Then look up CFO again. And, maybe take your head out of your ass.

So then, Amazon makes this profound statement:

Sorry, but you think a CEO's staff handles public relations and recommends yearly budgets to the Board of Directors. Dumb is not the word to describe you, but I'll give you a pass because it's pretty clear you've only collected a paycheck all your life. So I can see why you would believe a CEO's staff handles all of these responsibilities.

Now, amazon, try to pay attention. The ceo has a PR dept, and they do what they are hired to do. That would be (now pay attention) HANDLE PUBLIC RELATIONS, FOR THE VERY GUY THAT HIRED THEM FOR THAT PURPOSE, THE CEO. Jesus, you are ignorant.
And yes indeed, as I said, the ceo does recommend the budget to the bod. Never said he did not. So, if you are saying I did say that, then you would be lying.
So, you must be a major ceo yourself. Care to try to explain where you got the drivel you posted. Jesus.

So, in general, everything you just said is pretty much completely wrong.
You obviously have a very simple life. It is always embarrassing to talk to someone so simplistic, so ignorant. But as usual, being a con, being ignorant is no problem for you. Because you actually think you are smart. Funny, but completely typical.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

Now, amazon, try to pay attention. The ceo has a PR dept, and they do what they are hired to do. That would be (now pay attention) HANDLE PUBLIC RELATIONS, FOR THE VERY GUY THAT HIRED THEM FOR THAT PURPOSE, THE CEO. Jesus, you are ignorant.
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Actually all functions whether marketing, sales, PR, manufacturing, finance, HR, etc ultimately report to the CEO and make recommendations to him that he may approve or not. The CEO is the one responsible for everything fitting together in a manner consistent with his overall vision or strategy.

 

[Rshermr]

Now, amazon, try to pay attention. The ceo has a PR dept, and they do what they are hired to do. That would be (now pay attention) HANDLE PUBLIC RELATIONS, FOR THE VERY GUY THAT HIRED THEM FOR THAT PURPOSE, THE CEO. Jesus, you are ignorant.
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Actually all functions whether marketing, sales, PR, manufacturing, finance, HR, etc ultimately report to the CEO and make recommendations to him that he may approve or not. The CEO is the one responsible for everything fitting together in a manner consistent with his overall vision or strategy.

How profound, ed. Of course they do. Everyone in the staff of a corporation, all c level and lower folks, are responsible to the ceo. The ceo, of course, is responsible to the board. Which is what I have been saying.

 

[EdwardBaiamonte]

The ceo, of course, is responsible to the board. Which is what I have been saying.

did someone say the CEO was responsible to the Girl Scouts????

 

[Boss]

Funny stuff there, pinhead. Yes, I am so empty headed and filled with crap from others, I can't do anything but come here and post one 'copy-n-paste' after another from propagandists, and refuse to answer the simplest questions... oh wait... that's what YOU are doing! My bad!

American free market capitalism is responsible for creating more millionaires from poor people, than anything man has ever devised. Nothing else even comes close. You want to get rid of that so we can enjoy the death and destruction of society known in every Socialist "Utopia" ever created. No one can rationalize or reason with you, because you've filled your empty head with propaganda and believe every word of it.

Let the record show, you still have not answered my question about what a CEO does.

It's because you don't have the first clue. You just know they make a lot of money, and being the jealous little self-absorbed asswipe you are, think you are somehow entitled to the fruits of their labor. This stems from you being raised by the Dr. Spock generation, not getting your ass busted when it needed to be, not having to be responsible or do anything for yourself for most of your life, and growing up in a culture where you think the world owes you something, just for us having the pleasure of your wonderful presence.

Now let me give you a few harsh facts of life here... There is no Utopia, we'll never realize wealth equality, there will always be a 1% who control most of the wealth, the question is, will they be free market capitalists who can be taxed, monitored, regulated and scrutinized, or ruling class government agents who are not accountable to anyone. It can be people who know how to use wealth to create jobs, prosperity, and economic growth, or state cronies who have no clue, and don't really care, because their pockets are full!

CEOs are not paid by the taxpayers. Their incomes are paid from profits earned by a corporation. If the capitalists who hire them, want to pay them WHATEVER, it's not any of your goddamn business! The capitalists are not being forced to pay them against their will, they obviously find value in having a well-paid CEO running their corporation, and it's mighty ******* rich for you, a demonstrated abject moron when it comes to what a CEO does, to be interjecting your worthless idiot opinion.

