Our country is facing a Free Speech crisis.

[Luckyone]

Here is Trump just yesterday saying that 97% of the media is against him and since they all need licenses to stay open, their licenses should be revoked. In addition, it is not just the media he is trying to shut down. It is every company, institution and Federal departments that oppose him.

What is even worse is that a large number of all Republicans support him on this issue!



This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important and that being loyal to one man (Trump - no matter what he does), is now a requirement to stay in business, or even for an individual person to stay out of harm's way, simply by voicing his mind and his concerns.

 

[shockedcanadian]

Here is Trump just yesterday saying that 97% of the media is against him and since they all need licenses to stay open, their licenses should be revoked. In addition, it is not just the media he is trying to shut down. It is every company, institution and Federal departments that oppose him.

What is even worse is that a large number of all Republicans support him on this issue!



This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important and that being loyal to one man (Trump - no matter what he does), is now a requirement to stay in business, or even for an individual person to stay out of harm's way, simply by voicing his mind and his concerns.

If Trump or his team peruse this site I would strongly advise them to not go down any such road. Based on YT and Twitter responses from conservative voters, it would cost them big time in the midterms and beyond.

Conservatives believe in the 1st Amendment and when Conservatives become Neo-Con they lose power for a long time.

 

[LordBrownTrout]

Repost from earlier to a Mac thread:

Lol, where was Luckyone and the boys when obama and biden were weaponizing depts and spying on their opposition, trying to incarcerate people for sending out Hillary memes, dictating to social media to squash any speech that contradicted the CDC message about the deadly and injurious mRNA injections. But now they're wringing their hands in consternation. Sorry, your tears fall on deaf ears. Pound sand.

 

[Dorian Mode]

If Trump or his team peruse this site I would strongly advise them to not go down any such road. Based on YT and Twitter responses from conservative voters, it would cost them big time in the midterms and beyond.

Conservatives believe in the 1st Amendment and when Conservatives become Neo-Con they lose power for a long time.

I really doubt Trump would ever risk everything he has accomplished so far on doing something that pisses off the GOP base. The GOP is nowhere near as loyal as the democrap base, and he knows it. But, the MSM is still very biased and misrepresents the truth often to paint Trump and the GOP as the bad guys. I think these threats are just another bargaining chip to force the news media to return to proper journalism instead of pure political activism for the democrap party. And I think it is the best thing that can happen to the country, because there is nothing scarier than the entire media colluding with just one political party against the other. An unbiased media is essential for avoiding government overreach.

 

[Darkwind]

Strange

Every outlet in America is still speaking its mind.

I guess we don't have a free speech crisis after all.

 

[NetJedi]

If Trump or his team peruse this site I would strongly advise them to not go down any such road. Based on YT and Twitter responses from conservative voters, it would cost them big time in the midterms and beyond.

Conservatives believe in the 1st Amendment and when Conservatives become Neo-Con they lose power for a long time.

It's not a first amendment question; it's a grant of federal licensure question. The general terms of broadcast licensure are that the licensees must serve the public interest. The question is, are those currently holding licenses serving the public interest?

In the case of the 3 major networks and some but not all of their affiliates, evidence suggests they've essentially become nothing more than propaganda arms for one political party and not just because of what they broadcast but also because of what they refuse to broadcast, namely points of view which deviate from the networks preferred narratives (aka "news distortion"), which have essentially been barred from booking on large swaths of the 3 major networks (aka denial of "reasonable access").

The first amendment does not protect a corporation's right to a broadcast license (the FCC however cannot dictate specific programming only apply restraints on content (e.g. no porn)), not to mention there are plenty of media outlet formats that do not require one (cable, satellite and Internet) which, in aggregate, are far larger in audience size than the broadcast networks.

If ABC, CBS and NBC don't like the constraints set forth by the license agreements they signed, they are free to go cable, satellite, Internet only or some combination of the three and then they can broadcast or not broadcast whatever opinion disguised as "journalism" they want free from licensure attachments (just like Fox News, CNN and MSwhateverTheHell do).

Personally, I think this will turn out to be moot in the not too distant future as broadcast networks make less and less economic sense in the face of consumer migration to other delivery modes, so just let the major broadcast networks continue to commit suicide and call it a day.