Sorry, did not know you were so interested in what a ceo does. Because, again, it depends on who he is, his style, who his staff is, the size of his organization, and many other things. So, me poor con tool, suggest to me what the ceo is ceo of. What size and what industry and is he running a us company or a multinational corporation and where is his market. Or is that all to complex. Are you still trying to write your little guide for pre pubescent children of cons? Should we fill your little guide with little pictures to keep them interested???
Ceo's do not run companies by themselves, me boy. A lot of their time is spent working with their staff. In large corps, that means other c level folks. You know, the usual. CFO, CTO, and so on. So, he spends a whole lot of his time meeting with those folks. He probably has a COO. He is working with his board of directors. He is working directly, in conjunction with his sales management and large customers. And he is doing a lot of other things. But, me poor ignorant con, there IS NO TEMPLATE. His style may be to delegate much of the work to others, his management team. Or he may prefer to be involved directly.
So, Boss, since you are the expert on this subject, knock yourself out. You will be, as usual, full of shit. And it really makes NO DIFFERENCE what the ceo does. What matters, dipshit, is whether his corp is successful or whether it is not.

And yes, you are a tool. You are totally incapable of independent thought. Funny thing is you think you have something profound to say. That would be a result of being stupid. But not everyone is stupid, me poor con tool. Many out there actually think. Dipshit.

I'm probably one of the few people in this thread who has actually been a CEO, so I am very aware of what a CEO does. My point of posing this question to you directly, is to illustrate that you don't have a clue what is involved with being a CEO. As we see by your third attempt to gloss over you lack of knowledge. No, there isn't a template, but there are general responsibilities which are fairly universal and consistent. So far, you have hit on none of them, should I give you a fourth swing? Perhaps if you stopped talking like a pirate or Irishman, or whatever you think you're being, you can focus on the question?

And no, I am not going to answer the question for you, that would defeat the purpose of me asking you. I am not here to prove I am smarter than you, I am pointing out that you are uninformed and do not know what a CEO does. This is generally the case with people who believe CEOs are paid too much, or so I have found.

 

[Steelplate]

Bullshit. I dare you to prove your assertions. Union Activity in the private sector declined dramatically through the 80's, 90's, and 00's from their heyday in the 50's, 60's and 70's.

You do realize that America started running Trade Deficits in 1975 and effectively started running a negative Balance of Payments account since the early 1970's, correct?

Of course, it's just easier to say that all of your problems started during the decade of the term your most hated President was in office. Sure. Everything is always that simple.

A. why didn't they do something about that? They are called tariffs.

B. Well...now that we've fucked over a huge part of our workforce...that should have counterbalanced those trade deficits, right? Wrong. They are higher than ever because now American Companies are the ones bringing shit in from abroad. Our trade.deficit to China ALONE is getting closer to a Trillion dollars/ year. We charge goods coming in a 2.5% tariff....they charge us 25%.

The problems did start with trickle down.

Actually, Reagan never would have gotten into office if it wasn't for the oil embargo that OPEC laid on us....but hey...they were taught by the best...a fellow named John D. Rockefeller. He used to do the same thing domestically. He'd shut down refineries to drive the price up...until a competitor would show up....then he'd open up the flood gates, know his competition couldn't compete....then he'd buy his competitor...eventually...he controlled so much, all he had to do was lower the price near his competitor and raise it somewhere else.

 

[AmazonTania]

Neither of them??? You think there are two? There are many, and yes, they are responsible for carying out many of the ceo's responsibilities. That, you see, is why the ceo hires them. Jesus.

CEO's does not hire a staff to perform it's duties. The CEO hires a staff to preform their own specific delegated task. The CEO has his or her own task which the CEO can do as the director and leader of a corporation. That's how it works. Your opinions do no reflect the reality, but I guess if you've only collected a paycheck, they do. Only from the outside looking in is it simple.

Maybe if it is a really small corporation. But in general, some one in the staff would be hiring branch managers, ASSUMING the corporation has branches. Simpleton.

The CEO is responsible for hiring all branch managers, regardless of corporation size. Not the staff. Wrong.

Yup, with the input from his staff, and the approval of his bod. And, me poor simple con, I never suggested that he did not. Simpleton.

The CEO can seek input from the Janitor for all I care. The janitor doesn't set strategic goals for the CEO. You said that the CEO hires staff to handle these responsibilities. You are wrong again. No surprise.

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Wow. Not sure what to say to you. That is simply too stupid. The CEO is very involved in setting the budget. It is his overall responsibility. But you may want to look up the term CFO. For it will be he, and his staff, who overseas the yearly and quarterly and monthly budgets. Look up CFO. Simpleton.

The CFO is just responsible for assessing financial risk and oversees financial activities, not with the responsibility of overseeing the yearly budget. They are non related things. Wrong again. Stop throwing out terms if you are not going to take the time to research what it means. Wrong for a third time.

Look up Marketing Department. Google it. You will see that they handle PR, and the ceo may be involved depending on importance. JESUS you are a simpleton. Hell, within the marketing dept, or separately, any larger corporation will have a PUBLIC RELATIONS DEPARTMENT. Do you know how to use google?

Google is not a university as you will soon learn. Marketing and PR are two different things. No, the Marketing Department does not handle the PR. The CEO is responsible for coordinating the activities of Public Relations. Again, incorrect.

Well, the ceo staff either does or does not??? I assume you are saying the staff does not. Sorry. Look up COO. Then look up CFO again. And, maybe take your head out of your ass.

The CFO does not have anything to do with company resources, nor does it have anything to do with the corporations overall finances. It just assess financial risk. And the COO doesn't have anything to do with either the corporations resources, or finances. At this point, you are just trying hard to research anything in a desperate attempt to make a point.

ow, amazon, try to pay attention. The ceo has a PR dept, and they do what they are hired to do. That would be (now pay attention) HANDLE PUBLIC RELATIONS, FOR THE VERY GUY THAT HIRED THEM FOR THAT PURPOSE, THE CEO. Jesus, you are ignorant.

More ignorance. No surprise there.

Serves as the company spokesperson. In many, but not all, organizations the highest-ranking corporate officer plays a significant role acting as the company spokesperson. Journalists look to this individual for comments and insight because she personifies the company. Clearly, the CEO is not obligated to be the spokesperson. He or she can appoint someone to take on this responsibility, but typically journalists working on a corporate story will expect to have access to the CEO for comment.

Approves the Budget and Resources. Often a VP of Marketing or Corporate Communications, a Manager of PR, or Marcom Manager will have the responsibility for developing and proposing the scope of work and budget, but the CEO should be involved in reviewing and providing approval of the budget. The CEO should do this as he or she has a broad view of the organization’s situation from its projected revenue to the overall operating budget and can best see how PR fits into the bigger picture.

Evaluates ROI. In addition to approving resources and the budget for PR, the CEO should play a role in considering the overall effectiveness of the organization’s PR activities. He or she should consider top-level success metrics (e.g. share of voice) and consider how PR is impacting sales. Clearly, in some organizations it is often impossible to prove that PR plays a direct role in motivating someone to purchase, but there should be some hard evidence showing the positive impact that PR is having on his or her organization and brand.

Showcases Results. To build excitement about an organization’s activities, there is an opportunity for CEOs to showcase results from PR activities. For instance, the CEO might showcase a marquee editorial placement in a company meeting to build further staff enthusiasm for a particular initiative. When I joined Tegic Communications in January of 1998, we were a very small startup. Every month we had an all-employee meeting to discuss our progress toward company goals. PR was essential in helping us stay top-of-mind with our customers and our CEO Bob Hart, along with our VP of Sales and Marketing Don Davidge, did an excellent job of highlighting the editorial coverage the company was receiving. This was especially motivating to the engineers who otherwise might not have been aware of external reaction to their work. Other places that editorial coverage should be showcased include board meetings or even in some instances discussions with customers and partners.

The CEO?s Vital Role in Public Relations « Communiqué PR Blog

Wrong in over ten times a day. You're worse than a broken clock.

And yes indeed, as I said, the ceo does recommend the budget to the bod. Never said he did not. So, if you are saying I did say that, then you would be lying.

You claimed that a CEO's staff handles all of the CEO's task. I'll just take this as another example of you being wrong.