 

[Nostra]

Here is Trump just yesterday saying that 97% of the media is against him and since they all need licenses to stay open, their licenses should be revoked. In addition, it is not just the media he is trying to shut down. It is every company, institution and Federal departments that oppose him.

What is even worse is that a large number of all Republicans support him on this issue!



This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important and that being loyal to one man (Trump - no matter what he does), is now a requirement to stay in business, or even for an individual person to stay out of harm's way, simply by voicing his mind and his concerns.

Kimmel can still spew his lies all he wants, Dumbass.

THREAD FAIL!

 

[Luckyone]

It's not a first amendment question; it's a grant of federal licensure question. The general terms of broadcast licensure are that the licensees must serve the public interest. The question is, are those currently holding licenses serving the public interest?

In the case of the 3 major networks and some but not all of their affiliates, evidence suggests they've essentially become nothing more than propaganda arms for one political party and not just because of what they broadcast but also because of what they refuse to broadcast, namely points of view which deviate from the networks preferred narratives (aka "news distortion"), which have essentially been barred from booking on large swaths of the 3 major networks (aka denial of "reasonable access").

The first amendment does not protect a corporation's right to a broadcast license (the FCC however cannot dictate specific programming only apply restraints on content (e.g. no porn)), not to mention there are plenty of media outlet formats that do not require one (cable, satellite and Internet) which, in aggregate, are far larger in audience size than the broadcast networks.

If ABC, CBS and NBC don't like the constraints set forth by the license agreements they signed, they are free to go cable, satellite, Internet only or some combination of the three and then they can broadcast or not broadcast whatever opinion disguised as "journalism" they want free from licensure attachments (just like Fox News, CNN and MSwhateverTheHell do).

Personally, I think this will turn out to be moot in the not too distant future as broadcast networks make less and less economic sense in the face of consumer migration to other delivery modes, so just let the major broadcast networks continue to commit suicide and call it a day.

One question for you based on your response:

"WHO decides whether it is in the public interest or not? Trump?"

I personally believe that Steven Colbert and more so, Jon Stewart serve the public interest well. They bring up the issues that are facing the country and do it in a humorous way that drives it deeper and more understandable for the public.

Trump already got rid of Colbert and is targeting Stewart.

In addition, and forgetting comedians and the media, he already got rid of the Department of Education and USAID, both of which served the public interest. So where does that leave your argument?

 

[Darkwind]

It's not a first amendment question; it's a grant of federal licensure question. The general terms of broadcast licensure are that the licensees must serve the public interest. The question is, are those currently holding licenses serving the public interest?

In the case of the 3 major networks and some but not all of their affiliates, evidence suggests they've essentially become nothing more than propaganda arms for one political party and not just because of what they broadcast but also because of what they refuse to broadcast, namely points of view which deviate from the networks preferred narratives (aka "news distortion"), which have essentially been barred from booking on large swaths of the 3 major networks (aka denial of "reasonable access").

The first amendment does not protect a corporation's right to a broadcast license (the FCC however cannot dictate specific programming only apply restraints on content (e.g. no porn)), not to mention there are plenty of media outlet formats that do not require one (cable, satellite and Internet) which, in aggregate, are far larger in audience size than the broadcast networks.

If ABC, CBS and NBC don't like the constraints set forth by the license agreements they signed, they are free to go cable, satellite, Internet only or some combination of the three and then they can broadcast or not broadcast whatever opinion disguised as "journalism" they want free from licensure attachments (just like Fox News, CNN and MSwhateverTheHell do).

Personally, I think this will turn out to be moot in the not too distant future as broadcast networks make less and less economic sense in the face of consumer migration to other delivery modes, so just let the major broadcast networks continue to commit suicide and call it a day.

Spot on.

However, I don't see them walking away from public broadcasting, as the audience numbers for free TV are massive and cable cannot compete against that. So, I think they just need go get back inside the boundaries of the License they hold and then keep on keeping on, as long as they air ALL viewpoints.

 

[Darkwind]

One question for you based on your response:

"WHO decides whether it is in the public interest or not? Trump?"