So, you must be a major ceo yourself. Care to try to explain where you got the drivel you posted. Jesus.

For me, I was educated. For you, I used google. I figured this should be good enough for you to understand. You would have done better if you would have actually stayed in school and learned something. Google will only get you so far. Well, at least it's free, but you get what you pay for.

What do CEOs do? A CEO Job Description. | Articles by Stever Robbins, Entrepreneurial Advisor

And if you are really not up for reading, here is a small dumbed down version for you.

Roles And Responsibilities Of Ceo

So, in general, everything you just said is pretty much completely wrong.
You obviously have a very simple life. It is always embarrassing to talk to someone so simplistic, so ignorant. But as usual, being a con, being ignorant is no problem for you. Because you actually think you are smart. Funny, but completely typical.

You think you're smart because you've learned a think or two about Google. That doesn't substitute any coherent thinking. You need to educate yourself if you plan on holding your own in an financial discussion with me.

 

[itfitzme]

"For me, I was educated"

Ph.D in literature?

 

[Boss]

He used to do the same thing domestically.

Keywords there... USED TO! We also USED TO have slaves to pick cotton in the fields, is that the source of all our problems too? Is that why we need to destroy free market capitalism and install Marxist Socialism?

You keep trying to paint this picture using things from the past that we've addressed and corrected, or pointing to the disastrous results of your own failed ideas, or throwing up examples of criminal activity which we have punished people for. Then you bring up Reagan, Bush, Iraq... whatever you can, to muddy the water and stir emotions. Your Marxist policies destroyed our manufacturing sector and drove all the good paying jobs overseas, and you believe the "solution" is MORE Marxist policies. In fact, I am being "nice" in saying "Marxist" because what you seem to actually be indicating is more akin to Maoist policy, which was even WORSE!

What America NEEDS to do, is stop listening to brainwashed idiots, and start rebuilding free market capitalism. Stop attacking people of wealth as if they are the enemy, because they are the only ones capable of bringing about economic recovery. They're going to have to make a profit to do so, and that is just a fact of life you'll have to be envious of, because unless it happens, the capitalists have no interest. What you ignorantly think you can do, is force capitalists to be non-capitalistic.

 

[AmazonTania]

A. why didn't they do something about that? They are called tariffs.

Trade deficits are generally self correcting. You need to be more competitive in order to keep your currency strong, because exporting creates an international demand for your currency. Tariffs doesn't correct trade deficits. Exporting more corrects trade deficits. There isn't a single country on earth today that has a high tariff rate and is running a trade surplus. These countries do have plenty of market forces which encourages their domestic manufacturers to produce in their country, rather than shipping those manufacturing jobs elsewhere.

B. Well...now that we've fucked over a huge part of our workforce...that should have counterbalanced those trade deficits, right? Wrong. They are higher than ever because now American Companies are the ones bringing shit in from abroad.

If only you had some sort of market incentives so they would create 'shit' home. But I guess that makes too much sense for anyone to want to pursue.

Our trade.deficit to China ALONE is getting closer to a Trillion dollars/ year. We charge goods coming in a 2.5% tariff....they charge us 25%.

What? Your trade deficit with the entire world is not even getting closer to a Trillion dollars. I'm not really sure you know what a trade deficit is at this point.

For your information, your trade deficit with China runs an average of about $250 billion a year. Almost one half of your entire trade deficit for 2012, but who is counting?

And another thing, China has no tariffs at all. Zero. So yeah, you most likely made that 25% tariff rate up...

The problems did start with trickle down.

You do realise that trickle-down doesn't exist, correct? No economist nor politician has ever advocated for it.

Actually, Reagan never would have gotten into office if it wasn't for the oil embargo that OPEC laid on us....but hey...they were taught by the best...a fellow named John D. Rockefeller. He used to do the same thing domestically. He'd shut down refineries to drive the price up...until a competitor would show up....then he'd open up the flood gates, know his competition couldn't compete....then he'd buy his competitor...eventually...he controlled so much, all he had to do was lower the price near his competitor and raise it somewhere else.

Yeah, that's generally how competition in the marketplace works. Works great for the consumer. Not so great for the business, as they have to work vigorously hard to compete with one another.

For your information, John D. Rockefeller made his fortunes not by making oil out of reach and expensive for consumers, but making it cheap and available for the common man. Same thing Sam Walton and Henry Ford did. As they have learned, there is no demographic in selling things to only wealthy people.

If your business history is anything like your economic understanding, then your post are indeed questionable.

 

[Steelplate]

A. why didn't they do something about that? They are called tariffs.

Tariffs don't fix trade deficits. There isn't a single country on earth today that has a high tariff rate and is running a trade surplus.

B. Well...now that we've fucked over a huge part of our workforce...that should have counterbalanced those trade deficits, right? Wrong. They are higher than ever because now American Companies are the ones bringing shit in from abroad.

If only you had some sort of market incentives so they would create 'shit' home. But I guess that makes too much sense for anyone to want to pursue.



What? Your trade deficit with the entire world is not even getting closer to a Trillion dollars. I'm not really sure you know what a trade deficit is at this point.

For your information, your trade deficit with China runs an average of about $250 billion a year. Almost one half of your entire trade deficit for 2012, but who is counting?

And another thing, China has no tariffs at all. Zero. So yeah, you most likely made that 25% tariff rate up...

The problems did start with trickle down.

You do realise that trickle-down doesn't exist, correct? No economist nor politician has ever advocated for it.

Actually, Reagan never would have gotten into office if it wasn't for the oil embargo that OPEC laid on us....but hey...they were taught by the best...a fellow named John D. Rockefeller. He used to do the same thing domestically. He'd shut down refineries to drive the price up...until a competitor would show up....then he'd open up the flood gates, know his competition couldn't compete....then he'd buy his competitor...eventually...he controlled so much, all he had to do was lower the price near his competitor and raise it somewhere else.

Yeah, that's generally how competition in the marketplace works. Works great for the consumer. Not so great for the business, as they have to work vigorously hard to compete with one another.

For your information, John D. Rockefeller made his fortunes not by making oil out of reach and expensive for consumers, but making it cheap and available for the common man. Same thing Sam Walton and Henry Ford did. As they have learned, there is no demographic in selling things to only wealthy people.

If your business history is anything like your economic understanding, then your post are indeed questionable.

Ok....first off...Google is your ******* friend....

http://www.google.com/webhp?client=...029,d.dmg&fp=10dc1802c264a522&biw=600&bih=877

The rest? Forget it....I'm tired beating my head against the wall trying to get "true believers" who get their info from the right wing.propaganda machine to see anything beyond what they've been told.

I'll tell you what...if you want to know where I get most of my ideology from....buy Dylan Ratigan's book..."Greedy Bastards". For $10-15, you can get an insight on my thought process and you might learn.something yourself.

 

[Rshermr]

Funny stuff there, pinhead. Yes, I am so empty headed and filled with crap from others, I can't do anything but come here and post one 'copy-n-paste' after another from propagandists, and refuse to answer the simplest questions... oh wait... that's what YOU are doing! My bad!

American free market capitalism is responsible for creating more millionaires from poor people, than anything man has ever devised. Nothing else even comes close. You want to get rid of that so we can enjoy the death and destruction of society known in every Socialist "Utopia" ever created. No one can rationalize or reason with you, because you've filled your empty head with propaganda and believe every word of it.

Let the record show, you still have not answered my question about what a CEO does.

It's because you don't have the first clue. You just know they make a lot of money, and being the jealous little self-absorbed asswipe you are, think you are somehow entitled to the fruits of their labor. This stems from you being raised by the Dr. Spock generation, not getting your ass busted when it needed to be, not having to be responsible or do anything for yourself for most of your life, and growing up in a culture where you think the world owes you something, just for us having the pleasure of your wonderful presence.

Now let me give you a few harsh facts of life here... There is no Utopia, we'll never realize wealth equality, there will always be a 1% who control most of the wealth, the question is, will they be free market capitalists who can be taxed, monitored, regulated and scrutinized, or ruling class government agents who are not accountable to anyone. It can be people who know how to use wealth to create jobs, prosperity, and economic growth, or state cronies who have no clue, and don't really care, because their pockets are full!

CEOs are not paid by the taxpayers. Their incomes are paid from profits earned by a corporation. If the capitalists who hire them, want to pay them WHATEVER, it's not any of your goddamn business! The capitalists are not being forced to pay them against their will, they obviously find value in having a well-paid CEO running their corporation, and it's mighty ******* rich for you, a demonstrated abject moron when it comes to what a CEO does, to be interjecting your worthless idiot opinion.