I personally believe that Steven Colbert and more so, Jon Stewart serve the public interest well. They bring up the issues that are facing the country and do it in a humorous way that drives it deeper and more understandable for the public.

Trump already got rid of Colbert and is targeting Stewart.

In addition, and forgetting comedians and the media, he already got rid of the Department of Education and USAID, both of which served the public interest. So where does that leave your argument?

The DOE, since its implementation, has presided over the worst education system this country has ever seen.

To make a claim it was in the public interest is laughable at a minimum.

The PUBLIC interest is determined by the law and the FCC.

 

[Dorian Mode]

One question for you based on your response:

"WHO decides whether it is in the public interest or not? Trump?"

I personally believe that Steven Colbert and more so, Jon Stewart serve the public interest well. They bring up the issues that are facing the country and do it in a humorous way that drives it deeper and more understandable for the public.

Trump already got rid of Colbert and is targeting Stewart.

In addition, and forgetting comedians and the media, he already got rid of the Department of Education and USAID, both of which served the public interest. So where does that leave your argument?

Elections have consequences.
Barack Hussein Obama

 

[otto105]

Here is Trump just yesterday saying that 97% of the media is against him and since they all need licenses to stay open, their licenses should be revoked. In addition, it is not just the media he is trying to shut down. It is every company, institution and Federal departments that oppose him.

What is even worse is that a large number of all Republicans support him on this issue!



This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important and that being loyal to one man (Trump - no matter what he does), is now a requirement to stay in business, or even for an individual person to stay out of harm's way, simply by voicing his mind and his concerns.

king Shitler! must have his why or he will cry and flob on the floor.

 

[Mac1958]

This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important

They think they're at war. They'll pick up the pieces later. The rest is just collateral damage.

 

[otto105]

Elections have consequences.
Barack Hussein Obama

Yup, see J6.

The biggest white man's whiner riot on record.

 

[Chuz Life]

Here is Trump just yesterday saying that 97% of the media is against him and since they all need licenses to stay open, their licenses should be revoked. In addition, it is not just the media he is trying to shut down. It is every company, institution and Federal departments that oppose him.

What is even worse is that a large number of all Republicans support him on this issue!



This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important and that being loyal to one man (Trump - no matter what he does), is now a requirement to stay in business, or even for an individual person to stay out of harm's way, simply by voicing his mind and his concerns.

I think your concern for Trump's free speech rights are misplaced.

 

[Luckyone]

I think your concern for Trump's free speech rights are misplaced.

Then make your debate point.

There is a LOT of proof against your idea

 

[otto105]

I think your concern for Trump's free speech rights are misplaced.

 

[Luckyone]

king Shitler! must have his why or he will cry and flob on the floor.

Don't treat him so harshly. He will cry at first (his feelings hurt) and then come after you for revenge.

He is a little boy that simply needs your understanding (before you treat him with bug spray).

 

[Seymour Flops]

Here is Trump just yesterday saying that 97% of the media is against him and since they all need licenses to stay open, their licenses should be revoked. In addition, it is not just the media he is trying to shut down. It is every company, institution and Federal departments that oppose him.

What is even worse is that a large number of all Republicans support him on this issue!



This all suggests that Freedom of Speech is no longer important and that being loyal to one man (Trump - no matter what he does), is now a requirement to stay in business, or even for an individual person to stay out of harm's way, simply by voicing his mind and his concerns.

Really weird that a guy whose sole mission in life is to rant against the sitting president on a public forum on which nobody stops him from being as repetitive and deranged as he chooses to express concern about a free speech "crisis."

 

[Luckyone]

The DOE, since its implementation, has presided over the worst education system this country has ever seen.

To make a claim it was in the public interest is laughable at a minimum.

The PUBLIC interest is determined by the law and the FCC.

Prove it then. You make big statements and say it is determined by the law and the FCC but then again, that is Trump's OPINION.

Here is the reality (according to AI)

AI Overview

It is a subjective and politically charged question whether the U.S. Department of Education (DOE) is the "worst ever," and there is no broad consensus on the matter. Critics point to stagnant student performance and rising costs as evidence of its failure, while supporters emphasize its role in protecting civil rights and providing financial aid.