Sorry, did not know you were so interested in what a ceo does. Because, again, it depends on who he is, his style, who his staff is, the size of his organization, and many other things. So, me poor con tool, suggest to me what the ceo is ceo of. What size and what industry and is he running a us company or a multinational corporation and where is his market. Or is that all to complex. Are you still trying to write your little guide for pre pubescent children of cons? Should we fill your little guide with little pictures to keep them interested???
Ceo's do not run companies by themselves, me boy. A lot of their time is spent working with their staff. In large corps, that means other c level folks. You know, the usual. CFO, CTO, and so on. So, he spends a whole lot of his time meeting with those folks. He probably has a COO. He is working with his board of directors. He is working directly, in conjunction with his sales management and large customers. And he is doing a lot of other things. But, me poor ignorant con, there IS NO TEMPLATE. His style may be to delegate much of the work to others, his management team. Or he may prefer to be involved directly.
So, Boss, since you are the expert on this subject, knock yourself out. You will be, as usual, full of shit. And it really makes NO DIFFERENCE what the ceo does. What matters, dipshit, is whether his corp is successful or whether it is not.

And yes, you are a tool. You are totally incapable of independent thought. Funny thing is you think you have something profound to say. That would be a result of being stupid. But not everyone is stupid, me poor con tool. Many out there actually think. Dipshit.

I'm probably one of the few people in this thread who has actually been a CEO, so I am very aware of what a CEO does. My point of posing this question to you directly, is to illustrate that you don't have a clue what is involved with being a CEO. As we see by your third attempt to gloss over you lack of knowledge. No, there isn't a template, but there are general responsibilities which are fairly universal and consistent. So far, you have hit on none of them, should I give you a fourth swing? Perhaps if you stopped talking like a pirate or Irishman, or whatever you think you're being, you can focus on the question?

And no, I am not going to answer the question for you, that would defeat the purpose of me asking you. I am not here to prove I am smarter than you, I am pointing out that you are uninformed and do not know what a CEO does. This is generally the case with people who believe CEOs are paid too much, or so I have found.

Well, Boss, here is a news flash. I could not care less about answering any question you may pose. And I know plenty of ceo's, so what were you ceo of? GM? GE? Some 20 employee company? You are a bullshitter. If you are telling anyone that a ceo has a set of duties that are the same regardless, you have just proven your ignorance. And if you are suggesting that the ceo of Boeing has the same set of tasks as the ceo of some local small organization, good for you. Is there a point there, dipshit??
I understand, dipshit, that a ceo of a large organization is valuable. If that is your point, it is not profound. But that he deserves to make what he makes is hardly proven by the fact that he works hard.
Pirate?? Irishman??? I thought I was a marxist. Jesus. Are you just out of jr high?? Irishman?? Pirate??? CEO??? Sure, dipshit. Sure.

Funny. Cons are generally ignorant. But they always think they are very smart. Dipshit.

 

[MikeK]

I'm probably one of the few people in this thread who has actually been a CEO, so I am very aware of what a CEO does. My point of posing this question to you directly, is to illustrate that you don't have a clue what is involved with being a CEO. As we see by your third attempt to gloss over you lack of knowledge. No, there isn't a template, but there are general responsibilities which are fairly universal and consistent. So far, you have hit on none of them, should I give you a fourth swing? Perhaps if you stopped talking like a pirate or Irishman, or whatever you think you're being, you can focus on the question?

And no, I am not going to answer the question for you, that would defeat the purpose of me asking you. I am not here to prove I am smarter than you, I am pointing out that you are uninformed and do not know what a CEO does. This is generally the case with people who believe CEOs are paid too much, or so I have found.

That is rather like asking what a bus driver does.

Essentially, the CEO of a for-profit organization does what must be done to promote optimal profitability. The way he/she goes about doing that depends on the corporate structure, the operating characteristics, and the marketing requirements of the organization he/she presides over.

You say you were a CEO. Tell us more. What sort of a corporation were you in charge of. And what did you do?

To establish tit-for-tat, I was a civil servant. I could not have been a CEO because I harbored no such ambition nor is my personal makeup adaptable to such a role.